Convince me to play Witcher 3

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I bought Witcher 2 on Steam a long time ago, played it for a day, and gave it up. I can't remember specifics, but it felt clunky overall. The alchemy/potion thing involved a lot of menu surfing, which I hated. Combat and story didn't seem very fun.

Witcher 3 is widely recognized as fantastic, and with the GotY out I figured I might give it a shot. Was I completely wrong about Witcher 2? Should I give 3 a shot?


 
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It has tits and fucking--that's all gamers want these days, right?


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It has tits and fucking--that's all gamers want these days, right?

That actually put it off for me, too. By the time I stopped playing I had encountered 5 women you could "romance".


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It has tits and fucking--that's all gamers want these days, right?

No put in political messaging and unnecessary minority characters


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It's a bit dumbed down, I mean streamlined, from The Witcher 2. So it was easier for a lot of people to get into. If you don't want to see the sex scenes, skip them, or don't take part in them. It is a good game. Very long, plenty of side quests that are meaningful, great story. Combat is fun, but you'll find others who don't like it. The game has two expansions. Also very good. That's about all I can say. If you can handle the combat, I'm sure you'll like it.


 
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Ignoring Verb and his black and white view of if it hits one mark, it's automatically bad because lol tits. Game of Thrones is also shit because of that.

It has better combat than TW2 thank god

The graphics are phenominal

The music is phenomenal

The writing puts every other RPG in this year or the last to shame to the point even the side quests have more depth than the main stories of other RPG's

Your choices in the game may or may not come out the way you intend them to come out, showing not everything is how it seems

It's not shy about the horrors of war (pillaging, hanging, rape, etc)

The invading empire isn't painted out as some evil bad faction who wants to kill everyone. They actually act like an empire and tax their citizens and help rebuild like a proper empire actually WOULD. This is one of the reasons I honestly fell in love with the game. It avoids the shittiest tropes we've grown used to.

And a bunch of other tiny things. The game is just fantastic.
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Comparing any games combat to Dark Souls is rather silly since that's all Dark Souls really focuses on tbh. And even then, the combat in DS3 isn't that amazing.


 
 
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tbh if you haven't played it already without good reason then you've already made up your mind


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tbh if you haven't played it already without good reason then you've already made up your mind

I'm not sure what that means. I haven't decided against it, I just never got around to playing it when it came out.


 
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They just go for different styles of combat, especially the parrying and spells. Dark Souls is roll away heaven, and the 3rd one made it so horribly OP and not punishing enough.

And yeah, there are some great quests in TW3. Idk how long you played into it, but invest more time in it.


 
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Don't play it, it's not a good game, you won't enjoy it.


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I never played the first Witcher, and the second one just felt off-putting to me.  I finished the tutorial/siege level and put it away.

I bought Witcher 3 because my friend would not stop hyping it up to me, and the game did look pretty good.  At first, the combat was irritating to work with, so I turned the game off for a day.  I went back in after clearing my head, and I didn't put the game down since then, even playing it alongside newer releases like Arkham Knight.  I was truly blown away by how much depth there was in the game, to the point where the smallest side quest was fleshed out, and you could actually feel for minor characters that may only be involved for that one quest.  The character building is done really well, even for someone like me who is pretty much a newbie when it comes to the Witcher universe.

The environment is absolutely stunning, both in the untouched countryside and in the gritty, bloody and muddy war-stricken areas.  The soundtrack is great.  The boss fights and monster hunts are pretty good, requiring you to chug the proper potions and add oils to make your blade stronger against certain enemies if you want to even have a chance at surviving.

And the DLC is terrific.  Hearts of Stone had a good, rather emotional story while Blood and Wine felt like a great send-off.


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It's a really, really fun game that you can waste hours playing and easily get lost in. That's all anyone needs to say about it. I'd strongly recommend it.
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The gameplay's solid, but you're only going to enjoy it if you're getting into it for the story.

I don't think I've played another game where such evident care by the writers was given to the world of the game.


