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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:18:22 PM »
Snippet out of one of about five or six stories I'm working on at the moment. Spoiler From atop another building, one of many in his little network of travel lines and caches, he sat against the guard rail, watching a man, not too far off from him, feet bound and encased in concrete, and wrapped in chains to hinder all movement except for one arm, left unbound, hanging freely. The man was as dull eyed and grey skinned as any other, but notably still wearing baseball clothes and a helmet. Slick seemed to be on the lower end of cognitive functions, paying him no mind if he kept his distance.
As he leaned against the rails, sitting down to relax as he pitched balls to Slick, he looked down to the pile he’d brought with him, absent mindedly reaching for his recorder.
“So, here’s my theory. Human body dies. Internal organ failure and massive brain trauma. Human host is then rebooted with varying degrees of necrosis.”
He pitched another ball over to Slick, watching as it impacted dead center into Slick’s chest, the man doing nothing in response.
“My theory is, that despite the massive brain trauma on death, they still actually have tangible memories. I got it from my old gym teacher a long time ago. Muscle memory, he called it. Do something enough and your muscles will remember. Stop, and you’ll get rusty.”
Another ball, impacting off of Slick’s batter helmet.
“But even if you’re rusty, if you give it some time, you’ll get back into the swing. And I think that’s what they operate on. That’s why they can walk, or run. Maybe that’s why they seem to have a pension for eating people. Or violence.”
He paused, looking out across the rooftop. He turned a baseball in his hand, slowly. Shutting off his recorder, as he stood back up under evening sun. He nodded, speaking quietly.
“Come on Slick. You got this one. Just like last time.”
Rearing his arm back as he wound up, he spoke loudly.
“All right Slick this one’s coming fast and hard! Yo batta batta!”
The ball whipped past him, through the air on a curve. He watched in tense silence. And then it happened. The ball whipped past Slick. Nothing. He sighed.
“God dammit Slick! That was your big one! You were supposed to take home the gold!”
The corpse turned its dull eyes and head sideways, raising the only free to move body part it had, an arm fitted with a worn down baseball glove. Slowly, its arm rose higher up into the air until it stopped. He rubbed his eyes, squinting as he reached for his recorder.
“Delayed response due to minimal cognitive functions. But, Slick just tried to catch a baseball. He actually tried.”
He smiled, starting to rock on his feet as he clutched his recorder. He watched Slick from across the rooftop, still holding up one arm sluggishly. Reaching down for another ball, making sure it was a baseball, he pushed on the recorder again.
“Sluggish responses, probably due to dulled eyesight in the day. Slick’s arm muscles might react faster than his brain if he feels contact on his glove hand. Commencing trial.”
Another slow windup as he reared back.
“Okay Slick this one’s coming nice and easy!”
He tossed the ball underhanded in a slow arc towards Slick, aiming for the raised glove hand. He watched as his pitch went wide and missed. He nodded, sighing.
“Okay that was my fault Slick. I’m a bad pitcher. Let’s try again. One more time.”
He paused for a moment, his breath catching as he held it.
“And the crowds are silent, waiting. This is it. All or nothing at the endgame. Come on golden boy, tell me I’m right!”
The corpse in chains remained in place, head turning slowly towards his voice. Picking up another ball as he walked a little closer, he took a breath, before making the pitch. The ball soared through the air in a slow arc, landing dead center into Slick’s glove.
Slick’s hand closed around the ball.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:12:21 PM »
"And I knew that it was better to live out one's own absurdity than to die for that of others"
-Invisible Man
Funny. I was just thinking of that old novel. Halloween's a fun season.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:10:03 PM »
Maybe, maybe not. Most of us probably have a fair understanding of how each other's heads work. But, we'll probably never get to pick up on the fun parts of things like social cues and interactions.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 10:54:42 AM »
"Lots of heart"
Wait, you get points for trying now? It's not a science fair project, it's a product.
Apparently you get loads a' money for trying even if it's shit. Like Destiny. Or the upcoming Battlefront.
3245
« on: October 13, 2015, 10:45:57 AM »
Nope.
3246
« on: October 13, 2015, 10:40:07 AM »
Aye, happy Birthday Ender!
Can't think of any questions at the moment so I'll just say happy birthday.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 03:00:46 AM »
If you get reincarnated but you don't have your memories or experiences then it's not really you, is it?
If you replace the brush then the handle of a broom, it's not the same broom any more. If you replace the body and mind of someone, they're not that person anymore.
My problem with the logic of reincarnation aside, no.
