Quote from: CyberGama on January 17, 2015, 07:18:46 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on January 17, 2015, 07:16:24 PM

it's misogynistic garbage

lol, i'm guessing you don't like it because it has women in there and not men, thats my guess.

No

gender composition is irrelevant
the exploitation of sexuality is the issue

i don't like when sex is used as a selling point for a game
it's cheap and dirty and debauched, like a prostitute

To me sex is just barely worse than violence in terms of marketing. All too often people are afraid of sexuality but are fine with watching people get brutally killed.

Quote from: Verbatim on January 17, 2015, 07:23:40 PM

Quote from: CyberGama on January 17, 2015, 07:18:46 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on January 17, 2015, 07:16:24 PM

it's misogynistic garbage

lol, i'm guessing you don't like it because it has women in there and not men, thats my guess.

No

gender composition is irrelevant
the exploitation of sexuality is the issue

i don't like when sex is used as a selling point for a game
it's cheap and dirty and debauched, like a prostitute

To me sex is just barely worse than violence in terms of marketing. All too often people are afraid of sexuality but are fine with watching people get brutally killed.

>Games
>Real life

I get that some video games can be disturbing but if your afraid of sex like DA or ME or GTA then there is something wrong with you, it's not real life so why even bother, it's not going to ruin your life unless your one of those idiots, this is something that i hated a lot because not a lot of news reporters don't know what video game means, it's like they never played it, a video game with a few sex is not bad, and violence is not a big deal, i played halo and it had violence because i like to kill alien shit, either the news reporters needs to play a game or they just need to stop talking about it in general.

Quote from: Latsu on January 17, 2015, 07:27:14 PM

All too often people are afraid of sexuality but are fine with watching people get brutally killed.

uh, no

have you seen the outrage over games like hatred

again, the issue isn't just sex, or just violence

it's the senselessness of it all

The subjectivity of that statement is why I will never say a game/movie is garbage because of how it chooses to deal with something, I just say that I don't like it because of personal preference.  Saying to not buy a game because you dislike it or how it is advertised is selfish if the game is still a good game overall.

Quote from: CyberGama on January 17, 2015, 07:33:51 PM

>Games
>Real life

I get that some video games can be disturbing but if your afraid of sex like DA or ME or GTA then there is something wrong with you, it's not real life so why even bother, it's not going to ruin your life unless your one of those idiots, this is something that i hated a lot because not a lot of news reporters don't know what video game means, it's like they never played it, a video game with a few sex is not bad, and violence is not a big deal, i played halo and it had violence because i like to kill alien shit, either the news reporters needs to play a game or they just need to stop talking about it in general.

The thing is I just don't like some things because of how things are portrayed. Often I'll play a game that I know I'll dislike to see how it is as a game to get a somewhat objective opinion of it but that doesn't change the fact that the game has something that I personally don't like seeing in a game. I prefer for game developers and movie directors to obfuscate certain things to let the game/movie sell itself rather than appealing to a small niche.

Welcome to the future man, but still not all developers aren't like that, Bioware CD Projekt and many other great gaming companies make great games, but yea i know what your talking about, it happened to me as well.

Quote from: Latsu on January 17, 2015, 07:38:28 PM

Saying to not buy a game because you dislike it or how it is advertised is selfish if the game is still a good game overall.

i hear birth of a nation was a pretty well-crafted film for its time

i don't even eat food if it tastes good, if it violates my ethical disposition

See, thats the thing, taste it first before complaining, same goes with video games.

i mean, i apologize for skewing the topic in that direction, but i mean, this is something i'm rather passionate about and would rather not have misrepresented

street fighter iv

evil ryu is so fun

Quote from: Prime Meridia on January 17, 2015, 10:53:44 PM

I'm pretty sure that Skullgirls looks the way it does is because fucking Zone, the flash porn artist, designed most (if not all) of the characters.

well

there you go

Out of curiousity:

Say someone wanted to play Skullgirls but didn't want to promote it. Being that it's only available on XBLA, PSN, and PC, you can't buy it used. In a case like this, would you support piracy?

Quote from: Prime Meridia on January 17, 2015, 10:53:44 PM

I'm pretty sure that Skullgirls looks the way it does is because fucking Zone, the flash porn artist, designed most (if not all) of the characters.

well

there you go

Zone actually didn't design the characters but promoted the game because they knew the developers.

This is the artist for the game

Out of curiousity:

Say someone wanted to play Skullgirls but didn't want to promote it. Being that it's only available on XBLA, PSN, and PC, you can't buy it used. In a case like this, would you support piracy?

THAT

is a very good question

hmm... Yes--in that... veritably odd circumstance, I wouldn't have any qualms with someone pirating the game if they just wanted to play it, but not... "support" it. Personally, I wouldn't bother, even if I wanted to play the game, but... if someone wanted to, hey, knock yourself out.

Until someone shows to me why the game should be supported, anyway.
And, shyeah, good luck with that.

Quote from: Prime Meridia on January 17, 2015, 11:14:40 PM

Out of curiousity:

Say someone wanted to play Skullgirls but didn't want to promote it. Being that it's only available on XBLA, PSN, and PC, you can't buy it used. In a case like this, would you support piracy?

THAT

is a very good question

hmm... Yes--in that... veritably odd circumstance, I wouldn't have any qualms with someone pirating the game if they just wanted to play it, but not... "support" it. Personally, I wouldn't bother, even if I wanted to play the game, but... if someone wanted to, hey, knock yourself out.

Until someone shows to me why the game should be supported, anyway.
And, shyeah, good luck with that.

Good lord. You'd support pirating of the game that doesn't fit your agenda? You are pretty low if you believe that you should be allowed to enjoy content and fuck over the creators because you don't like what the game is about, but enjoy the game.

Edit: Verby supports piracy. Everyone pirate away!

I never said I'd support piracy in that post. I said I'd have "no qualms" with it. Not only that, I explicitly mentioned that I wouldn't do it myself. So... these are for you. They're not gonna help comprehension, but... I mean, it's something.

And what do you mean, "fuck over the creators"? What's this appeal to emotion garbage? Yes, if a creator's gonna spend his time making something as fucking deplorable as Skullgirls, then fuck them. You don't deserve support if what you created is abhorrent shit, and Skullgirls is a big heaping pile of abhorrent shit.

i went over it

i have no desire to repeat myself

Edit: Verby supports piracy. Everyone pirate away!

yes, misrepresent the argument, that's always fair

Because the fighters in that game have breasts?

makoto from street fighter has breasts, too, but you wouldn't be able to tell right away because they aren't on prominent display

IMAGINE THAT

A FEMALE CHARACTER WHO ISN'T SEXUALIZED IN ANY WAY

Quote from: Latsu on January 17, 2015, 11:25:35 PM

Edit: Verby supports piracy. Everyone pirate away!

yes, misrepresent the argument, that's always fair

Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on January 17, 2015, 11:40:04 PM

Because the fighters in that game have breasts?

makoto from street fighter has breasts, too, but you wouldn't be able to tell right away because they aren't on prominent display

IMAGINE THAT

A FEMALE CHARACTER WHO ISN'T SEXUALIZED IN ANY WAY

What about Poison? Being a trap and all?