Quote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What're you going to do when you want to admire your gaming legacyYou going to dig out your harddrive and show off those sick digital receipts to your grandchildren or are you going to pull out that fat stack of cases you stood in line at midnight for
Quote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.
Quote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have it
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmal
People don't buy physical copies what
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 14, 2016, 07:57:04 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What're you going to do when you want to admire your gaming legacyYou going to dig out your harddrive and show off those sick digital receipts to your grandchildren or are you going to pull out that fat stack of cases you stood in line at midnight for>standing in line at midnighti'd rather just play it when the clock hits 9pm the night before
You don't need to pay for LIVE to download games, only if you want to play with others.
So the faster download is just faster and its free.
Quote from: LC on December 14, 2016, 10:57:28 AMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 14, 2016, 07:57:04 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What're you going to do when you want to admire your gaming legacyYou going to dig out your harddrive and show off those sick digital receipts to your grandchildren or are you going to pull out that fat stack of cases you stood in line at midnight for>standing in line at midnighti'd rather just play it when the clock hits 9pm the night beforeThis is like eating pussy with a dental damYeah you did it but it still doesn't count
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 14, 2016, 11:15:23 AMQuote from: LC on December 14, 2016, 10:57:28 AMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 14, 2016, 07:57:04 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What're you going to do when you want to admire your gaming legacyYou going to dig out your harddrive and show off those sick digital receipts to your grandchildren or are you going to pull out that fat stack of cases you stood in line at midnight for>standing in line at midnighti'd rather just play it when the clock hits 9pm the night beforeThis is like eating pussy with a dental damYeah you did it but it still doesn't countwhatever dude, the only thing that maters to me is that i'll be playing it for a good 2-3 hours before you even get home while still going to bed at a respectable hour
Quote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What if I still buy CDs and DVDs? Am I still allowed to complain about digital shit?
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 13, 2016, 07:51:42 PMI've hated PSN for years. I can't fathom how some people can unironically believe that PSN is somehow equal to or greater than XBL, because it's very clearly not.PSN was free on PS3, making it better by default.
I've hated PSN for years. I can't fathom how some people can unironically believe that PSN is somehow equal to or greater than XBL, because it's very clearly not.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 13, 2016, 07:53:27 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 13, 2016, 07:51:42 PMI've hated PSN for years. I can't fathom how some people can unironically believe that PSN is somehow equal to or greater than XBL, because it's very clearly not.PSN was free on PS3, making it better by default. Dude you have some stupid opinions, god damn.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 13, 2016, 08:00:04 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 13, 2016, 07:58:35 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 13, 2016, 07:53:27 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 13, 2016, 07:51:42 PMI've hated PSN for years. I can't fathom how some people can unironically believe that PSN is somehow equal to or greater than XBL, because it's very clearly not.PSN was free on PS3, making it better by default.It was slow and the security sucked. PSN was always held together by duct tape.I mean, I could buy a cheap car with tape for a window and two flat tires, but that doesn't make it a better deal.Security is a non-issue if you're smart and never have money in your account and always pay for purchases upfront.It wasn't that slow, and even if it's super slow for you, it's still free.You don't have to like it, but it shouldn't be that difficult to understand why some people would have preferred it for a time. PSN isn't free anymore on PS4, obviously, and that's a big fucking problem for me--but it was indisputably the better option for people like me who CANNOT STAND annual fees.You don't need to pay for LIVE to download games, only if you want to play with others. So the faster download is just faster and its free.
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 13, 2016, 07:58:35 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 13, 2016, 07:53:27 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 13, 2016, 07:51:42 PMI've hated PSN for years. I can't fathom how some people can unironically believe that PSN is somehow equal to or greater than XBL, because it's very clearly not.PSN was free on PS3, making it better by default.It was slow and the security sucked. PSN was always held together by duct tape.I mean, I could buy a cheap car with tape for a window and two flat tires, but that doesn't make it a better deal.Security is a non-issue if you're smart and never have money in your account and always pay for purchases upfront.It wasn't that slow, and even if it's super slow for you, it's still free.You don't have to like it, but it shouldn't be that difficult to understand why some people would have preferred it for a time. PSN isn't free anymore on PS4, obviously, and that's a big fucking problem for me--but it was indisputably the better option for people like me who CANNOT STAND annual fees.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 13, 2016, 07:53:27 PMQuote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 13, 2016, 07:51:42 PMI've hated PSN for years. I can't fathom how some people can unironically believe that PSN is somehow equal to or greater than XBL, because it's very clearly not.PSN was free on PS3, making it better by default.It was slow and the security sucked. PSN was always held together by duct tape.I mean, I could buy a cheap car with tape for a window and two flat tires, but that doesn't make it a better deal.
