Quote from: Tackel on December 29, 2015, 12:51:09 PM

Lightsaber and force like combat like Jedi Academy/Force Unleashed (mainly force grip from Force Unleashed)

Yes to Academy, no to the force unleashed for me

It's really only be the way you control the force powers. Take Academy's lightsaber combat and apply it to the way TFU used it's force grip and lightning mechanic and you have a really good game. Obviously tone down force powers to a reasonable level, but when you compare TFU's force grip to Jedi Academy/Outcast, TFU's is obviously better.

Bioware's new Mass Effect game seems to be losing developers in all departments so things aren't looking great for the company.

So I'm the only one here who really likes older style, turn based dice rolls in their RPGs?

So I'm the only one here who really likes older style, turn based dice rolls in their RPGs?

I can't say I'm a fan. I like knowing I'm doing good because I'm good, not because I got lucky with RNG.

Quote from: Tackel on December 29, 2015, 12:51:09 PM

Bioware's games that have turned based combat seem to be pretty shit, at least in my opinion. KoToR, TOR, Dragon Age.

None of those games have turn based combat.

KOTOR is definitely turn-based, even if you play it in real-time without any pauses.

Quote from: Auld Lang Turkey on January 01, 2016, 11:04:10 AM

Quote from: Lemnator on January 01, 2016, 10:56:14 AM

Quote from: Tackel on December 29, 2015, 12:51:09 PM

Bioware's games that have turned based combat seem to be pretty shit, at least in my opinion. KoToR, TOR, Dragon Age.

None of those games have turn based combat.

KOTOR is definitely turn-based, even if you play it in real-time without any pauses.

FFVII is turn based combat. KOTOR is real time combat.

What does FF7 have to do with anything? KOTOR is not real time; it hides the rounds if you change the settings to do so, but it is a series of rounds with pauses between each.

Regardless, DA and TOR combat is pretty solid. Definitely not shit. KOTOR is the worst of the three, IMO.

Quote from: Lemnator on January 01, 2016, 10:56:14 AM

Quote from: Tackel on December 29, 2015, 12:51:09 PM

Bioware's games that have turned based combat seem to be pretty shit, at least in my opinion. KoToR, TOR, Dragon Age.

None of those games have turn based combat.

KOTOR is definitely turn-based, even if you play it in real-time without any pauses.

Yes when it comes down to combat it is turn based like. When you're firing at someone that NPC takes time to avoid it and then they fire at you. What I said there would be you fire at them and when you are done firing that NPC fires back. There are some combat encounters where each person is taking a turn during attacking. But that still doesn't make it a true turn based game like Fallout 1 or 2.

If it was truly a turn based game like Fallout 1 and 2 you or only one NPC at a time would have so many actions during a turn. Those actions would be counted towards either movement, combat or doing something with an item. But in KoTOR everybody is attacking or moving around at the same time instead of only one person doing an action at a time. The game is not truly a turn based game when an NPC is firing at me and I'm moving around during it.

KOTOR's D20 system is great and has aged pretty well. Finished a playthrough of KOTOR a couple days ago and am playing through KOTOR 2 right now.

Quote from: Auld Lang Turkey on January 01, 2016, 11:04:10 AM

Quote from: Lemnator on January 01, 2016, 10:56:14 AM

Quote from: Tackel on December 29, 2015, 12:51:09 PM

Bioware's games that have turned based combat seem to be pretty shit, at least in my opinion. KoToR, TOR, Dragon Age.

None of those games have turn based combat.

KOTOR is definitely turn-based, even if you play it in real-time without any pauses.

Yes when it comes down to combat it is turn based like. When you're firing at someone that NPC takes time to avoid it and then they fire at you. What I said there would be you fire at them and when you are done firing that NPC fires back. There are some combat encounters where each person is taking a turn during attacking. But that still doesn't make it a true turn based game like Fallout 1 or 2.

If it was truly a turn based game like Fallout 1 and 2 you or only one NPC at a time would have so many actions during a turn. Those actions would be counted towards either movement, combat or doing something with an item. But in KoTOR everybody is attacking or moving around at the same time instead of only one person doing an action at a time. The game is not truly a turn based game when an NPC is firing at me and I'm moving around during it.

Rounds are commenced simultaneously, with the same effect as if it was sequential. It's turn-based combat that can be executed in real-time by queuing moves. Overall I'm not really sure what the point of this argument is.

So I'm the only one here who really likes older style, turn based dice rolls in their RPGs?

Nah.