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3751
« on: October 03, 2015, 02:18:48 AM »
Well. Dad was non-existent for about 19 years. And mom was slightly less non-existent for 22 years.
I'm slightly biased towards mom.
3752
« on: October 03, 2015, 02:06:48 AM »
Blue team is bae. Can't properly say how good it feels to finally see them in the flesh, so to speak. They ain't just obscure parts of the lore backstory now. They're Chief's bros to the close.
3753
« on: October 03, 2015, 02:00:57 AM »
I call bullshit
Yeah but you always call bullshit. It's your trademark.
3754
« on: October 03, 2015, 01:59:44 AM »
I don't feel like going to sleep tonight.
3755
« on: October 03, 2015, 01:58:31 AM »
Watch in awe and terror as I devour a salad to make up for my like of vitamins.
3756
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:55:21 PM »
 Standard take no shit kind of lady who can hold her own but has just the tiniest sliver of a heart left.
3757
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:51:35 PM »
dispose of yourself you liberal cum guzzler
I'm canadian. Our libertards and consirvicunts are different from yours.
3758
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:46:43 PM »
Fix your Username
Nope. I'm going to be casual scum and jump on the festive bandwagon gimmick. MFW YOU CANNOT STOP ME. 
3759
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:34:30 PM »
How do ya like mine?
I figure it's time I jumped on the festive bandwagon and got spooky.
3760
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:14:20 PM »
You're too dramatic.
Tell that to my father who's had a kidney removed. "Functioning alcoholic" he said. And no, I'm not being dramatic. You're just interpreting what I'm saying as dramatic so that you can shrug it off as an excuse to say that drinking at a young age is fine and dandy and that being a functioning alcoholic is actually some magical condition where alcohol no longer affects you and that you can pull a successful life out of your fucking ass because of it. When the simple, biological reality is this. You drink at a young age, chances are you're fucked if you don't stop. Most people, but not all of them, are likely screwed. A functioning alcoholic isn't some magically okay person because they don't show when they're intoxicated, nor does having a remotely successful life give them an excuse to keep drinking when they could have just as easily done things on their own without drinking in the first place. I'm not gonna go around and lecture people who drink. But I'm not gonna sit down and say that it's okay either because it's not. That's a fact. I've told you my personal experiences, I've shown you multiple studies as to why it's not.
3761
« on: October 02, 2015, 09:57:47 PM »
Drinking alcohol is not an inherently bad act. There's this thing called a functional alcoholic, you know.
Which is literally just a symptom of having been drinking for so long that their body actually needs alcohol to function properly. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually comes from BIG FUCKING SPOILER ALERT: Kids drinking at a young age.
I want you to think of the logic behind this Class.
A human being is born without having ever been exposed to alcohol.
And they need alcohol to function better. Does that make any fucking shred of sense?
Because that's an excuse people use to validate their condition at that point when they don't realize that their body is so dependent on alcohol that it can no longer function properly without it. That's like the last damn stage of heavy addiction. Because if they tried to quit at that point it would hurt them or kill them.
My point was that even people addicted to alcohol can be successful, which you really can't deny. And further than that, drinking alcohol occasionally doesn't neccesitate getting addicted to it, anyway.
Except that you can be successful without having to get addicted to alcohol in the first place. Here. Have some more stats about how being a functional alcoholic is "okay." Spoiler A high-functioning alcoholic (HFA) is an alcoholic who is able to maintain their outside life such as jobs, academics, relationships, etc. – all while drinking alcoholically.
Numbers from the Harvard School of Public Health show that 31 percent of college students show signs of alcohol abuse and 6 percent are dependent on alcohol. Thus, about 37 percent of college students may meet the new criteria for alcoholism defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Doctors hope that the new definition will help identify severe cases of alcoholism early, rather than when the problem is fully developed.
Many HFAs are not viewed by society as alcoholics because they do not fit the common alcoholic stereotype. Unlike the stereotypical alcoholic, HFAs have either succeeded or over-achieved through their lifetimes. This can lead to denial of alcoholism by the HFA, co-workers, family members, and friends. Functional alcoholics account for 19.5 percent of total U.S. alcoholics, with 50 percent being smokers and 33 percent having a multigenerational family history of alcoholism. Spoiler The functional alcoholic consumes as much alcohol as any "full-blown" alcoholic, they just don't exhibit the outward symptoms of intoxication. This is because they have developed a tolerance for alcohol to the point that it takes more for them to feel the effects (including hangovers).
