Quote from: The Satanic Mandalore on February 05, 2015, 06:37:08 PMIf it isn't Orsimer, it's trash.>literal shit people
If it isn't Orsimer, it's trash.
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
What if I am with the Thalmor? All my characters were neither with the Empire nor The Stormcloak rebels.
Quote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 03:21:38 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:11:08 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.Then why are Argonians pretty much not allowed into Windhelm? And the Dunmer pushed into the 'Grey Quarter' (previously the Snow Corner but changed because racism)?This literally has nothing to do with religious freedom.Which is also not morally the same as in real life, because again we're talking about inherently different peoples, meaning inherently different behavior and natural rights, where magic and religion are actually real.He's also not entirely unjustified in distrusting the Dunmer, seeing as this is in the back of their cornerclub.Spoiler
Quote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:11:08 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.Then why are Argonians pretty much not allowed into Windhelm? And the Dunmer pushed into the 'Grey Quarter' (previously the Snow Corner but changed because racism)?
Quote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.
He'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.
>Argonian hating Neo-Nazis>"Morally superior"LOLWat
Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 12:47:36 AMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:34:34 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 03:21:38 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:11:08 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.Then why are Argonians pretty much not allowed into Windhelm? And the Dunmer pushed into the 'Grey Quarter' (previously the Snow Corner but changed because racism)?This literally has nothing to do with religious freedom.Which is also not morally the same as in real life, because again we're talking about inherently different peoples, meaning inherently different behavior and natural rights, where magic and religion are actually real.He's also not entirely unjustified in distrusting the Dunmer, seeing as this is in the back of their cornerclub.SpoilerSo what if it's not religious discrimination >.> it's still something. And the Dunmer feel neglected while the Argonians actually are neglected.Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 12:47:36 AMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:34:34 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 03:21:38 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:11:08 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.Then why are Argonians pretty much not allowed into Windhelm? And the Dunmer pushed into the 'Grey Quarter' (previously the Snow Corner but changed because racism)?This literally has nothing to do with religious freedom.Which is also not morally the same as in real life, because again we're talking about inherently different peoples, meaning inherently different behavior and natural rights, where magic and religion are actually real.He's also not entirely unjustified in distrusting the Dunmer, seeing as this is in the back of their cornerclub.SpoilerSo what if it's not religious discrimination >.> it's still something. And the Dunmer feel neglected while the Argonians actually are neglected.Which doesn't REALLY matter, because Ulfric is just doing what's best for his cause right now. The fact that there is support for the Empire among the community leaders of the Dunmer doesn't exactly look good. And like I said, the Argonians have to be kept out because mixing the largest Argonian population in Skyrim with the largest Dunmer population in Skyrim is a really really bad idea.Of course, again, "muh racism" is completely irrelevant, because Dunmee and Argonians aren't human, and are inherently different from humans biologically and psychologically. Dunmer are daedra worshippers, which would be scary to ANY Nord, and Argonians are completely unpredictable, because the Hist can take over at any time.
Quote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:34:34 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 03:21:38 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:11:08 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.Then why are Argonians pretty much not allowed into Windhelm? And the Dunmer pushed into the 'Grey Quarter' (previously the Snow Corner but changed because racism)?This literally has nothing to do with religious freedom.Which is also not morally the same as in real life, because again we're talking about inherently different peoples, meaning inherently different behavior and natural rights, where magic and religion are actually real.He's also not entirely unjustified in distrusting the Dunmer, seeing as this is in the back of their cornerclub.SpoilerSo what if it's not religious discrimination >.> it's still something. And the Dunmer feel neglected while the Argonians actually are neglected.
Quote from: Atticus on February 06, 2015, 11:41:34 AMthis doesnt even make sense.
Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 11:01:03 AMYeah, discrimination brought about by wartime paranoia.Is it paranoia if you're right?QuoteSounds a lot like real life.Only in the most superficial way. If you understand the cultures and politics involved it has no real-world analogue.QuoteThe Empire has 'race-mixing'So does Skyrim? What's your point here? Quoteand they're fineLOLQuotecowardly Emperor notwithstanding.Mede has done nothing wrong other than allow the Thalmor to crack down on Talos worship. That alone, though, is reason enough to break away. The very survival of the Mundus depends on Talos and the Towers.
Yeah, discrimination brought about by wartime paranoia.
