Why do most of you guys game on consoles as opposed to PC?

 
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Yeah and like, some games actually have the underlying mechanics updating 60 times per second while the graphics run at 30 frames per second, essentially (theoretically) making frame rate a moot point.
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So this is basically a debate about FPS now right?
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You find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun.
it could be fun

depends on what i'm doing
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The reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world.
that's all well and good, but i fail to see why that means it's better objectively
Yeah and like, some games actually have the underlying mechanics updating 60 times per second while the graphics run at 30 frames per second, essentially (theoretically) making frame rate a moot point.
Do you have any examples of this? As far as I know, the only cases where mechanics matter with framerate are those that are tied to it. Examples being Killer is Dead, GTAV, and Resident Evil 1.
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So this is basically a debate about FPS now right?
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You find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun.
it could be fun

depends on what i'm doing
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The reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world.
that's all well and good, but i fail to see why that means it's better objectively
Yeah and like, some games actually have the underlying mechanics updating 60 times per second while the graphics run at 30 frames per second, essentially (theoretically) making frame rate a moot point.
Do you have any examples of this? As far as I know, the only cases where mechanics matter with framerate are those that are tied to it. Examples being Killer is Dead, GTAV, and the newest REmake.
Criterion's Need for Speed 2010 (and likely 2012's Most Wanted) is the only specific example I can think of off the top of my head.


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Oh my god when did this turn into B.net gaming?


 
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So this is basically a debate about FPS now right?

You find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun. You may as well go read a book. The reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world.  Sure you could make a game with a very low FPS. But it needs a reason, and it wont work any better then any other gimmick.

You cant expect someone to properly  play any game that isnt an interactive book at such a slow speed.
Idk about that argument of "in the world" holding up, seeing as Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne are 30 fps and they immersed me in the world far more than say... Far Cry 3 at 60.

Latency is something you're talking about in terms of reacting.


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Oh my god when did this turn into B.net gaming?
It was always Bnet gaming. Just with a face lift.


 
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console gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior
>no wind waker
>no super metroid
>no games at all

all right
pfft
name a good game on PC that i can't play on console

no RTS games
no FPS games
Kerbal Space Program
its coming to console


 
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console gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior
>no wind waker
>no super metroid
>no games at all

all right
pfft
name a good game on PC that i can't play on console

no RTS games
no FPS games
Kerbal Space Program
its coming to console
After how many years? Come on.


 
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console gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior
>no wind waker
>no super metroid
>no games at all

all right
pfft
name a good game on PC that i can't play on console

no RTS games
no FPS games
Kerbal Space Program
its coming to console
After how many years? Come on.
stfu


 
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console gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior
>no wind waker
>no super metroid
>no games at all

all right
pfft
name a good game on PC that i can't play on console

no RTS games
no FPS games
Kerbal Space Program
its coming to console
After how many years? Come on.
stfu
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console gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior
>no wind waker
>no super metroid
>no games at all

all right
pfft
name a good game on PC that i can't play on console

no RTS games
no FPS games
Kerbal Space Program
its coming to console
After how many years? Come on.
Vanilla KSP at that.

Lame.


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-halo
-friends
-physical copies of games
-I hate k&m so there's no point in playing multiplayer
-consoles have the expectation te game is going to run on the platform. To get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more money or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the disc
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-consoles have the expectation te game is going to run on the platform.
Not necessarily


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-consoles have the expectation te game is going to run on the platform.
Not necessarily


Well, yeah. When I see fallout coming to Xbox, I don't have to go and look at my specs just to make sure I an play it. I can just get the disc, plug it in and play it. Granted, games like ACUnity and Arkham Knight (though it was only the PC release that was shit) are becoming much more common in AAA games.


I thought of another one. I can sell my games when I don't want/ need them anymore.


 
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To get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more money
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No... you don't. I don't understand why people think this. Seriously, would a little research hurt you guys? You can build a PC stronger than the current gen consoles for the same price.

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or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the disc
This is a strong point however, and I can completely understand why people wouldn't want to do that.


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To get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more money
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No... you don't. I don't understand why people think this. Seriously, would a little research hurt you guys? You can build a PC stronger than the current gen consoles for the same price.