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I was trying to play it while playing bloodborne. Combat is not as good as i remembered and the lock on was finicky as hell.

Everything else was great from what i remember tho. Im gonna pick it up after i beat bloodborne... eventually


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With all the circlejerking around it, I've been avoiding picking it up. The obnoxious fanbase has put me off wanting to play it.

I guess I understand now why verb hated and refused to play Halo for the longest time.


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Dunno why people complain about the combat. It's actually quite layered once you get over the learning curve.

But anyway, idk what else to say that hasn't already been said. It's up there as one of the best games of the decade so far.


 
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With all the circlejerking around it, I've been avoiding picking it up. The obnoxious fanbase has put me off wanting to play it.

I guess I understand now why verb hated and refused to play Halo for the longest time.
Sorry, but sometimes this bugs me. Saying people are circlejerking when a game is both critically acclaimed across the review and player base board, usually means it's actually REALLY fucking good, and not people just obsessing over the next hot meme like Undertale. Especially when its expansion, Blood and Wine, beats out any other RPG this year for GoTY and is basically counted as a new game in of itself.

The mindset of "just because it's popular and everyone loves it, I'M not gonna love it!" without even trying it out, is stupid enough as it is.
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Sorry, but sometimes this bugs me. Saying people are circlejerking when a game is both critically acclaimed across the review and player base board, usually means it's actually REALLY fucking good, and not people just obsessing over the next hot meme like Undertale. Especially when its expansion, Blood and Wine, beats out any other RPG this year for GoTY and is basically counted as a new game in of itself.
But Undertale was critically acclaimed across the board too, right? Obviously they're two vastly different games, but what about Undertale's success makes it a meme worth disregarding and not Witcher 3?

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The mindset of "just because it's popular and everyone loves it, I'M not gonna love it!" without even trying it out, is stupid enough as it is.
Is it that stupid when the general populace as a whole doesn't have the greatest track record when it comes to making things popular? Call of Duty. Justin Bieber. Bayformers. Kardashians.

I don't think it's that stupid to be skeptical, or even annoyed.


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Witcher 3 is one of my all time favorite rpgs, and I fucking hated the second one.


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I've tried getting into it a couple times and just can't. Idk what it is but I get bored after a couple hours. I might try it again during Christmas break but probably not.


 
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But Undertale was critically acclaimed across the board too, right? Obviously they're two vastly different games, but what about Undertale's success makes it a meme worth disregarding and not Witcher 3?
Might not be the best example, but Undertale at first was amazingly received for what it did, before being blown out of control by the Tumblr crowd, which is how it went so viral.

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Is it that stupid when the general populace as a whole doesn't have the greatest track record when it comes to making things popular? Call of Duty. Justin Bieber. Bayformers. Kardashians.
Of all those listed, you only gave me one video game, which is held to a standard far differently than the others listed. Call of Duty I'm sure everyone has tried, and yeah I'd say give it a shot before you end up hating it. Only problem is they all play exactly the same, and that's why everyone hates it now. We've already all played it and know what to expect.

But when things such as writing, world building, and character development are the top things something gets praised for, across all boards, it's something at least looking into, rather than disregarding as a Call of Duty tier of popular. It's all about context.


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Game of Thrones is also shit because of that.
Agreed, the producers should have focused more on the troy and characters who were actually from the books, rather than focusing on pointless nude and sex scenes.


 
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Game of Thrones is also shit because of that.
Agreed, the producers should have focused more on the troy and characters who were actually from the books, rather than focusing on pointless nude and sex scenes.
You completely took what I said out of context as if I actually meant that.

If you want them to focus on characters from the books, have fun learning a bunch of convoluted stuff that spans for freaking ever.


 
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Of all those listed, you only gave me one video game, which is held to a standard far differently than the others listed.
The point is that they all cater to the lowest common denominator. That's the only reason things ever get popular--because they appeal to the widest possible demographic. In order to appeal to the widest possible demographic, you must compromise some creative potential, because not everyone's going to like what you have to offer. You can't take very many artistic "risks."

