Top 5+ Games of 2015

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:00:57 PM

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Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 12:56:51 PM
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I'm sure they're not optional for the right reasons.
what does this even mean?
Unlocking all the characters in Super Smash Bros. is "optional," too.

I'm saying I expect the game to treat it as a coveted reward, or some shit. Maybe I'm wrong.

You are.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:01:20 PM

Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 01:00:57 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:00:25 PM
Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 12:54:11 PM
I'm sure they're not optional for the right reasons.
what does this even mean?
Unlocking all the characters in Super Smash Bros. is "optional," too.

I'm saying I expect the game to treat it as a coveted reward, or some shit. Maybe I'm wrong.
You are.

I doubt it.

DAS B00T x2 · January 02, 2016, 01:01:34 PM

I'm almost certain that Cities: Skylines and Civ BE:RT (which was just am expansion for a 2014 game) were the only 2015 releases that I played last year.

Mr. Psychologist · January 02, 2016, 01:04:14 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:00:25 PM

Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 12:54:11 PM
I'm sure they're not optional for the right reasons.
what does this even mean?
Unlocking all the characters in Super Smash Bros. is "optional," too.

I'm saying I expect the game to treat it as a coveted reward, or some shit. Maybe I'm wrong.

That wasn't the impression I got from it

They are the sort of conclusion of romance lines with various characters/love interests of geralt, it's not a sort of 'oh hey you beat this mission so...'

Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:04:35 PM

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Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:00:25 PM
Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 12:54:11 PM
I'm sure they're not optional for the right reasons.
what does this even mean?
Unlocking all the characters in Super Smash Bros. is "optional," too.

I'm saying I expect the game to treat it as a coveted reward, or some shit. Maybe I'm wrong.
You are.
I doubt it.

Well you are.
The game doesn't just treat it like some reward. It's more of a "yeah whatever you nailed Triss/Yen/Kiera. Good for you. Now carry on with the story".

Luciana · January 02, 2016, 01:05:36 PM

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Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 12:56:19 PM
...Really? Don't be stupid.
No, I believe you--I'm really sure that seeing an old guy nailing some dumb whore is super integral to the overall story.

No, you genius, I'm talking about video summaries of 1 and 2 and the story/factions that are involved in them. That way when a character pops up in the 3rd one you know who they are and what they've done instead of going "who's dis here pillik?"

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:06:38 PM

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I just don't understand why there has to be so much fucking smut in it.
There isn't even that much. It's all optional anyway, depending on your choices.
i don't trust your standards

you were the one who told me there was zero smut a long time ago
He's not wrong. It'll help you out lore wise, but you don't NEED to play them. In fact there are good summary videos that help you out with it, considering the combat in the first 2 wasn't exactly good.

Oh, okay--you thought I was still on about the first two Witcher games. I wasn't. I'm referring to the level of smut in the games, not the games themselves. I don't trust Lemon's standards when it comes to evaluating the amount of porn the game has.

Of course the first two games would help with the lore--I don't really care, though--I just hate sex scenes.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:07:16 PM

Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 01:05:36 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 12:56:19 PM
...Really? Don't be stupid.
No, I believe you--I'm really sure that seeing an old guy nailing some dumb whore is super integral to the overall story.
No, you genius, I'm talking about video summaries of 1 and 2 and the story/factions that are involved in them. That way when a character pops up in the 3rd one you know who they are and what they've done instead of going "who's dis here pillik?"

I wasn't on about that.

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:08:40 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:06:38 PM

I don't trust Lemon's standards when it comes to evaluating the amount of porn the game has.

Even though Psy, who also hates it, agrees with me?