Sounds a lot like real life.
The Empire has 'race-mixing'
and they're fine
cowardly Emperor notwithstanding.
Quote from: TrussingDoor on February 06, 2015, 09:46:35 AMQuote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 12:47:36 AMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:34:34 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 03:21:38 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:11:08 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.Then why are Argonians pretty much not allowed into Windhelm? And the Dunmer pushed into the 'Grey Quarter' (previously the Snow Corner but changed because racism)?This literally has nothing to do with religious freedom.Which is also not morally the same as in real life, because again we're talking about inherently different peoples, meaning inherently different behavior and natural rights, where magic and religion are actually real.He's also not entirely unjustified in distrusting the Dunmer, seeing as this is in the back of their cornerclub.SpoilerSo what if it's not religious discrimination >.> it's still something. And the Dunmer feel neglected while the Argonians actually are neglected.Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 12:47:36 AMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:34:34 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 03:21:38 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on February 05, 2015, 03:11:08 PMQuote from: Kupo on February 05, 2015, 07:36:42 AMHe'll give everyone religious freedom, so long as they're not Argonian or Dunmer. Equality for everyone! Just some people are more equal than others.okay first the Argonians aren't even religious, 2nd there is no implication at all that Ulfric intends to stop the Dunmer from worshipping their gods.Then why are Argonians pretty much not allowed into Windhelm? And the Dunmer pushed into the 'Grey Quarter' (previously the Snow Corner but changed because racism)?This literally has nothing to do with religious freedom.Which is also not morally the same as in real life, because again we're talking about inherently different peoples, meaning inherently different behavior and natural rights, where magic and religion are actually real.He's also not entirely unjustified in distrusting the Dunmer, seeing as this is in the back of their cornerclub.SpoilerSo what if it's not religious discrimination >.> it's still something. And the Dunmer feel neglected while the Argonians actually are neglected.Which doesn't REALLY matter, because Ulfric is just doing what's best for his cause right now. The fact that there is support for the Empire among the community leaders of the Dunmer doesn't exactly look good. And like I said, the Argonians have to be kept out because mixing the largest Argonian population in Skyrim with the largest Dunmer population in Skyrim is a really really bad idea.Of course, again, "muh racism" is completely irrelevant, because Dunmee and Argonians aren't human, and are inherently different from humans biologically and psychologically. Dunmer are daedra worshippers, which would be scary to ANY Nord, and Argonians are completely unpredictable, because the Hist can take over at any time.Yeah, discrimination brought about by wartime paranoia. Sounds a lot like real life. The Empire has 'race-mixing' and they're fine, cowardly Emperor notwithstanding.
How the fuck was the Emperor cowardly? After the Dominion took over the Imperial City, he planned a sound strategy that took back the city and effectively ended the war. He only had to sign the treaty due to the mass amount of casualties. Even the Empires leading commanders like General Tulius hint the Empire is preparing to strike the Dominion, or at least are more prepared for defense than the last time.
Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on February 06, 2015, 12:02:29 PMHow the fuck was the Emperor cowardly? After the Dominion took over the Imperial City, he planned a sound strategy that took back the city and effectively ended the war. He only had to sign the treaty due to the mass amount of casualties. Even the Empires leading commanders like General Tulius hint the Empire is preparing to strike the Dominion, or at least are more prepared for defense than the last time.He sold his soul to the Thalmor and consequently put the end of the world in motion. Would you not fight to the death to save the world?
It's cool that you're saying things with nothing to back them up, but no matter what Ulfric's true motivation is, what he's doing is the right thing.
Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 12:12:00 PMQuote from: Voro 'Cinotai on February 06, 2015, 12:02:29 PMHow the fuck was the Emperor cowardly? After the Dominion took over the Imperial City, he planned a sound strategy that took back the city and effectively ended the war. He only had to sign the treaty due to the mass amount of casualties. Even the Empires leading commanders like General Tulius hint the Empire is preparing to strike the Dominion, or at least are more prepared for defense than the last time.He sold his soul to the Thalmor and consequently put the end of the world in motion. Would you not fight to the death to save the world?<.< Oh yes, a man concentrating on trying to keep the Empire alive and attempt to drive out the Dominion should have been more focused on a legend saying a dragon will re-appear thousands of years after they've been wiped out.