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or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the disc
This is a strong point however, and I can completely understand why people wouldn't want to do that.


I should clarify. I meant if you want that PC to last a few years running games. I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!) but still a couple hundred more expensive. And with building your own, there's always the danger that you suck and the parts aren't put together right or are incompatible.


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Specific exclusives tbh. I have an okay PC for gaming, but I have much more fun playing Mario Kart 8 with some friends, or 8 player smash. PC's don't really offer a great deal of major games catered to split screen. Console games still look pretty swish imo, despite the greater hardware limitations.

Price can also be a factor for some people. Compare the $1,400 I spent on my PC to the $350 I spent on a Wii-U this year. Bit of a difference.


 
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I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!)
wow

i thought that guy was supposed to be smart


 
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To get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more money
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No... you don't. I don't understand why people think this. Seriously, would a little research hurt you guys? You can build a PC stronger than the current gen consoles for the same price.

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or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the disc
This is a strong point however, and I can completely understand why people wouldn't want to do that.


I should clarify. I meant if you want that PC to last a few years running games. I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!) but still a couple hundred more expensive. And with building your own, there's always the danger that you suck and the parts aren't put together right or are incompatible.
There is that danger, but common sense researching and asking around will easily fix that problem for you. Plus, once you actually get your new rig, you're only gonna be slowly upgrading a part at a time, not completely wiping. In the long run, it saves you more money than a console ever would.


 
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Compare the $1,400 I spent on my PC
Why?... Do people just opt to brand name top end things or what?


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I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!)
wow

i thought that guy was supposed to be smart


To be fair. Playing video games to do the videos is his job. Like, he doesn't actually get to play the games he likes that much because he needs to spend a decent amount of time in other games. But also, if his PC can't run it, it's definitely a shitty port.


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To get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more money
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No... you don't. I don't understand why people think this. Seriously, would a little research hurt you guys? You can build a PC stronger than the current gen consoles for the same price.

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or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the disc
This is a strong point however, and I can completely understand why people wouldn't want to do that.


I should clarify. I meant if you want that PC to last a few years running games. I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!) but still a couple hundred more expensive. And with building your own, there's always the danger that you suck and the parts aren't put together right or are incompatible.
There is that danger, but common sense researching and asking around will easily fix that problem for you. Plus, once you actually get your new rig, you're only gonna be slowly upgrading a part at a time, not completely wiping. In the long run, it saves you more money than a console ever would.


Compare having to go and research a bunch of different stuff to just walking into a shop and buying something. One is a lot more convenient.


 
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I don't think that $5000 would go JUST to games, either... He must be doing multiple, and I mean multiple things to max his CPU/GPU and... something, idk.

Maybe it's just insurance for the next 20 years. I would think he got sponsor money for it too or something.


 
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Compare having to go and research a bunch of different stuff to just walking into a shop and buying something. One is a lot more convenient.
That is certainly true. That is an advantage to console playing and I completely understand it.


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Compare the $1,400 I spent on my PC
Why?... Do people just opt to brand name top end things or what?

Nah, it was nowhere near the best specs available. Australian import tax is just objectively bullshit. Even if I had gone similar spec'd AMD it would have only been $200 cheaper at best, leaving it at $850 more expensive than a Console.
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Compare the $1,400 I spent on my PC
Why?... Do people just opt to brand name top end things or what?

Nah, it was nowhere near the best specs available. Australian import tax is just objectively bullshit.
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Compare the $1,400 I spent on my PC
Why?... Do people just opt to brand name top end things or what?

Nah, it was nowhere near the best specs available. Australian import tax is just objectively bullshit. Even if I had gone similar spec'd AMD it would have only been $200 cheaper at best, leaving it at $850 more expensive than a Console.
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Compare having to go and research a bunch of different stuff to just walking into a shop and buying something. One is a lot more convenient.
That is certainly true. That is an advantage to console playing and I completely understand it.

Yeah. I do I tend to get a PC someday, when I have the money and space, but I don't see myself abandoning my xbox. All I really want PC for is some of te cool games I've missed and mods for fallout/ elder scrolls.