The thing you're missing out on here, is that most definitions of reincarnation state the individual on this particular plane of existence if you want to call that, is just a fraction of who they really are. Like a shard out of something larger. So, when you die, you're reunited with your sum whole. Their particular reasoning for this, is because down here, things are simpler. Your sum whole exists on another, wider realm of existence. To look at it in full, would be almost impossible. So, when you choose to return here, you're but a shard of yourself. Which is why some beliefs pursue the path of enlightenment. Reuniting with your whole, on this plane. Reincarnation has nothing to do with actually recycling you. It's simply reuniting with the larger sum. Rather fascinating these days for me to look at, and interesting, because a lot of the old Native American tribes up in my area had a very similiar belief system almost parallel to aspects of Buddhism and Hinduism.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 01:31:46 AM »
Occasionally, in rare instances, I learn something about myself. I'm more open here, obviously, than in person. This place provides me with the vital human interaction I need to accurately figure myself out. I've learned some important things about myself here, and actually applied myself to what I learned.
Secondly, there's always some new angle to learn.
Thirdly, the discussions here actually give me a lot of things to think about as I go about my day. You find that in mundane work like cutting firewood all day, you have a quaintly quiet opportunity to tune into your thoughts and immerse yourself in your own little bubble. Often, what I discuss here stays with me all day.
And fourth, it gives me a slight measure of comfort to know that I'm not alone out there in the world with some other people who have similar lines of thought. Not to sound pretentious, or even spiteful, but I'm surrounded by fucking morons. I could never, EVER, hope to have any conversations with 99% of the people around me like I do here.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 01:11:26 AM »
Little bit off topic here, but does anybody ever get a sour taste in their mouths, so to speak, after taking a stroll through philosophy stuff like this? Particularily debates?
Seems like a colossal waste of energy for some reason, because usually a philosophy on something as vague and open ended as death is all up to how people interpret things and personal opinion.
It's like watching two people trying to knock each other over with the slight breeze generated by their waving hand motions.
I actually dread when people bring this shit up.
i recommend not coming into the threads then. 
i find it energizing, personally
My curiosity leads me to shit places. I can't not show up to look over what's being discussed in threads like these.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:59:47 AM »
Little bit off topic here, but does anybody ever get a sour taste in their mouths, so to speak, after taking a stroll through philosophy stuff like this? Particularily debates?
Seems like a colossal waste of energy for some reason, because usually a philosophy on something as vague and open ended as death is all up to how people interpret things and personal opinion.
It's like watching two people trying to knock each other over with the slight breeze generated by their waving hand motions.
I actually dread when people bring this shit up.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:51:04 AM »
two rocks bumping into each other does not equal consciousness
fucking lol, this is exactly what you believe if you think that consciousness and perception and experience ALL derive from the brain, which is a completely physical construct. the brain is literally things bumping into each other, dude.
...
the difference is that one produces consciousness
the other does not
and cannot.
you insane fuck.
Sorry, but, it's an entertaining thought. I eagerly or not so eagerly await the day when I hear the headline, "Scientists create first sentient rock." Because that is something we'd fucking do. And then we'd sell them as pets.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:45:55 AM »
The more I stare into the dark abyss of those eyes and that slightly too perfect smile, the more I find myself wondering if I'm going to be dick cheney'd out in the woods if I take her up on the camping trip offer.
Maybe not even dick cheney'd because that smile and those eyes don't say "I'll just shoot you in the back and make it quick."
They say something along the lines of pure unrestrained horror.
I'll pass.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:42:23 AM »
This question depends on how we evaluate pain and suffering. Some people view it as inherently bad while others will view it as something that is on a number line, and thus can be cancelled by positives.
From my usual nihilistic perspective there is no objective morality so the concept is null. But considering the concept's usefulness for a functioning society, consent can most certainly be broken. In fact, society is founded on a breaking of consent, considering we are forced into life, forced into maturity, and forced into a life that most certainly entails suffering.
You kind of missed the point there slick. Verb wasn't asking if it could be broken. As I already told class, I don't much value laws and rules when people so readily fucking step over them without a shred of decency in between. But he was asking if it was always necessary. Or at least, to the maximum extent it could be taken.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:38:51 AM »
How does that precise firing of electrical signals contain that specific idea, or thought?
My best explanation is that they don't carry "ideas", but your brain is hard coded to remember stimuli. "Muscle memory" is an example of that; you don't consciously know what you're doing, it's just an evolutionary response to adapt to your environment. If that means learning algebra, then your brain remembers the conditions in which it was stimulated in such a way that it sets a precedent for future encounters to be used and built upon.