The problem here (obviously) is that there are a lot of niche gamers out there who'd rather developers take creative risks than appeal to the widest demographic--so they tend to avoid playing mainstream games, because they already know through sheer logic that it's most likely not going to contain anything that's going to "challenge" them artistically.

Therefore, when a popular game comes out, it makes perfect sense for that type of consumer to be skeptical, uninterested, or even annoyed. There are some things you don't need to try before you know you like it. If you can't do that, then you need to explore your interests more.

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But when things such as writing, world building, and character development are the top things something gets praised for, across all boards, it's something at least looking into, rather than disregarding as a Call of Duty tier of popular. It's all about context.
I agree, but there's still the issue of mismatched tastes. If you know you tend to disagree with the vast majority of people on everything, why in the world would you take their word for it?


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Interesting perspective from (surprisingly) a YouTube comment for a review of the indie game Inside:

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The perfect 10s come from a deep insecurity a lot of games journalists have about the medium. Instead of embracing games as a unique medium that offers its own kind of experiences, they feel bad that they are reporting on such an unestablished medium, and want to justify it by promoting games that they think are "grown up".
This is why there's so much love in games journalism for walking simulators, even though they aren't well liked by their audiences- they oftentimes try to feel grown up by emulating what successful works in other mediums do, which ironically makes them actually very juvenile.
Look at the full slogs of "Dear Esther" or "Gone Home", both of which are barely games, desperately clinging to narrative gimmicks to try to impress those who see games as childish. It's a deep disrespect of video games as a medium, which while I doubt most gamers have thought about it like that, they almost certainly feel it when playing these "games". There's a reason most people find these kinds of try-hard art "games" distasteful, and it's because those kinds of games seem almost embarrassed to have gameplay, preferring to replace meaningful player interaction with "adult" elements from more established mediums.ο»Ώ

OT: I did get the game and I just killed the griffon. Combat still feels clunky, movement has a weird delay, and there's still a fair amount of menu surfing, but it's good so far. I know I'm still in the tutorial section, though.


 
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I'd say you need to explore your interests more as well if your first instincts are to dislike something simply because a lot of people like it. Seems ironic. I try to come in with an open mind to almost everything, and a lot of times try to come at it with a non biased point of view.

And if you tend to disagree with almost everything a lot of people like, I'd say you should also take a look at your own stance and see why you dislike it. Do you dislike it because you genuinely have seen countless flaws and dislikes repetitively in these things? Or are you letting your emotions and preconceived judgments dictate your mind? This is in general, not in regards to you.

I should also note that when I say "try it", I don't always mean hands on. In today's day in age, you can simply youtube gameplay/lets plays and get the full view of what you'll be getting your hands on. In terms of reviews, I only trust around 3 channels with those, and even then, reviews are only ever useful if you're on the fence. They never helped people who were for sure going to get something and try it out.

But I digress.


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Game of Thrones is also shit because of that.
Agreed, the producers should have focused more on the troy and characters who were actually from the books, rather than focusing on pointless nude and sex scenes.
You completely took what I said out of context as if I actually meant that.

If you want them to focus on characters from the books, have fun learning a bunch of convoluted stuff that spans for freaking ever.
Not every character from the book has to be in the show, but it would be nice to see the scenes how they actually happened. For example in the book Renly was telling Ned that he would be a better choice for a king to due the people loving him a hell of a lot more than his brother. In the show it just made him out to be a selfish asshole. Hell even Cersei in the book was trying to suddce Ned into ruling until Joff came of age. In the show that scene for some odd reason was butchered.

Then for characters Young Griff's story line would be a hell of a lot more interesting to watch than every nude scene and those scenes with that pointless whore known as Ros.

But hey, why have a story worth watching when we can have great moments like "You want a good girl, but you need the bad pussy" and seeing Renly getting head from Ser Loras.
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