Yeah and like, some games actually have the underlying mechanics updating 60 times per second while the graphics run at 30 frames per second, essentially (theoretically) making frame rate a moot point.
Quote from: Prime Uta on October 08, 2015, 09:47:51 PMA mixture of 120-proof frustration and being fresh off of writing two essays.it's never my intention to frustrate you, but i seem to be having a bit of trouble avoiding that lately
A mixture of 120-proof frustration and being fresh off of writing two essays.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 10:01:25 PMQuote from: Batch on October 08, 2015, 09:59:36 PMSo this is basically a debate about FPS now right?NoQuoteYou find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun.it could be fundepends on what i'm doingQuoteThe reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world.that's all well and good, but i fail to see why that means it's better objectivelyYeah and like, some games actually have the underlying mechanics updating 60 times per second while the graphics run at 30 frames per second, essentially (theoretically) making frame rate a moot point.
Quote from: Batch on October 08, 2015, 09:59:36 PMSo this is basically a debate about FPS now right?NoQuoteYou find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun.it could be fundepends on what i'm doingQuoteThe reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world.that's all well and good, but i fail to see why that means it's better objectively
So this is basically a debate about FPS now right?
You find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun.
The reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world.
Quote from: Kupo on October 08, 2015, 10:08:32 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 10:01:25 PMQuote from: Batch on October 08, 2015, 09:59:36 PMSo this is basically a debate about FPS now right?NoQuoteYou find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun.it could be fundepends on what i'm doingQuoteThe reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world.that's all well and good, but i fail to see why that means it's better objectivelyYeah and like, some games actually have the underlying mechanics updating 60 times per second while the graphics run at 30 frames per second, essentially (theoretically) making frame rate a moot point.Do you have any examples of this? As far as I know, the only cases where mechanics matter with framerate are those that are tied to it. Examples being Killer is Dead, GTAV, and the newest REmake.
So this is basically a debate about FPS now right?You find me a game with something as low as 2fps and tell me thats fun. You may as well go read a book. The reason why higher FPS is objectively better is because you are in that world, you need to move and react in a second and that reaction needs to flow with you, the lower it gets the less you feel attached to the world. Sure you could make a game with a very low FPS. But it needs a reason, and it wont work any better then any other gimmick.You cant expect someone to properly play any game that isnt an interactive book at such a slow speed.
Oh my god when did this turn into B.net gaming?
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:21:42 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 08, 2015, 05:20:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:17:55 PMQuote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 05:16:12 PMconsole gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior>no wind waker>no super metroid>no games at allall rightpfftname a good game on PC that i can't play on consoleno RTS gamesno FPS gamesKerbal Space Program
Quote from: Luciana on October 08, 2015, 05:20:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:17:55 PMQuote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 05:16:12 PMconsole gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior>no wind waker>no super metroid>no games at allall rightpfftname a good game on PC that i can't play on consoleno RTS gamesno FPS games
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:17:55 PMQuote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 05:16:12 PMconsole gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior>no wind waker>no super metroid>no games at allall rightpfft
Quote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 05:16:12 PMconsole gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior>no wind waker>no super metroid>no games at allall right
console gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior
Quote from: Citrus Snake on October 08, 2015, 05:22:21 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:21:42 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 08, 2015, 05:20:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:17:55 PMQuote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 05:16:12 PMconsole gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior>no wind waker>no super metroid>no games at allall rightpfftname a good game on PC that i can't play on consoleno RTS gamesno FPS gamesKerbal Space Programits coming to console
Quote from: Naru on October 09, 2015, 01:19:44 AMQuote from: Citrus Snake on October 08, 2015, 05:22:21 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:21:42 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 08, 2015, 05:20:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:17:55 PMQuote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 05:16:12 PMconsole gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior>no wind waker>no super metroid>no games at allall rightpfftname a good game on PC that i can't play on consoleno RTS gamesno FPS gamesKerbal Space Programits coming to consoleAfter how many years? Come on.
