The Destiny Community is shocked that Bungie has abandoned them

I can't really remember why was this forum created again? Who could possibly have seen this coming? If only we had some way of predicting this... perhaps a pattern of behavior?

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Seriously though, thoughts regarding the State of the Game Bungie put out, and community backlash leading to, and coming from the article?

I'm not surprised. In fact I think I called this shit in my message to Bungie video awhile back when I had my YouTube channel. The same thing is happening to the Destiny community much like what happened to the Halo community. Gaming has turned into a multi-million dollar business to where the only thing that matters now is just money, not even the quality of the product or the welfare of your consumers, and I wish it was just with the video game industry.

I was already getting fed up with the seasonal model and lack of care for the core playlists, and Lightfall was ass, but that SotG was potentially the final nail in the coffin. Unless TFS is amazing that will be my jumping off point. I won't be surprised if other people drop off after TFS too.

Yeah it's real bad. It's painfully obvious they are pocketing most of the money D2 is generating from Eververse as well as the expansions to bankroll Marathon and whatever other stuff they are doing. I'm an addict so I'll stick with it at least until The Final Shape, but they are going to have to pull something out of their ass to keep me past that.

Bungie hasn't even been Bungie for over a decade at this point.  Every talented person that ever worked there peaced out a long time ago.  They're the RareWare of the 00's.  A stranger wearing the skin of an old friend.

marathon forum so post where i want

Bungie hasn't even been Bungie for over a decade at this point.  Every talented person that ever worked there peaced out a long time ago.  They're the RareWare of the 00's.  A stranger wearing the skin of an old friend.

I mean, no. I actually really enjoyed Destiny 2. Their raids are some of the best experiences I've had in gaming and day-one contest mode raiding is incredibly fun.

They are definitely abandoning the game NOW, though, in favor of whatever else they have in the pipeline. It's clear they are siphoning the money D2 is making into whatever else they are making. It's definitely not going toward game stability, new maps, quality storytelling, etc.

I mean, no.

What year do you think the leads on all of the Halo projects left Bungie?

All you have to do is look at the pictures of the staff from 2007 and compare to the most recent ones to see that yes, all of them left long ago.

I lost all respect for Bungie when they fired Marty for doing his job.
How dare a composer make music for our product?!

 Recently watched a presentation of their current CEO (I think its a video from like 2015) and he said "Speed is more important than quality"

Now Baldur's Gate 3 was being criticized by some AAA devs because how dare they launch a finished game in 2023! Over-delivering! This industry was going down the shitter for a while, I think we reached the stinkiest shits at this point.

I lost all respect for Bungie when they fired Marty for doing his job.
How dare a composer make music for our product?!

 Recently watched a presentation of their current CEO (I think its a video from like 2015) and he said "Speed is more important than quality"

Now Baldur's Gate 3 was being criticized by some AAA devs because how dare they launch a finished game in 2023! Over-delivering! This industry was going down the shitter for a while, I think we reached the stinkiest shits at this point.

Having a successful game nowadays that has been crafted together by people that actually care about their game is now seen as asinine by AAA developers. Just look at all the Ubishit employees trying to dunk Elden Ring when it was released.

I mean, no.

What year do you think the leads on all of the Halo projects left Bungie?

All you have to do is look at the pictures of the staff from 2007 and compare to the most recent ones to see that yes, all of them left long ago.

Christopher Barrett is still there, I heard he recently did a guest spot on Alex Seropian's podcast The Fourth Curtain and spoke about some stuff. He's actually game director for Marathon which gives me some hope for the title. All around, Marathon seems to be more in line with what we were hoping for from Destiny, but it's also probably going to rely on mechanics ripped straight from other extraction shooters, which is a big disappointment.

Now Baldur's Gate 3 was being criticized by some AAA devs because how dare they launch a finished game in 2023!

This isn't actually the case, IGN just put out an inflammatory headline to get Gamers riled up. It's based on a tweet about how the conditions and dev cycle behind BG3 were an anomaly and something within the wider AAA space would have to change to make more games like it possible. IGN made it sound like when those shithead Ubisoft devs were shitting on Elden Ring last year but this is a bit different.

Now Baldur's Gate 3 was being criticized by some AAA devs because how dare they launch a finished game in 2023!

This isn't actually the case, IGN just put out an inflammatory headline to get Gamers riled up. It's based on a tweet about how the conditions and dev cycle behind BG3 were an anomaly and something within the wider AAA space would have to change to make more games like it possible. IGN made it sound like when those shithead Ubisoft devs were shitting on Elden Ring last year but this is a bit different.

Developers know that gamers are willing to play fewer good games a year in order to avoid playing more bad games. Publishers continue to demand annual releases and for games to receive a Hollywood style hype train. The difference is in Hollywood the hype train begins once the movie is at least finished with principal photography and usually after the first rough cut has been made. In gaming it's unsustainable because it begins before there's any way of knowing whether or not the game will actually be coming out any time soon or if the product they're advertising is the product that will actually be delivered, which is a big part of the reason Marty lost his job. He was upset when Activision put out the first Destiny trailer because it did not line up with Bungie's vision of the game, and he was very vocal about it publicly.

