Quote from: FatherlyNick on October 08, 2015, 05:51:14 PMmommy and daddy never forked out for an 800 gaming rig for me. I want to play games so never could commit for saving up money for it myself. I could commit 380 euros to get consoles so yeah...UhmGaming computers are cheaper than ever and you could buy one that ran the same as a PS4/Xbone and have it still be cheaper. The thousand dollar rigs you see are for idiots who probably want launch nukes and overclock their PC's.
mommy and daddy never forked out for an 800 gaming rig for me. I want to play games so never could commit for saving up money for it myself. I could commit 380 euros to get consoles so yeah...
Quote from: Prime Uta on October 08, 2015, 08:01:01 PMIf you want to go by critical acclaim, the PC version usually shapes out the best. And performing better in every way is very much relating to quality."It's better because it performs better" is circular logic, Aria, you know that.Critical acclaim is honestly the only thing you have to go buy. The general consensus is that PC gaming is better, but that doesn't make it so. That's an appeal to majority.
If you want to go by critical acclaim, the PC version usually shapes out the best. And performing better in every way is very much relating to quality.
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And we aren't having that discussion again, are we?
Do I really have to preface with "if we limit our values to that which pertain to differences in performance relating to processing capability, not in the scheme of all things on God's green Earth"?
60 is greater than 30; a 99 on a test is better than a 98 on a test. If I even specify that I'm speaking of superiority in measures of performance, your rebuttal to that statement should be focused on counter-arguing the contents of that statement. Otherwise, it's simply clouded with irrelevance.
Fuck off.
A Volkswagen Beetle is superior to a car from the Flintstones because it has better performance.
I'm sorry lads, I think I killed it. Tru shares part of the blame as well.
Well, I just had it with Luciana in this thread, and it went reasonably well. She sees where I'm coming from, mostly--why can't you?
No--you just have to be aware that you're stating an opinion. If it doesn't pertain to the scheme of all things on God's green Earth (or, in other words, objectivity), then that's what we call a subjective interpretation.It's great that you think PC gaming has advantages over console games, but that's just your opinion.
Of course--but I'm not really here to change anyone's opinion on anything.I'm just saying that PC gaming is not factually better than console gaming.
Quote from: Thunder on October 08, 2015, 08:26:22 PMI'm sorry lads, I think I killed it. Tru shares part of the blame as well.I will not be taken down with the likes of you
Quote from: Luciana on October 08, 2015, 05:53:40 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on October 08, 2015, 05:51:14 PMmommy and daddy never forked out for an 800 gaming rig for me. I want to play games so never could commit for saving up money for it myself. I could commit 380 euros to get consoles so yeah...UhmGaming computers are cheaper than ever and you could buy one that ran the same as a PS4/Xbone and have it still be cheaper. The thousand dollar rigs you see are for idiots who probably want launch nukes and overclock their PC's.A decent PC cost's at least $800.That's a lot of money for some people.
Precisely because we came to the conclusion last time that you're speaking from a philosophical standpoint. And since we've had that conversation, you should damn well know that I'm speaking in terms of tangible differences in terms of performance to judge this. That's why I'm actually a little pissed off that this conversation is coming up again, because we've already had this discussion, and we agreed on each others stances.
We even reached this conclusion last time, Verb; that if we speak in the context of a work's critical quality (that is, on the merits of which apply to its field and subjective parts such as acting, themes, etc), then quality is subjective because its contents are innately subjective. But I'm not talking about that, which should have been incredibly obvious by the fact that I even used the words "in terms of performance" to describe the quality.
And I'm not saying that PC gaming is better either. Every response I've given in this thread, besides towards you, was in argument that higher quality does not necessarily mean something is better. That's why I even cited the first OED definition of "superior", specifically so that you wouldn't interpret it as me saying it's "better". I'll even say it in the context of the question posed by Cindo: No, PC gaming is not better than consoles. It is an incredibly subjective descriptor. There are many reasons ranging from convenience and comfort, to choice in available games, what your friends have, to platitudes like "it just feels right". Choosing whether you want to use a PC or console is entirely dependent upon the values on which the individual warrants are important to him or herself.
A developer using a low FPS on purpose to make the player feel like their game is broken to fit in with a theme of brokeness (or whatever), would be pretty cool IMO.
And I am in all honesty regretful for the manner in which I typed at least half of that post, and the attitude I'd displayed in the last couple of posts I've made. I'm just angry at the fact that you've chosen to interpret my argument completely out of context and the ways in which you've responded. If you want to talk metaphysics, I'll talk metaphysics. But I expect to limit the discussion to metaphysics (heh), and I expect you not to respond with such a flippant attitude.If the point I'm making is obviously limited in scope in the first place, then respond in a way that is within the same scope.
I don't even think I used the "objectively" in the first place, just "superior" in reference to the platform's performance.
I wouldn't say it would work in general
but maybe for a quest that's fourth wall breaking; making the screen tear, or massive drops, to convey some matter that's present thematically.
tfw you agree with verbWhat else is new.A developer using a low FPS on purpose to make the player feel like their game is broken to fit in with a theme of brokeness (or whatever), would be pretty cool IMO.
Quote from: Prime Uta on October 08, 2015, 08:45:02 PMI wouldn't say it would work in generalNeither would I.But like all things, it could be awesome if executed well.Quotebut maybe for a quest that's fourth wall breaking; making the screen tear, or massive drops, to convey some matter that's present thematically.Exactly. The closest thing I can think of was the Mantis boss fight in MGS1 with the "Hideo" screen thing. That shit was cool back in the day.