What're you going to do when you want to admire your gaming legacyYou going to dig out your harddrive and show off those sick digital receipts to your grandchildren or are you going to pull out that fat stack of cases you stood in line at midnight for
Quote from: BaconShelf on December 14, 2016, 12:08:48 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What if I still buy CDs and DVDs? Am I still allowed to complain about digital shit?Hell, my dad still buys vinyl records.Digital is just intolerable in every way. I bought Pokémon Moon digitally--just because I had never really done so before--and I very much regret it.
Because that's Sony
Quote from: True Turquoise on December 14, 2016, 01:33:16 PMBecause that's SonyGears of War 4 took me 45 minutes to install when Fallout 4 on PS4 took me about 6 hours.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 14, 2016, 12:19:52 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on December 14, 2016, 12:08:48 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What if I still buy CDs and DVDs? Am I still allowed to complain about digital shit?Hell, my dad still buys vinyl records.Digital is just intolerable in every way. I bought Pokémon Moon digitally--just because I had never really done so before--and I very much regret it.Your real mistake was buying Pokemon Moon at all
Quote from: Jono on December 14, 2016, 01:37:07 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on December 14, 2016, 01:33:16 PMBecause that's SonyGears of War 4 took me 45 minutes to install when Fallout 4 on PS4 took me about 6 hours.Gears is 64GB and Fallout 4 is 30GB or so Something's wrong there
Quote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 01:36:37 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 14, 2016, 12:19:52 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on December 14, 2016, 12:08:48 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 03:26:30 AMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 09:17:12 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PMQuote from: LC on December 13, 2016, 08:59:29 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PMPeople don't buy physical copies whati rarely buy physical copies on the PC or Boner because i have no need to due to their online marketplaces actually being pretty goodon the playstation physical copies are the only way to go because the online service is abysmalI can't stand not having a game in my hands It's like I don't even have itIt's a new thing for console users, but the PC platform has been (almost) digital only for so long now that I don't even think twice about not having a physical copy anymore. I actually prefer it to be digital now just because it's much more convenient to not have vidya taking up room on the shelf and having to dig out the disk every time i want to play something different.Even then, I just think of people saying this, and them probably not spending anything on music since it's a digital market now. Games are easily going to be like that within a decades time.And yeah, not digging around is great, and I still feel like I own it. I never subscribed to the "I don't FEEL like I own it unless I hold it" feeling people seem to still hold. I only argue that point if it's a special edition, or a collectors thing or something with a cool case.What if I still buy CDs and DVDs? Am I still allowed to complain about digital shit?Hell, my dad still buys vinyl records.Digital is just intolerable in every way. I bought Pokémon Moon digitally--just because I had never really done so before--and I very much regret it.Your real mistake was buying Pokemon Moon at allit's a dope game tho
Games are basically digital now a days, even WHEN you get the disk anyway. With all the day 1 updates, and whatever else, it's slowly shifting more and more digital.
Quote from: Luciana on December 14, 2016, 04:03:55 PMGames are basically digital now a days, even WHEN you get the disk anyway. With all the day 1 updates, and whatever else, it's slowly shifting more and more digital.DON'T LOSE THAT SD CARD/EXTERNAL DRIVE!
I know the feeling. Took about nine hours to download an 8gB game on PS4 when it would take about two hours to download the same thing on PC or 360.It's still an improvement over the PS3, although that's not saying much.
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 13, 2016, 07:41:26 PMI know the feeling. Took about nine hours to download an 8gB game on PS4 when it would take about two hours to download the same thing on PC or 360.It's still an improvement over the PS3, although that's not saying much.This sounded so far-fetched when I first read it, that I had to wait for a big update to verify it. I just downlaoded a 7.6 gigabyte update for SFV.Literally took ~30 minutes. Is that unreasonable? Because either the "nine hours" was a crazy exaggeration and you guys just have less patience than Dr. Tuchiskidz, or you're legitimately having to wait that long, and it's just a personal problem, not PSN's problem. I think, personally, I can handle waiting a little over the length of my average shower to play a video game.
When I downloaded Let It Die, that's how long it took (the first part, not the 16gB second-half) and it only happens on PS4. I'm not saying that it's that long for everyone, which would be silly. Different people have different connection speeds. But for a noticeably higher time using the same connection as other devices, it's a problem.
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 20, 2016, 02:03:11 PMWhen I downloaded Let It Die, that's how long it took (the first part, not the 16gB second-half) and it only happens on PS4. I'm not saying that it's that long for everyone, which would be silly. Different people have different connection speeds. But for a noticeably higher time using the same connection as other devices, it's a problem.A personal one--not something we should be blaming PSN for, is my point.
If Device A completes in 30 minutes, Device B completes in 35 minutes, Device C1 completes in 2 hours, and Device C2 completes in 2 hours-- all else being equal-- what does that say? It's not an issue with the internet service, as it's consistent across all devices and Device C clearly has a different result than the other two. It's not a hardware issue with that particular unit, as both units of Device C have the same result.It's not length of time that is the issue, it's length of time comparatively to other devices.
Why is PSN's download speed so fucking terrible?