Luciana · January 02, 2016, 01:11:28 PM

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Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 12:48:24 PM
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Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 12:41:48 PM
I just don't understand why there has to be so much fucking smut in it.
There isn't even that much. It's all optional anyway, depending on your choices.
i don't trust your standards

you were the one who told me there was zero smut a long time ago
He's not wrong. It'll help you out lore wise, but you don't NEED to play them. In fact there are good summary videos that help you out with it, considering the combat in the first 2 wasn't exactly good.
Oh, okay--you thought I was still on about the first two Witcher games. I wasn't. I'm referring to the level of smut in the games, not the games themselves. I don't trust Lemon's standards when it comes to evaluating the amount of porn the game has.

Of course the first two games would help with the lore--I don't really care, though--I just hate sex scenes.

Oh. In that regard, come into it expecting it like Game of Thrones, where tits are just out just to be there. Not much else though. The maturity of the game (I mean like the atmosphere/story/politics) is so much better than a lot of shit. Like, the big bad empire that takes over, Nilfgaard (I call em milfgaard), isn't just some empire that goes "hurr durr we conquer everything, we're evil hehe".

They actually come in to a destabilized area, capitalize on the turmoil and weakened armies, conquer, re-build, and tax the citizens. LIKE AN EMPIRE WOULD. And not some outrageous evil rules that harm the citizens.

I dunno, I thought it was a nice touch and such a breath of fresh air from the horrible stereotypes media has produced. And when they talk about war, they're not shy to talk about rape, murder, and pillaging. Something that actually happens in wars.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:12:58 PM

Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 01:08:40 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:06:38 PM
I don't trust Lemon's standards when it comes to evaluating the amount of porn the game has.
Even though Psy, who also hates it, agrees with me?

He doesn't hate it as much as I do. I'll believe it whenever I see it myself.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:14:20 PM

Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 01:11:28 PM

Oh. In that regard, come into it expecting it like Game of Thrones, where tits are just out just to be there.

So, it's the worst type of smut?

Well, thank you for at least being honest with me...

Luciana · January 02, 2016, 01:15:40 PM

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Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 01:11:28 PM
Oh. In that regard, come into it expecting it like Game of Thrones, where tits are just out just to be there.
So, it's the worst type of smut?

Well, thank you for at least being honest with me...

Worst type? You've not seen the L Word.

But no, it's not nearly as often or long on screen or camera panning to breasts as GoT is.

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:16:39 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:12:58 PM

Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:06:38 PM
I don't trust Lemon's standards when it comes to evaluating the amount of porn the game has.
Even though Psy, who also hates it, agrees with me?
He doesn't hate it as much as I do. I'll believe it whenever I see it myself.

Yeah he isn't Verb 2.0 because he isn't totally backwards, but he's still pretty against it.

99% of the nudity is entirely optional and up to you. Even if you accidentally trigger a scene it's completely skippable.

You can ask anyone who has played the game.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 02, 2016, 01:18:33 PM

My only warning about Witcher 3 is that it plays a bit differently than most games. It took me a while to get used to the combat, much less the movement.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:19:23 PM

Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 01:15:40 PM

Worst type? You've not seen the L Word.

But no, it's not nearly as often or long on screen or camera panning to breasts as GoT is.

Well, the L Word is just straight-up pornography. Game of Thrones is pretty bad, too.

I'm confused as to why you'd make the comparison if they're not nearly as bad as one another, though.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:21:02 PM

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My only warning about Witcher 3 is that it plays a bit differently than most games. It took me a while to get used to the combat, much less the movement.

I've heard from many people that the combat just flat-out sucks ass. Do they just not know how to play, then?

Luciana · January 02, 2016, 01:21:56 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:19:23 PM

Quote from: Luciana on January 02, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
Worst type? You've not seen the L Word.

But no, it's not nearly as often or long on screen or camera panning to breasts as GoT is.
Well, the L Word is just straight-up pornography. Game of Thrones is pretty bad, too.

I'm confused as to why you'd make the comparison if they're not nearly as bad as one another, though.

It's the closest thing I could think of with how casual they are in the nude scenes. It just gave me a strong GoT vibe to it.