Quote from: Luciana on October 09, 2015, 01:20:44 AMQuote from: Naru on October 09, 2015, 01:19:44 AMQuote from: Citrus Snake on October 08, 2015, 05:22:21 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:21:42 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 08, 2015, 05:20:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 08, 2015, 05:17:55 PMQuote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 05:16:12 PMconsole gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior>no wind waker>no super metroid>no games at allall rightpfftname a good game on PC that i can't play on consoleno RTS gamesno FPS gamesKerbal Space Programits coming to consoleAfter how many years? Come on.stfu
-consoles have the expectation te game is going to run on the platform.
Quote from: BaconSheeeeeeelf👌👌 on October 09, 2015, 01:24:53 AM-consoles have the expectation te game is going to run on the platform. Not necessarily
To get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more money
or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the disc
Quote from: BaconSheeeeeeelf👌👌 on October 09, 2015, 01:24:53 AMTo get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more moneyTaking the only points that actually matter from that postNo... you don't. I don't understand why people think this. Seriously, would a little research hurt you guys? You can build a PC stronger than the current gen consoles for the same price. Quote or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the discThis is a strong point however, and I can completely understand why people wouldn't want to do that.
I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!)
Quote from: Luciana on October 09, 2015, 01:32:42 AMQuote from: BaconSheeeeeeelf👌👌 on October 09, 2015, 01:24:53 AMTo get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more moneyTaking the only points that actually matter from that postNo... you don't. I don't understand why people think this. Seriously, would a little research hurt you guys? You can build a PC stronger than the current gen consoles for the same price. Quote or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the discThis is a strong point however, and I can completely understand why people wouldn't want to do that.I should clarify. I meant if you want that PC to last a few years running games. I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!) but still a couple hundred more expensive. And with building your own, there's always the danger that you suck and the parts aren't put together right or are incompatible.
Compare the $1,400 I spent on my PC
Quote from: BaconSheeeeeeelf👌👌 on October 09, 2015, 01:35:19 AMI don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!)wowi thought that guy was supposed to be smart
Quote from: BaconSheeeeeeelf👌👌 on October 09, 2015, 01:35:19 AMQuote from: Luciana on October 09, 2015, 01:32:42 AMQuote from: BaconSheeeeeeelf👌👌 on October 09, 2015, 01:24:53 AMTo get that with a PC, you're spending a lot more moneyTaking the only points that actually matter from that postNo... you don't. I don't understand why people think this. Seriously, would a little research hurt you guys? You can build a PC stronger than the current gen consoles for the same price. Quote or you're swapping our parts all te time. I don't want to have to check recommended specs before I play a Game, just put in the discThis is a strong point however, and I can completely understand why people wouldn't want to do that.I should clarify. I meant if you want that PC to last a few years running games. I don't mean TotalBiscuit levels of insane ($5,000 PC!) but still a couple hundred more expensive. And with building your own, there's always the danger that you suck and the parts aren't put together right or are incompatible.There is that danger, but common sense researching and asking around will easily fix that problem for you. Plus, once you actually get your new rig, you're only gonna be slowly upgrading a part at a time, not completely wiping. In the long run, it saves you more money than a console ever would.
Compare having to go and research a bunch of different stuff to just walking into a shop and buying something. One is a lot more convenient.
Quote from: Zonda on October 09, 2015, 01:36:13 AMCompare the $1,400 I spent on my PCWhy?... Do people just opt to brand name top end things or what?
Quote from: Luciana on October 09, 2015, 01:38:11 AMQuote from: Zonda on October 09, 2015, 01:36:13 AMCompare the $1,400 I spent on my PCWhy?... Do people just opt to brand name top end things or what?Nah, it was nowhere near the best specs available. Australian import tax is just objectively bullshit.
Quote from: Luciana on October 09, 2015, 01:38:11 AMQuote from: Zonda on October 09, 2015, 01:36:13 AMCompare the $1,400 I spent on my PCWhy?... Do people just opt to brand name top end things or what?Nah, it was nowhere near the best specs available. Australian import tax is just objectively bullshit. Even if I had gone similar spec'd AMD it would have only been $200 cheaper at best, leaving it at $850 more expensive than a Console.
Quote from: BaconSheeeeeeelf👌👌 on October 09, 2015, 01:40:58 AMCompare having to go and research a bunch of different stuff to just walking into a shop and buying something. One is a lot more convenient.That is certainly true. That is an advantage to console playing and I completely understand it.
Why do most of you guys game on consoles as opposed to PC?