Consequently, they must drink increasingly larger amounts to get the same "buzz" they want.
This slow build-up of alcohol tolerance means the functional alcoholic is drinking at dangerous levels that can result in alcohol-related organ damage, cognitive impairment and alcohol dependence. Chronic heavy drinkers can display a functional tolerance to the point they show few obvious signs of intoxication even at high blood alcohol concentrations, which in others would be incapacitating. Functional alcoholic isn't a good thing class. It was never a term intended to be good. It's actually probably the stage of no return.
3762
« on: October 02, 2015, 09:36:31 PM »
Drinking alcohol is not an inherently bad act. There's this thing called a functional alcoholic, you know.
Which is literally just a symptom of having been drinking for so long that their body actually needs alcohol to function properly. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually comes from BIG FUCKING SPOILER ALERT: Kids drinking at a young age. I want you to think of the logic behind this Class. A human being is born without having ever been exposed to alcohol. And they need alcohol to function better. Does that make any fucking shred of sense? Because that's an excuse people use to validate their condition at that point when they don't realize that their body is so dependent on alcohol that it can no longer function properly without it. That's like the last damn stage of heavy addiction. Because if they tried to quit at that point it would hurt them or kill them.
3763
« on: October 02, 2015, 09:32:52 PM »
FUCKING SMELTER HAMMER PLS.
Why not Smough's hammer?
I forgot about that one. I was going to say smelter hammer because it just looks like an enormous shit. But smough's hammer? You could use it as a coffee table.
3764
« on: October 02, 2015, 09:29:25 PM »
the entire world is weak
I'd back that up. People are most often lazy sacks of potatoes. You want some proof of that class? Take a look at the percentage of fat people in the world. People too uncaring or lazy to take care of themselves who then drag down others down with them. Murderers? Rapists? Some of them are people who had a choice before they committed the crime. And they picked the shit way to do things. How about unplanned parenthood? People who had the option the have safe sex but didn't. Fucking hell, half the time somebody gets killed or injured it was because they could have done something so simple to prevent it, but they didn't. People are still largely attached to being completely non-sensical and stupid about things. Verb is right on this one. Look at our history of bullshit. Look at today. We always have the choices to make to go somewhere else and do something better, and yet, nobody ever takes them because it's the difficult road.
3765
« on: October 02, 2015, 09:18:07 PM »
Well, that's kind of implied. No one drinking alcohol wants you to stop them from doing so or give them a lecture, though. That's obviously very different from just asking how someone's day is.
Not at all. There's some days that I feel so miserable, when somebody asks me how my day is going, I'd honestly prefer to look them square in the eyes and tell them to fuck off. And I'm sure it could be applied to other people too. Some days, people don't want to talk. You see what I mean? Your premise of mind your own business is flawed and....utterly loose. It has no concrete bearing or point because it can literally be applied to anything to the point that it becomes ridiculous. And people step over other people's business all the fucking time. The only real merit that "mind your own business" has is in personal value and views. Which vary for every single person. In your view, having a short talk to those kids is breaking the rule. In most other people's eyes here, it's not. Factually, both of you are right. But one group would be wrong if the kids said they didn't want to hear what one group had to say. But even then, that's disputable, because sometimes you do things against people's will at the time which can save them or help them greatly.
3766
« on: October 02, 2015, 09:06:12 PM »
Maybe not you specifically, then, but this whole thread is a testament to people interfering where they have no place. I'm allowed to tell you it's bad, just as you're allowed to interfere if you choose, but that doesn't disallow me to say it. I think understanding your place is a sign of a wise person.
