The new FIFA is actually great

 
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lol buying the same game each year
I'd argue that with any other sports game BUT FIFA honestly since they actually seem to be the only devs who put effort into their games.

But uhh, yeah, sports games are best bought every OTHER year.
What do they do for each game that can't be done in a simple update?
Mainly things that actually involve core gameplay mechanics being changed and re-working AI, and other things such as features with franchise and what not.

The best way to look at it is, you can put band-aids (updates) over a flaw, but it will still be there and show its ugly head. The best way to do it is to actually go back and re-work it from the root of the problem and allow for a more cohesive product.

Other things such as physics as well, cannot be fixed with simple updates.

Honestly, if you want the best example, just look at Total War Rome 2 and look at the patches it added on. While it fixes a lot of the issues, it still LOOKS like a mess and fails in comparison to the games prior, and even Attila.


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lol buying the same game each year
I'd argue that with any other sports game BUT FIFA honestly since they actually seem to be the only devs who put effort into their games.

But uhh, yeah, sports games are best bought every OTHER year.
What do they do for each game that can't be done in a simple update?
Mainly things that actually involve core gameplay mechanics being changed and re-working AI, and other things such as features with franchise and what not.

The best way to look at it is, you can put band-aids (updates) over a flaw, but it will still be there and show its ugly head. The best way to do it is to actually go back and re-work it from the root of the problem and allow for a more cohesive product.

Other things such as physics as well, cannot be fixed with simple updates.

Honestly, if you want the best example, just look at Total War Rome 2 and look at the patches it added on. While it fixes a lot of the issues, it still LOOKS like a mess and fails in comparison to the games prior, and even Attila.
Well... Technically, a patch could add new game mechanics, or re-worked AI, and just about anything else really...


 
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Well... Technically, a patch could add new game mechanics, or re-worked AI, and just about anything else really...
It can change the AI behavior to some degree, but it cannot fix the fundamental flaw it had in the very first place with the engine. Rome 2, look at it. The patches help it but it doesn't stop it from still being a shit hole.


 
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Let's be honest though guys, there is only so much a sports game can do to make new things in terms of gameplay. When you pretty much nail the gameplay to any given series, you can't REALLY do much else aside from twerks and a few other additional things.

That's not to say some games don't have fundamental flaws (Madden) and need an overhaul (if it's still getting compared to 2K5, a game made over a decade ago, something is wrong), but the games that DO nail it (such as MLB The Show) really can't do much more than sell the authenticity of their product.


 
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Thanks for posting this, I'll make sure to dismiss your other opinions in the future.


 
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Let's be honest though guys, there is only so much a sports game can do to make new things in terms of gameplay. When you pretty much nail the gameplay to any given series, you can't REALLY do much else aside from twerks and a few other additional things.

That's not to say some games don't have fundamental flaws (Madden) and need an overhaul (if it's still getting compared to 2K5, a game made over a decade ago, something is wrong), but the games that DO nail it (such as MLB The Show) really can't do much more than sell the authenticity of their product.

They can price it better?


 
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That's the real issue.


 
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Let's be honest though guys, there is only so much a sports game can do to make new things in terms of gameplay. When you pretty much nail the gameplay to any given series, you can't REALLY do much else aside from twerks and a few other additional things.

That's not to say some games don't have fundamental flaws (Madden) and need an overhaul (if it's still getting compared to 2K5, a game made over a decade ago, something is wrong), but the games that DO nail it (such as MLB The Show) really can't do much more than sell the authenticity of their product.
For the past year (or two) it feels like MLB The Show has been refining the experience to get it to near authentic levels and to be honest they're pretty damn close.
It's just missing that unpredictability, pacing, and a couple details to fully hit max potential. As of now though, I would say it's the best sports franchise out there imo.


 
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Let's be honest though guys, there is only so much a sports game can do to make new things in terms of gameplay. When you pretty much nail the gameplay to any given series, you can't REALLY do much else aside from twerks and a few other additional things.

