...that you would say to Reggie's face?

Anything really. It's not his fault but the gimmicky shit needs to stop.

Festival Plaza was a mistake and you should have prevented Gamefreak from making it

Quote from: branches on February 24, 2017, 08:26:01 PM

Nothing, I don't feel like getting down-smashed into the sun.

fucking best e3

I can't wait for the Switch to flop.

I can't wait for the Switch to flop.

Why?

Quote from: Jono on February 25, 2017, 12:18:25 AM

Don't know if I ever really talked shit about Nintendo in my lifetime. I'd probably just tell him to stop with the gimmicks that nobody likes.

It's dumb shit, but you can't forget about the target audience. I'm not aware of any actual stats on this, but your average Nintendo (DS) player is probably 7 years old and doesn't care about competitive breeding or features interesting to us. They want those silly gimmicks, play with pokemon and all that jazz. 

It sucks, but these are essentially kids games with certain features, nostalgia or gameplay elements that make them attractive to adults and late teens as well. I don't like them either, but I doubt Nintendo would keep putting them in if they didn't have some pretty good idea of exactly what their kid player base wants.

Fuck kids

Quote from: branches on February 24, 2017, 08:26:01 PM

Nothing, I don't feel like getting down-smashed into the sun.

Spoiler

Nintendo fighting off progress and powerful hardware like ^

I'm not aware of any actual stats on this, but your average Nintendo (DS) player is probably 7 years old and doesn't care about competitive breeding or features interesting to us. They want those silly gimmicks, play with pokemon and all that jazz. 

I'm gonna say it's closer to 15-16, actually. Nintendo games are kid-friendly, yes, but 7-year-olds can hardly even read, so I'd say that's exaggeratedly low--especially when you consider what "average" means (you're basically saying that half of the 3DS playerbase is 4 or 5 years old... yeah, nah). I find that most little kids nowadays are more interested in playing simple, mindless games on their mother's smartphone than they are in $200 Nintendo handhelds.

The gimmicks are done because that's simply Nintendo's MO. They're not just trying to appeal to children--they genuinely believe everyone is going to find them clever, charming, and innovative, because they've always had an admirable "fun first" ethos when it comes to game development. Making a standard, competitive, gimmick-less console simply isn't the Nintendo way.

From my own experience, 9-11 years old (and younger) is exactly Nintendo's target audience. I'd honestly say that 15-16 year olds make up one of the smallest parts of Nintendo players.

Is that why small children are almost never present in any of their advertising/promotional material, while teens and young adults tend to dominate?

I think you might be imposing your personal taste on what is generally considered "for kids," and conflating that with what's "kid-friendly"--or worse; "for everybody."

Quote from: Ian on February 25, 2017, 10:36:58 AM

Every console before the Wii wasn't gimmicky.

Wrong.

Gamecube had the lunchbox build and cute little mini-discs.
N64, obviously, had the 64-bit gimmick.
The DS had the touch screen, which was extremely well-received.
Portability itself was considered a gimmick when the Game Boy was released.
The Virtual Boy was the raw definition of gimmick.

NES and SNES were made before Nintendo found their niche in the industry, because they were on top of the gaming world. Even then, those two systems were rife with gimmicky technology, like mode-7.

Nintendo has always employed gimmicks.

>64 bit
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