What place, exactly? Because there's no solid base to go off of because every single person has a different concept and limit to how far mind your own business extends. Do you know when it really becomes mind your own business? When the opposite party states it. When they don't want to hear what you have to say. The concept of "mind your own business" is based on consent alone. If you came up to me one day, and asked me, "Hey, how's it going?" that would be a violation of mind your own business wouldn't it? You're inserting yourself into my day and my business. Except, that, it's not a violation of it. Because most people will say hello back and start talking. So actually, yes. The people here are right. But to a degree. One chance. If Ender went up those kids and starting talking to them about alcohol and all the shit it'll do to them if they keep up, at that point, the kids have two choices. To not listen, or to listen. If they pick no, Ender continuing on would be pressing past mind her own business. There's no right or wrong in mind your own business. Just consent. People choose when to make things their business. And other people choose when to disregard them. After that, pushing past is a mistake.
3767
« on: October 02, 2015, 08:48:50 PM »
Whatever. I did everything you're saying and I turned out fine. Had plenty of friends who did, too. You can post statistics all you want, but don't try to say this is an undoubtable constant for everyone.
Once again. I never said that it was an absolute constant. Believe me. I know that human beings defy the odds wherever they can.
But do you know what those reports say? Listen closely.
The majority of people who expose themselves to drugs at a young age are fucked. Just because you exist in a minority, doesn't make you right, Class. And just because you exist in a minority, doesn't mean that your personal experience is going to work when applied to other people.
Which therefore means that it's not a green light for young kids to go up and start doing drugs. You understand that? One lucky person's break doesn't settle it.
I never said young kids should have a green light, I just said it's not your business to interfere.
And I never said that I did interfere. What I did say, was that they were fucked at that point, and that there would be no point in interfering anyway because that's a train wreck you can't stop. To which you said that they weren't fucked. All those consensus reports and findings I just gave you? There's your proof beyond my personal experience and mere "geographical occurrence." I told you. I don't interfere with people. No point. And second. What I told you earlier. You can preach whether its right or wrong to interfere all you want. But the fact is, what you say means nothing because people walk over laws and rules. What you're telling me right now, would be the equivalent of somebody telling a rapist to stop raping them. Laws and rules only apply to when a person abides by them. If I choose to go around preaching to kids about alcohol and all that fun stuff, which therefore makes it a violation of personal business, then by that definition, you telling me to mind my own business is a contradiction to your own belief system. "Mind your own" business is a load of tripe. It only extends to how far a person is willing to let it, which makes it a variable degree, and not a constant or consistent law.
3768
« on: October 02, 2015, 08:37:35 PM »
Whatever. I did everything you're saying and I turned out fine. Had plenty of friends who did, too. You can post statistics all you want, but don't try to say this is an undoubtable constant for everyone.
Once again. I never said that it was an absolute constant. Believe me. I know that human beings defy the odds wherever they can. But do you know what those reports say? Listen closely. The majority of people who expose themselves to drugs at a young age are fucked. Just because you exist in a minority, doesn't make you right, Class. And just because you exist in a minority, doesn't mean that your personal experience is going to work when applied to other people. Which therefore means that it's not a green light for young kids to go up and start doing drugs. You understand that? One lucky person's break doesn't settle it.
3769
« on: October 02, 2015, 08:29:45 PM »
I'm perfectly happy with the choices I've made. Any discontent with myself is about things that are beyond my control.
Personally, I don't think so. But I'll take your word for it on it.
Do you honestly think that having the time of my life when I was a teenager has made me unhappy? You could at least argue for less intelligent, but I have an academic record to refute that. Like I said, anything I dislike about myself isn't anything that I can change, much less that would be changed by not drinking when I was younger.
You can talk from your personal experiences, but they're just that. You have no real argument here, just a geographical observation.
I'm not going to dig into the whole personal graveyard here because I'd probably end up coming off as insulting without meaning to, which I don't particularily want to dig myself into nor do. Also. "Geographical observation." http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/jul2006/niaaa-03.htmhttp://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/underage-drinking.htmhttp://alcoholnews.org/Underage%20drinking.htmlhttp://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/pubhealth/init_report/yhd.htmlhttp://www.camy.org/resources/fact-sheets/consequences-of-underage-drinking-surgeon-general/http://www.toosmarttostart.samhsa.gov/families/facts/statistics.aspxhttp://www.dartmouth.edu/~dcare/pdfs/Jernigan.pdfOh but please. Yes, do continue to tell me that people who start doing drugs and alcohol from an early age aren't fucked in some shape or form. If you don't feel like skimming or reading any of those, then allow me to sum it up. Every single one of those reports says that based on the data of their research pools, The earlier young people start to drink, the worse the alcohol-related consequences: Alcohol dependence Traffic crashes Physical violence after drinking Other unintentional injuries after drinking (e.g. drowning, falls) Potential damage to still-developing adolescent brain Lower chances of success in school "Geographical observation" you say? Sources from Canada, the US, and even one in there as a world consensus.