That's not to say some games don't have fundamental flaws (Madden) and need an overhaul (if it's still getting compared to 2K5, a game made over a decade ago, something is wrong), but the games that DO nail it (such as MLB The Show) really can't do much more than sell the authenticity of their product.
For the past year (or two) it feels like MLB The Show has been refining the experience to get it to near authentic levels and to be honest they're pretty damn close.
It's just missing that unpredictability, pacing, and a couple details to fully hit max potential. As of now though, I would say it's the best sports franchise out there imo.

From what I hear The Show is easily the best out of the sports games, so I can agree with you on that.


Haha I just remembered that time we stayed at your house and you were playing NHL14 in like 480p lmao 😂😂


 
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Let's be honest though guys, there is only so much a sports game can do to make new things in terms of gameplay. When you pretty much nail the gameplay to any given series, you can't REALLY do much else aside from twerks and a few other additional things.

That's not to say some games don't have fundamental flaws (Madden) and need an overhaul (if it's still getting compared to 2K5, a game made over a decade ago, something is wrong), but the games that DO nail it (such as MLB The Show) really can't do much more than sell the authenticity of their product.
For the past year (or two) it feels like MLB The Show has been refining the experience to get it to near authentic levels and to be honest they're pretty damn close.
It's just missing that unpredictability, pacing, and a couple details to fully hit max potential. As of now though, I would say it's the best sports franchise out there imo.

From what I hear The Show is easily the best out of the sports games, so I can agree with you on that.


Haha I just remembered that time we stayed at your house and you were playing NHL14 in like 480p lmao 😂😂
It has a friggin' day/night cycle that changes with different months!
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lol NHL in comparison to almost every other sports franchise is probably the worst. Howeverrrrrrrr it's the only "good" hockey video game and it's a blast to play with friends so whatcha gonna do? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


 
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Let me just take Luciana out of this quote.

lol NHL in comparison to almost every other sports franchise is probably the worst.
It's hockey, Madden or UFC.

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Howeverrrrrrrr it's the only "good" hockey video game and it's a blast to play with friends so whatcha gonna do?

Buy it used?

Buying it new only tells EA that you support this shit, to be honest. Not tryna get preachy but that side of me comes out a lot more nowadays >.>


 
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That's the real issue.
Tell that to Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, and any other yearly releases as well.


 
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That's the real issue.
Tell that to Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, and any other yearly releases as well.

Well, I mean



I do.


 
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Let me just take Luciana out of this quote.

lol NHL in comparison to almost every other sports franchise is probably the worst.
It's hockey, Madden or UFC.

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Howeverrrrrrrr it's the only "good" hockey video game and it's a blast to play with friends so whatcha gonna do?

Buy it used?

Buying it new only tells EA that you support this shit, to be honest. Not tryna get preachy but that side of me comes out a lot more nowadays >.>
Actually a pretty good idea.


 
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Doesnt excuse it at all.


 
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MLB The Show is easily the most authentic and best looking sports game out there. I'm not even a fan of baseball and was amazed by how amazing it was back in MLB 13.


 
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I'm gonna buy FIFA 16 new because it's obvious I get wet for the sport. This much is obvious.

I got FIFA 13 and 14 used IIRC correctly, and FIFA 15 in the Last of Us PS4 bundle.

No online passes anymore either, so used is a good option. Still, I know I will get my own money's worth out of it given the hours I sink into it, so I will get it.


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Let's be honest though guys, there is only so much a sports game can do to make new things in terms of gameplay. When you pretty much nail the gameplay to any given series, you can't REALLY do much else aside from twerks and a few other additional things.

That's not to say some games don't have fundamental flaws (Madden) and need an overhaul (if it's still getting compared to 2K5, a game made over a decade ago, something is wrong), but the games that DO nail it (such as MLB The Show) really can't do much more than sell the authenticity of their product.
They could start by not releasing the same game every year, because there's nothing they can do to it.


 
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They could start by not releasing the same game every year, because there's nothing they can do to it.
If you're gonna say that then you need to hold every other game in that medium accountable as well

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Simply put, it would never happen


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They could start by not releasing the same game every year, because there's nothing they can do to it.
If you're gonna say that then you need to hold every other game in that medium accountable as well

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Simply put, it would never happen
There's nothing wrong with yearly releases. Releasing the same thing every year as a yearly release is the problem.