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:22:03 PM

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My only warning about Witcher 3 is that it plays a bit differently than most games. It took me a while to get used to the combat, much less the movement.
I've heard from many people that the combat just flat-out sucks ass. Do they just not know how to play, then?

Basically.
If you have thumbs the combat works fine.

Luciana · January 02, 2016, 01:22:25 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:21:02 PM

Quote from: Prime Megaten on January 02, 2016, 01:18:33 PM
My only warning about Witcher 3 is that it plays a bit differently than most games. It took me a while to get used to the combat, much less the movement.
I've heard from many people that the combat just flat-out sucks ass. Do they just not know how to play, then?

From what I played, the combat is pretty good. It's not too easy either.

Jim · January 02, 2016, 01:28:50 PM

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Mr. Psychologist · January 02, 2016, 01:30:48 PM

The combat is a bit different yeah, but it's not clunky or unfair.
A lot of it can boil down to how you approach a fight, if you stick the right oils on your weapons and have the right potions/bombs to hand.

Also running in and spamming 'slash' will just get you killed, because you have to dodge, dance, parry, counter, roll and mix in ranged attacks too.

I mean if you play on easy you can do it with just Ser Lanceloting the lot of them but if you go any higher you do need to think a little bit before engaging.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 02, 2016, 01:31:50 PM

Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:21:02 PM

Quote from: Prime Megaten on January 02, 2016, 01:18:33 PM
My only warning about Witcher 3 is that it plays a bit differently than most games. It took me a while to get used to the combat, much less the movement.
I've heard from many people that the combat just flat-out sucks ass. Do they just not know how to play, then?

It's not bad, it's just very different. No other games really play like it, except for previous Witcher games, so there's no really frame of reference to compare it to. It's not like hopping from Call of Duty to Battlefield, if that makes sense. It takes a bit of time to become accustomed to it.

It's the most strategic live-combat game I've played tbh, and that's not hype. Shit drags in the beginning if you're not used to planning out fights.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:34:35 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 02, 2016, 01:04:14 PM

Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.

I'd like to just add that having to skip a game's content is never a good sign.

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:36:09 PM

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Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.
I'd like to just add that having to skip a game's content is never a good sign.

Then don't choose to sleep with them then. Pick different dialogue options.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:37:46 PM

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Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.
I'd like to just add that having to skip a game's content is never a good sign.
Then don't choose to sleep with them then. Pick different dialogue options.

Why is it a choice in the first place?

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:40:37 PM

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Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:34:35 PM
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 02, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.
I'd like to just add that having to skip a game's content is never a good sign.
Then don't choose to sleep with them then. Pick different dialogue options.
Why is it a choice in the first place?

Because it is. It's a part of who the characters are in such a world.

Korra · January 02, 2016, 01:41:12 PM

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Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 02, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.
I'd like to just add that having to skip a game's content is never a good sign.
Then don't choose to sleep with them then. Pick different dialogue options.
Why is it a choice in the first place?

Because that's what was written in the game's many story choices because it fits with the setting of the universe.

Verbatim · January 02, 2016, 01:42:03 PM

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Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:37:46 PM
Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:34:35 PM
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 02, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.
I'd like to just add that having to skip a game's content is never a good sign.
Then don't choose to sleep with them then. Pick different dialogue options.
Why is it a choice in the first place?
Because it is. It's a part of who the characters are in such a world.

That's stupid.

Girl of Mystery · January 02, 2016, 01:42:49 PM

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Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:37:46 PM
Quote from: Lemnator on January 02, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 02, 2016, 01:34:35 PM
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 02, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
Pretty much all of it is skippable like any other cutscene too, I can't really think of one I had to sit and watch rather than just press Square/X to skip.
I'd like to just add that having to skip a game's content is never a good sign.
Then don't choose to sleep with them then. Pick different dialogue options.
Why is it a choice in the first place?
Because it is. It's a part of who the characters are in such a world.
That's stupid.

Not even a little bit.