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60fps is objectively best
Quote from: Braixen on October 10, 2015, 07:21:03 PM60fps is objectively bestNot if you have an artistic purpose to have 30fps.Then it can't be objectively better.
i don't see how it can be used in an artistic sense but okay
What artistic purpose would a developer have to make a game only run at 30 frames?
but they cannot be "better" or "worse" than each other.
Quote from: Braixen on October 10, 2015, 07:23:38 PMi don't see how it can be used in an artistic sense but okayQuote from: Notch's little brother on October 10, 2015, 07:23:42 PMWhat artistic purpose would a developer have to make a game only run at 30 frames? Maybe a developer wants to make a game that will evoke irrational anger into the player, and one of the methods he uses is to implement 30fps, partially because he knows a lot of gamers prefer 60, and partially to prove the thematic point that people shouldn't get irrationally angry over such stupid shit.For that purpose, 30fps is objectively better than 60fps.I could think of any number of artistic purposes, but the point is, there ARE artistic purposes.At the end of the day, frame rate is just a number. Numbers can be higher and lower than each other, but they cannot be "better" or "worse" than each other.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 10, 2015, 07:27:07 PMbut they cannot be "better" or "worse" than each other.they can1st place is better than 3rd
What would even be the point in something like that? It wouldn't invoke any irrational anger in anyone they'd just stop playing it if they didn't like how the game was capped at 30 frames.
Quote from: Citrus Snake on October 10, 2015, 07:31:10 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 10, 2015, 07:27:07 PMbut they cannot be "better" or "worse" than each other.they can1st place is better than 3rdOnly because we gave it the numbers that purpose. Did you read my post?
60 is better than 30Because that's the meaning we gave the numbers
Quote from: Citrus Snake on October 10, 2015, 07:35:00 PM60 is better than 30Because that's the meaning we gave the numbersNot if you have a reason to opt for 30 instead. I literally just came up with a reason.The only reason 60 is considered "better" is because a lot of people like it. But that doesn't make it objectively better.
Okay
It creates what is objectively a smoother experience.
Quote from: Citrus Snake on October 10, 2015, 07:37:18 PMOkayDo you understand, or are you just giving up?
60fps objectively provides a smoother image and a more fluid game, quicker response time, button input, and visual feedback.These are things you can't deny.
And by "preferable" I mean "suiting the artist's vision the best".
Quote from: Citrus Snake on October 10, 2015, 07:40:47 PM60fps objectively provides a smoother image and a more fluid game, quicker response time, button input, and visual feedback.These are things you can't deny.Yeah. I can't, and I never have. However, I can still argue that none of these things are objectively "good".If you enjoy any of those things, that's just your opinion. Your preference.It's okay to have preferences--it's not okay to state your preferences as facts.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 10, 2015, 07:39:56 PMAnd by "preferable" I mean "suiting the artist's vision the best".You keep bringing up artistic vision as if framerate is something developers use with artistic intentI get your whole artistic vision thing, but it isn't really applicable because it isn't used that way.
The fact that 60+ FPS is superior to 30 FPS isn't a personal preference.
I get your whole artistic vision thing, but it isn't really applicable because it isn't used that way.
Quote from: Citrus Snake on October 10, 2015, 07:43:21 PMI get your whole artistic vision thing, but it isn't really applicable because it isn't used that way.Never been used =/= can't be used.You people lack the imagination the industry needs.
I get your whole artistic vision thing
Yes, because the gaming industry needs more hipster pet project indie games. Like Steam isn't already flooded with those.