3770
« on: October 02, 2015, 08:10:24 PM »
I'm perfectly happy with the choices I've made. Any discontent with myself is about things that are beyond my control.
Personally, I don't think so. But I'll take your word for it on it. As for me? I've watched that shit play out over and over. The younger the kid is, and the earlier they're exposed to heavy amounts of drugs or alochol? Most of them are going to end up fucked. The thing you're not remembering here though is, whether my opinions or experiences are "right" or "wrong," I never let them make me act in stupid ways against people. I'm not going to go up to drunk kids and preach. Because I know that 90% of them are fucked anyway. And if they aren't? What difference would I have made then? I'll say my opinions on a subject based off my experiences and views. But understand that I'm not gonna go on some righteous crusade on people. I'm going to let them fuck off to whatever personal hells or paridises they engineer for themselves. So long as they stay out of my way and out of my life then I've no real problem with them.
3771
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:58:45 PM »
Wow. I wish people would stop assuming that drinking at an early age means you're destined for failure. Way to be ignorant and judgmental.
And if you haven't noticed, Sand, we're not even talking about the specific example in the OP at this point, but underage drinking in general.
Well, lemme see here. How about personal examples?
Let's see. There's my class. All the early birds to drinking and drugs turned out to be total fucking losers. Let's see, I've got a friend who was in a class ahead of me, a friend who was in a class behind me, and all the kids in those classes who started out with drugs or alcohol are total fucking losers.
That makes three classes of about 24-28 kids each, having approximately half of their number turn out to be total fucking losers.
I'm not assuming anything here class. I like to study people. And the consistent pattern I see in young and old people without fail, is that drinking or drugs from a young age, in almost 100% of instances, makes for poor people when growing up and being tossed out into the real world.
What starts out as something cool at a young age leads to addiction or just a habit. And once people go through with aging, those addictions and habits are cemented like fucking concrete. It's all they know, and all they're capable of.
Oh ya, I just thought of another group of kids a few grades down who had the same thing happen to them.
It's practically a fact, Class. Drinking or drugs from an early age, without quitting?
The kid's fucked.
Ridiculous. I started drinking and smoking when I was 14 and I got fantastic test scores and now in a great college. Assuming that "100%" of people are going to turn out to be losers is a dumb generalization to make.
Four classes worth of kids and countless other fun experiences on my end say otherwise. It's not a generalization when I've watched that shit repeat over and over again without fail. And I never said that it was 100%. Just likely 90%. But if we're going to drag your personal example into this, then how about this. How successful are you right now? And exactly, how happy are you? Looking at yourself right now, can your really, truly and honestly say that you think you are? Because a lot of your posts have implied or said otherwise.
3772
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:48:32 PM »
Wow. I wish people would stop assuming that drinking at an early age means you're destined for failure. Way to be ignorant and judgmental.
And if you haven't noticed, Sand, we're not even talking about the specific example in the OP at this point, but underage drinking in general.
Second point here. You remember that thread you made a few days ago about the cross dressers on your campus? That's judgemental. And ignorant. And it's exactly the same as me. You were basing your judgements off personal experience and your respective viewpoint. As I am basing my experiences with kids and alcohol off of all of mine. I've watched so many fucking people, that they're predictable in their patterns. A kid who drinks from that early of an age is, in 90% of circumstances, FUCKED. No two ways about it.
3773
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:43:50 PM »
The kid's young. Ender's only 14 after all.
He can be helped yet, you fucking cynical old man.
Not with parental examples in the way. Not with a society that greenlights things like that. And of course, not with the need to fit in at a young age. If they were smart, they wouldn't have started drinking at that age. But they did. They're most likely fucked.
3774
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:37:59 PM »
Wow. I wish people would stop assuming that drinking at an early age means you're destined for failure. Way to be ignorant and judgmental.
And if you haven't noticed, Sand, we're not even talking about the specific example in the OP at this point, but underage drinking in general.