I mean, no.

What year do you think the leads on all of the Halo projects left Bungie?

All you have to do is look at the pictures of the staff from 2007 and compare to the most recent ones to see that yes, all of them left long ago.

I honestly don't care if the Halo Bungie is the same as the Destiny Bungie. I was more so responding and saying that the team running Destiny was legitimately putting in the effort and gave a shit. Season of Arrivals, Chosen, Opulence, etc. were all bangers. It's on life support now, but wasn't always.

Witch Queen to me felt like the last hurrah for Destiny. Everything since then has been "vaguely adequate" at best but all largely forgettable with a very "minimum viable product" quality to it. Even then the fatigue with the seasonal model was starting to set in around Chosen/Splicer. And Bungie have made clear that they're committing to the seasonal model, and that putting any effort into the core playlists (beyond bloating it with Battlegrounds) would take resources away from that. As long as people continue buying the Annual Pass every year I don't see that changing sadly.

Witch Queen to me felt like the last hurrah for Destiny. Everything since then has been "vaguely adequate" at best but all largely forgettable with a very "minimum viable product" quality to it. Even then the fatigue with the seasonal model was starting to set in around Chosen/Splicer. And Bungie have made clear that they're committing to the seasonal model, and that putting any effort into the core playlists (beyond bloating it with Battlegrounds) would take resources away from that. As long as people continue buying the Annual Pass every year I don't see that changing sadly.

I find myself often wondering if we'll ever get another patrol area as varied and interesting as the ones from long ago. The standard has long been three large areas each with one lost sector. I very sincerely hope that the area added in the final shape will feel more holistic, like the EDZ or Cosmodrome. To say the least I have been bored with the seasonal model ever since they abandoned trying to make interesting and engaging encounters for each season decided "fuck it make it a strike with a twist". Black Armory forges may have been lacking in terms of depth but at least it was something different to do with your time, and more importantly it still felt like Destiny. I haven't really felt that way about seasonal content in the last three years.

ok so what you're telling me is that there's going to be an offshoot forum that will be created once the D2 community gets dropped like a bad habit and... wait

ok so what you're telling me is that there's going to be an offshoot forum that will be created once the D2 community gets dropped like a bad habit and... wait

Sounds exciting, I can't wait.

ok so what you're telling me is that there's going to be an offshoot forum that will be created once the D2 community gets dropped like a bad habit and... wait

The drama between tomy fotnite and grey wolf in the first few months of the new forum gonna be legendary 😩

ok so what you're telling me is that there's going to be an offshoot forum that will be created once the D2 community gets dropped like a bad habit and... wait

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ok so what you're telling me is that there's going to be an offshoot forum that will be created once the D2 community gets dropped like a bad habit and... wait

octag8n

st8psign... no that's stupid

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ok so what you're telling me is that there's going to be an offshoot forum that will be created once the D2 community gets dropped like a bad habit and... wait

octag8n

st8psign... no that's stupid

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I'm never gonna stop advocating for a Septagon raid night if we can get 6 people down to run one. We can get drunk or stoned and make a time out of it.

You either die a Hero or live long enough to become a villain.

Bungie used to be a cool kid on the block when it came to game developers and since their release from Microsoft and their deal with Activition and Sony  they just became another Triple A dev

I can't really forgive Bungo for how they treated Marty and Joe and now Salvatory.
Makes me wonder just what is left of Jason Jone's social circle after he burned everyone.



That said, I will probably get Marathon. For as bad as Bungie is, they are still somehow the only company with solid gameplay that doesn't feel like its held together by duct tape/ made in a 1st year student Unity engine game.
Crazy when Destiny feels more like Halo than Halo Infinite.
Shows what knowing a game engine does.

I'm never gonna stop advocating for a Septagon raid night if we can get 6 people down to run one. We can get drunk or stoned and make a time out of it.

My discord is VienQuitonm if you ever need it.

I'm never gonna stop advocating for a Septagon raid night if we can get 6 people down to run one. We can get drunk or stoned and make a time out of it.

My discord is VienQuitonm if you ever need it.

  I am debating joining discord

https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-devs-say-atmosphere-is-soul-crushing-amid-layoffs-cuts-and-fear-of-total-sony-takeover

Big oof, sounds like the heads on top know they're in a sink or swim scenario and that Sony is literally not any better than Microsoft when it comes killing off developers they acquire.

https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-devs-say-atmosphere-is-soul-crushing-amid-layoffs-cuts-and-fear-of-total-sony-takeover

Big oof, sounds like the heads on top know they're in a sink or swim scenario and that Sony is literally not any better than Microsoft when it comes killing off developers they acquire.

https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-devs-say-atmosphere-is-soul-crushing-amid-layoffs-cuts-and-fear-of-total-sony-takeover

Big oof, sounds like the heads on top know they're in a sink or swim scenario and that Sony is literally not any better than Microsoft when it comes killing off developers they acquire.

It all went downhill after Staten and Marty left.
Is it really nostalgia or was it objectively better back then?