The other thing that intrigues me is of course, the as of yet unexplained. People do a lot of funky ass shit. Some of it can be bunk, no doubt. But then you get weird "reincarnation" shit like kids knowing about locations thousands of miles away. Like I said, most of it sounds sketchy and turns to to be as such. But there's some cases that are just downright fucking spooky. So precise to the letter even though they've never been there before for absolute certain, they know what's there. You often here stories of twins, for some reason, getting funny feelings about each other. If one's hurt the other one, for some reason, picks up on it. The thing people like to call intuition, which varies from person to person. That strange feeling you get when you know without a doubt in your mind about what's going to happen. Supernatural stuff too, I guess. There's a lot of unexplained stuff out there. I'm not too spiritual, funny enough. I like to be grounded here. But, reading up on some cases sometimes makes me wonder.
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« on: October 13, 2015, 12:22:08 AM »
Who can say. What makes me most curious about the subject, are thoughts and ideas. At an atomic level, even our thoughts have a form, to some degree. They have a "grounder," so to speak. They require some form of electromagnetism to exist because biologically a thought is a series of rapid fire biological electrical signals.
But what really intrigues me, is the how. How does that precise firing of electrical signals contain that specific idea, or thought? I don't think we'll ever know. Which, to me, gives me some vague sense that there's something else at work. Behind the scenes, so to speak.
Like a big invisible pool, or framework. I guess you could just call it the sum of everything. It's the root, or the source. Everything that ever was, is, or will be, is in there. Everything comes from it, everything goes back to it. Consider your body as just a grounding anchor. And when you die, that separation of whatever makes you can no longer occur, so you end up losing yourself into that sum collective.
In a sense, you could call that the end of your personal experience. That's always the notion I've had though. And, I don't know why. Had it long before I knew about any religions and what they taught. None of my parents were religious. It just seemed to fit.
But, whether or not I'm a snowballs chance of being right, it doesn't really matter. I'll find out some day anyway. If I do, it's the greatest answer to a question I could ever have. And if I'm wrong, then it's simply nap time.
3256
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:07:12 AM »
In hindsight.
Let me state clearly.
FUCK NO.
3257
« on: October 12, 2015, 07:59:50 PM »
A a day, keeps the away.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 05:56:55 PM »
Not really, no. But if I were to look into the underlying theme of things I could.....understand, I suppose.
Let's see, usually when you get molested by tentacles you get dragged off to some dark place where the main bulk of the critter is. You're essentially surrounded in an organic prison. Of which you proceed to get molested. In the best case scenario, the molestation monster pumps you full of brain altering stuff so basically all you do is feel good.
So, at the cost of freedom, all your needs are taken care of and you're never in a state of unhappiness again.
I could understand the appeal to some. Especially, if it's about seclusion. It's just you and the tentalce monstrosity. It could do anything kinky and depraved and nobody would know. Let's complicate the mix by throwing in a random stranger. Two of you are now partially involved in sexual acts with each other alongside the tentacle monstrosity.
I could get the appeal. Not really my ballgame though.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 05:25:58 PM »
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« on: October 12, 2015, 05:11:11 PM »
Here's another example, two, actually, primarily for Class, if we're going to take a hardline stance on any breach of consent being morally wrong.
Take somebody who is suicidally depressed. It's a proven fact that somebody who is suicidally depressed enough to kill themselves has an altered state of mind that's not functioning correctly anymore, which overrides their survival instinct entirely.
You would probably argue that it would be morally wrong to stop somebody from committing suicide since its a breach of their consent, obviously. But what if their mind isn't functioning correctly anymore? What do you categorize that as, then? Letting somebody who is arguably sick give into that "disease" and altered state of mind doesn't seem right. Because their judgement is warped.
And secondly, if we're to take an absolute stance on this, let me show you how ridiculous this can go.
Right now I could say that I'm paying taxes against my consent because I don't want to pay taxes. I don't like paying taxes.
You yourself, could say, "Hey, I don't like my fucking job, I don't want to go, this is a breach of consent."
Let's go even further. How about in social situations? When you "force" yourself to be polite to somebody when you don't like them, couldn't that be called a breach of consent? Because you're being forced to keep what you really think about them in your head.
How about right now? I could say that you not agreeing with me would be a breach of my consent because I'd like you to agree with me but you're not.
So, in those four cases, suddenly there's a lot of evil people wandering around. But you'd be called crazy if you took it that far. If you took such a hardline stance on it. And it all still amounts to nothing.
So, I don't think a hardline stance works. You have to draw a line somewhere between when a breach of consent is warrented, and it isn't.
Otherwise it becomes fucking ridiculous.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 04:26:53 PM »
But, here's my question to you. If I'm morally wrong on a call like that, then what would you do, if anything, to stop me?
