The World Video Game Hall of Fame - 2016 Inductees Announced

Verbatim · June 04, 2015, 11:59:21 PM

The only one that makes me raise an eyebrow is WoW, but you know, whatever.
I think a hall of fame for games has been quite overdue, so I'm happy it exists now.

Here is their stated criteria on their nomination page:

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The World Video Game Hall of Fame recognizes individual electronic games of all types—arcade, console, computer, handheld, and mobile—that meet the following criteria:

Icon-status: the game is widely recognized and remembered.
Longevity: the game is more than a passing fad and has enjoyed popularity over time.
Geographical reach: the game meets the above criteria across international boundaries.
Influence: The game has exerted significant influence on the design and development of other games, on other forms of entertainment, or on popular culture and society in general. A game may be inducted on the basis of this criterion without necessarily having met all of the first three.

Thoughts?

Jocephalopod · June 05, 2015, 12:24:23 AM

where is

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big sponge · June 05, 2015, 12:41:01 AM

As long as it doesn't become a circle jerk or tool for self promotion I'm fine with it.

I agree with your reaction to WoW being in this by the way.

Jono · June 05, 2015, 12:42:55 AM

Grand Theft Auto 3 or San Andreas should be in there

Verbatim · June 05, 2015, 12:46:37 AM

Quote from: Jono on June 05, 2015, 12:42:55 AM

Grand Theft Auto 3 or San Andreas should be in there

I feel like Vice City never gets any love. It's my favorite GTA (then again, I'm not a GTA fan).

Jono · June 05, 2015, 12:50:57 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2015, 12:46:37 AM

Quote from: Jono on June 05, 2015, 12:42:55 AM
Grand Theft Auto 3 or San Andreas should be in there
I feel like Vice City never gets any love. It's my favorite GTA (then again, I'm not a GTA fan).

I would say any one of those 3 games should be in there but I think GTA 3 should be the one.

That was one of the most revolutionary and influential games of all time.

BrenMan 94 · June 05, 2015, 01:28:09 AM

EVE should be in there.

big sponge · June 05, 2015, 01:33:11 AM

Quote from: BrenMan 94 on June 05, 2015, 01:28:09 AM

EVE should be in there.

It didn't start the trend of casualizing the MMO genre and instead fights against it. Don't hold your breath.

Flee · June 05, 2015, 02:19:18 AM

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big sponge · June 05, 2015, 02:34:11 AM

Quote from: Flee on June 05, 2015, 02:22:04 AM

Quote from: LC on June 05, 2015, 01:33:11 AM
Quote from: BrenMan 94 on June 05, 2015, 01:28:09 AM
EVE should be in there.

It didn't start the trend of casualizing the MMO genre and instead fights against it. Don't hold your breath.
EVE's a great game, but from what I can tell, this list is about those games that significantly shaped an entire genre or laid the foundations for many games to come. As far as I know, EVE didn't really do that.

The only thing WoW did was casualize the genre. Ultima and Everquest would have been better to pick if you wanted to represent the MMO genre.

Nexus · June 05, 2015, 02:41:06 AM

Superman 64

Flee · June 05, 2015, 02:43:21 AM

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big sponge · June 05, 2015, 02:44:48 AM

Quote from: Flee on June 05, 2015, 02:43:21 AM

Quote from: LC on June 05, 2015, 02:34:11 AM
Quote from: Flee on June 05, 2015, 02:22:04 AM
Quote from: LC on June 05, 2015, 01:33:11 AM
Quote from: BrenMan 94 on June 05, 2015, 01:28:09 AM
EVE should be in there.

It didn't start the trend of casualizing the MMO genre and instead fights against it. Don't hold your breath.
EVE's a great game, but from what I can tell, this list is about those games that significantly shaped an entire genre or laid the foundations for many games to come. As far as I know, EVE didn't really do that.

The only thing WoW did was casualize the genre. Ultima and Everquest would have been better to pick if you wanted to represent the MMO genre.
I'm not arguing that WoW is the best pick, though. I agree with you there. Just pointing out why I don't think EVE deserves a spot on the list (either). A great game? Yes. But one that defined and shaped a genre to the point that it became one of gaming's foremost landmarks? Not really.

I never said it should be in there. I just said that people shouldn't hold expect it to get in and threw a jab at WoW in the process.

Flee · June 05, 2015, 02:49:19 AM

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big sponge · June 05, 2015, 02:54:03 AM

Quote from: Flee on June 05, 2015, 02:49:19 AM

Quote from: LC on June 05, 2015, 02:44:48 AM
Quote from: Flee on June 05, 2015, 02:43:21 AM
Quote from: LC on June 05, 2015, 02:34:11 AM
Quote from: Flee on June 05, 2015, 02:22:04 AM
Quote from: LC on June 05, 2015, 01:33:11 AM
Quote from: BrenMan 94 on June 05, 2015, 01:28:09 AM
EVE should be in there.