Well, lemme see here. How about personal examples? Let's see. There's my class. All the early birds to drinking and drugs turned out to be total fucking losers. Let's see, I've got a friend who was in a class ahead of me, a friend who was in a class behind me, and all the kids in those classes who started out with drugs or alcohol are total fucking losers. That makes three classes of about 24-28 kids each, having approximately half of their number turn out to be total fucking losers. I'm not assuming anything here class. I like to study people. And the consistent pattern I see in young and old people without fail, is that drinking or drugs from a young age, in almost 100% of instances, makes for poor people when growing up and being tossed out into the real world. What starts out as something cool at a young age leads to addiction or just a habit. And once people go through with aging, those addictions and habits are cemented like fucking concrete. It's all they know, and all they're capable of. Oh ya, I just thought of another group of kids a few grades down who had the same thing happen to them. It's practically a fact, Class. Drinking or drugs from an early age, without quitting? The kid's fucked.
3775
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:30:05 PM »
Never expected you of all people to come up with a small wall like that.
It is a valid point though. In a peachy world, yeah, you don't need to do drugs. But, we're not taking into account human variables with that statement, are we? You technically never have to do drugs. But some people exist in situations where they don't see a choice or an option. Some use them as crutches and boons to support themselves.
Sorry for the echo chamber there. Just remembering something.
3776
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:13:24 PM »
FUCKING SMELTER HAMMER PLS.
3777
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:08:47 PM »
I'm sorry I believe in consent and freedom of choice. Yeah, adults alone should have that freedom, but it's still shitty to get involved in matters that don't concern you whatsoever. Interference is only good if consent is being breached.
Yeah, when they start disrupting everyone and breaking public property, that's totally just their business.
No one ever said that. This hypothetical person is just drinking.
And most hypothetical people when drinking turn into obnoxious cock monglers that you'd entertain the idea of running over with your preffered vehicle of choice.
Those kids are what? 14, 15?
That's a drunk bundle of hormanal bullshit. There isn't a fucking chance in hell that they aren't going to do something stupid, obnoxious, or annoying.
They're 15. They're still retards.
So? Way to generalize. If a kid is doing that you obviously should interfere, but I'm just talking about seeing a teenager drinking peacefully. You wouldn't walk up to him and give him a say no to booze lecture.
Depends. But, like I said elsewhere. If they're already drinking at that age, and they're doing it in school? They're losers. Plain and simple. They wouldn't be worth the bother to lecture, nor the bother to kick up a fuss over because Ender said there was more than one. They're a cool highschool kid group, you know, the kind who're king shit and cool in highschool who then quickly plummet down to complete and utter failures once they get shot off into the real world? If they were minding their own business, yeah, I wouldn't. But again, the way Ender tells it, they were being stupid. I'd at least tell them to shut the fuck up.
3778
« on: October 02, 2015, 06:58:35 PM »
I'm sorry I believe in consent and freedom of choice. Yeah, adults alone should have that freedom, but it's still shitty to get involved in matters that don't concern you whatsoever. Interference is only good if consent is being breached.
Yeah, when they start disrupting everyone and breaking public property, that's totally just their business.
No one ever said that. This hypothetical person is just drinking.
And most hypothetical people when drinking turn into obnoxious cock monglers that you'd entertain the idea of running over with your preffered vehicle of choice. Those kids are what? 14, 15? That's a drunk bundle of hormanal bullshit. There isn't a fucking chance in hell that they aren't going to do something stupid, obnoxious, or annoying. They're 15. They're still retards.
3779
« on: October 02, 2015, 06:55:52 PM »
I missed 2 employee meetings I was never even told about. They just took me off the schedule without telling me, and didn't plan on telling me til I went in to work today.
Glad I went in yesterday to check the schedule. Fuck 'em
Gay business blue balling at its finest.
3780
« on: October 02, 2015, 06:53:33 PM »
If I were able to, yeah. I doubt it'd be wholely awkward on its own. Casual conversation is pretty easy to strike up with complete strangers.
And you're not complete strangers. Your mannerisms in person just aren't known. There'd be a period of adjustment of getting used to actual physical people in person over just interacting with what's inside their head, basically.
Things might start off slow but I doubt they'd stay that way for long.
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