Let's assume that in five minutes, I'm going to go out and do that to somebody. And you have that knowledge. What do you do?
Um, nothing? I don't know where you live. If you were going to go out and murder someone, I couldn't do anything.
Then you'd be morally wrong for doing nothing. Would you agree, that if you happened on somebody committing something morally wrong, that you'd be just as equally morally wrong for letting such a thing continue, if you had the abilitiy to stop it? If you say yes, then you'd be morally wrong for letting me go out to do that to somebody. And you can't bring up the excuse of not knowing where I live, because you have an admin on this site who knows everybody's IP addresses. You could then call the american police, and ask to be routed to the canadian police to report a crime in progress based off the IP address you have which pins the location I live in perfectly. I've actually done this before. It's not hard. There are actually several ways you could do something in a scenario like this were it a real thing.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 04:12:49 PM »
I would.
Well, if I went to hell for helping to save somebody close to me, who watches my back as I watch theirs, then by all means I'd do it. The funny thing about this, to me, is that you're going to argue that it would be wrong. When the irony here is, is that the world really doesn't give a shit if it's wrong. And nor do people. This is why I don't enjoy taking such a hardline stance on morals. Because they're so easily stepped over and broken. And the line can blur so god damn easy. But, here's my question to you. If I'm morally wrong on a call like that, then what would you do, if anything, to stop me? Let's assume that in five minutes, I'm going to go out and do that to somebody. And you have that knowledge. What do you do?
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« on: October 12, 2015, 04:02:50 PM »
I good example of breach of consent where the line blurs. Let's assume for a minute, that we label any breach of consent as morally wrong.
And let's say, that you have a best friend. This isn't just a friend, right? This is best friend. The two of you stick together like glue, the other comes running when you call, that sort of thing. And your best pal starts taking drugs. The heavy kind that will kill them. You know it's going to kill them because that's what happens. But they're too scared to quit due to the withdrawl they're going to face.
Would you be morally wrong to not point out that "Hey, if you keep this up you're going to kill yourself?"
This is based off my perspective, but when you're friends with somebody, and they're doing something stupid, you point it out to them. And if they're way in above their head, then you, as their best friend, should be obligated to pull them out. If you care so much about them and value them, then their feelings about what you might have to say on the matter become irrelevant because you're doing it to help them, not hurt them.
If I ever, for some reason, ended up taking heavy drugs that would kill me, I would expect the closest friend of mine to be there to slap my fucking shit up and wake me the fuck up, even if they had to chain me up and force me into withdrawl. I'd do the same for a friend, and I'd expect no less.
Would you call that morally wrong even if it breaches consent?
I wouldn't.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 03:51:51 PM »
If your heart stops on an operating table while you're under you technically aren't going to have any say in what happens to you. Somebody is going to choose for you. Sometimes, people make choices for others for the overall long term benefit of somebody, even if they would have said no, otherwise.
So no. I don't think consent is always neccessary because there's situations where you can have no say in the matter, and situations where a choice can be made for you that nets you an overall better end result despite your lack of consent or even objection.
In most cases where consent can be given, yeah, it should be neccessary and always taken into consideration.
But is it morally "wrong" to make a choice for somebody when they're basically out for the count? No.
How about even if they object but it's for their own betterment and will help them in the long run? No, I don't think so either.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 11:11:38 AM »
I bet nobody knows the context when they reblog it.
Does anybody know the context when they reblog anything?
All aboard the submarine because nigga, we're goin' deep.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 11:00:25 AM »
It is a cute little gif.
But I have no doubt that those 50,000 round the bend toilet swirls of reblog shit had a different intent behind them.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 10:56:39 AM »
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« on: October 12, 2015, 10:41:39 AM »
Anti Islamism being a bad thing...how?
Because the vast majority of muslims are no different than your harmless Christian grandma. Only the extremists are something to worry about, but every religion has its extremists. This whole Glenn Beck bullshit is pure fear mongering.
Now, there's something I've always wondered. You have to admit that the religion itself if rough. No denying that. There's some rough shit in the book they follow. So, here's my thought. You have a book with some less than desirable statements telling people about how to act. The religion itself is something I might even call extremist by nature. Yes, every religion has its shitty extremeists that take it too far. But how exactly, can you tell them apart? How can you tell who has the potential to go extremist when the religion actively promotes it? When this religion, more than others I've seen, is really heavy on the brainwashing?
3269
« on: October 12, 2015, 03:27:39 AM »
 Ya'll faces when weeb shit
3270
« on: October 12, 2015, 02:44:37 AM »
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