It didn't start the trend of casualizing the MMO genre and instead fights against it. Don't hold your breath.
EVE's a great game, but from what I can tell, this list is about those games that significantly shaped an entire genre or laid the foundations for many games to come. As far as I know, EVE didn't really do that.

The only thing WoW did was casualize the genre. Ultima and Everquest would have been better to pick if you wanted to represent the MMO genre.
I'm not arguing that WoW is the best pick, though. I agree with you there. Just pointing out why I don't think EVE deserves a spot on the list (either). A great game? Yes. But one that defined and shaped a genre to the point that it became one of gaming's foremost landmarks? Not really.

I never said it should be in there. I just said that people shouldn't hold expect it to get in and threw a jab at WoW in the process.
Ah, fair enough.

Slightly off topic, but more games should copy some of EVEs mechanics. It would help the genre as a whole and remove some of the stale and monotonous aspects of the modern casual MMO are designed to try and cater to the lowest common denominator.

Economies that are actually controlled by the players (for the most part) and losing assets upon death are things I'd like to see in particular.

Ásgeirr · June 05, 2015, 08:15:06 AM

No Zelda and/or Minecraft?

Otherwise seems like a appropriate list.

CK97 · June 05, 2015, 09:03:16 AM

Aw no Pokemon.

Big Boss · June 05, 2015, 09:25:35 AM

Good list

Tyger · June 05, 2015, 10:06:34 AM

Where's destiny?

True Turquoise · June 05, 2015, 10:27:14 AM

I'm very surprised that The Legend of Zelda didn't get there.

Blazed Iron · June 05, 2015, 10:36:24 AM

Quake inspired a lot of other games. And where is Sonic?

PSU · June 05, 2015, 11:12:46 AM

No Halo 2? Bullshit list

big dog · June 05, 2015, 11:28:03 AM

Great list. Would be nice to see GTA on there (personal choice would be San Andreas but any of the three main GTA III games would do).

Girl of Mystery · June 05, 2015, 12:02:35 PM

Quote from: PSU on June 05, 2015, 11:12:46 AM

No Halo 2? Bullshit list

Because Halo 2 wasn't the first FPS to start the trend of "competetive" shooters. Many came before it, like Quake.

Verbatim · June 05, 2015, 12:11:43 PM

Quote from: Blaze on June 05, 2015, 10:36:24 AM

Quake inspired a lot of other games. And where is Sonic?

Doom was Quake's spiritual predecessor, was it not?

And Sonic definitely doesn't belong up there. At least not for now. Sure, he was more popular than Mario for a short period, but he never really did anything revolutionary or important (that I recall). It was just a relatively simple platforming game on a console that was advertised really well.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · June 05, 2015, 12:16:36 PM

Quote from: Flee on June 05, 2015, 02:19:18 AM

Seems like a good list so far. Would've also expected Quake I to make an appearance.

Same. At least Doom is on the list, I have a feeling it should not even have to be voted in.
Whats wrong with WoW though? Its active player count (even after 10 years) is always in the high thousands. Its a solid game with very addictive elements.

PSU · June 05, 2015, 12:23:28 PM

Quote from: Lemön on June 05, 2015, 12:02:35 PM

Quote from: PSU on June 05, 2015, 11:12:46 AM
No Halo 2? Bullshit list
Because Halo 2 wasn't the first FPS to start the trend of "competetive" shooters. Many came before it, like Quake.

Except it's the shooter that made console online gaming huge.....

Girl of Mystery · June 05, 2015, 12:26:19 PM

Quote from: PSU on June 05, 2015, 12:23:28 PM

Quote from: Lemön on June 05, 2015, 12:02:35 PM
Quote from: PSU on June 05, 2015, 11:12:46 AM
No Halo 2? Bullshit list
Because Halo 2 wasn't the first FPS to start the trend of "competetive" shooters. Many came before it, like Quake.
Except it's the shooter that made console online gaming huge.....

Except it didn't start the trend of "competetive" online shooters. It doesn't matter if consoles were late to the party.

Verbatim · June 05, 2015, 12:32:47 PM

Quote from: PSU on June 05, 2015, 12:23:28 PM

Except it's the shooter that made console online gaming huge.....

Guy, this isn't the end of the list. I imagine every year, they'll pile more games onto it, and we might see the entire Halo trilogy on there at some point. Don't you think the list is good for the first six? I mean, you can't leave out Mario, Pac-Man, Pong, and Tetris.