So when is the Halo 5 BTB beta releasing?

Sandtrap · January 03, 2015, 07:27:06 PM

YFW this is the Halo game to finally remove vehicle combat in MP because it's been steadily growing shittier with each new installation.

Septy · January 03, 2015, 08:02:31 PM

343i has been moving away from BTB unfortunately.

alphy · January 04, 2015, 01:17:09 AM

Quote from: Septy on January 03, 2015, 08:02:31 PM

343i has been moving away from BTB unfortunately.

:(

alphy · January 04, 2015, 01:18:54 AM

yeah I love btb

I wanna play CE Btb but it like never shows up and if it does it always gets out-voted by shitty halo 2 classic or 4

Assassin 11D7 · January 04, 2015, 01:28:29 AM

Quote from: Alphy on January 04, 2015, 01:18:54 AM

yeah I love btb

I wanna play CE Btb but it like never shows up and if it does it always gets out-voted by shitty halo 2 classic or 4

Get Halo PC

alphy · January 04, 2015, 01:34:53 AM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 04, 2015, 01:28:29 AM

Quote from: Alphy on January 04, 2015, 01:18:54 AM
yeah I love btb

I wanna play CE Btb but it like never shows up and if it does it always gets out-voted by shitty halo 2 classic or 4
Get Halo PC

I used to have it but then stuff happened and now it's gone

are people still playing on it? do you have it?

Assassin 11D7 · January 04, 2015, 01:45:51 AM

Quote from: Alphy on January 04, 2015, 01:34:53 AM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 04, 2015, 01:28:29 AM
Quote from: Alphy on January 04, 2015, 01:18:54 AM
yeah I love btb

I wanna play CE Btb but it like never shows up and if it does it always gets out-voted by shitty halo 2 classic or 4
Get Halo PC

I used to have it but then stuff happened and now it's gone

are people still playing on it? do you have it?

Like 2000 a day iirc. Yes

True Turquoise · January 04, 2015, 03:23:46 AM

If they get rid of BTB oh boy will I be unhappy.

Sprungli · January 04, 2015, 10:51:26 AM

Not sure, 343 have said that the current beta is just for arena MP, the fact they have specified that indicates there'll be a beta for BTB as well. Tbh I suspect they are going to have 16v16 BTB like Battlefield, two birds one stone really if they decide to make BTB something to really shout about as well as a fan favourite

Mattie G Indahouse · January 04, 2015, 10:54:19 AM

Quote from: Sprungli on January 04, 2015, 10:51:26 AM

Not sure, 343 have said that the current beta is just for arena MP, the fact they have specified that indicates there'll be a beta for BTB as well. Tbh I suspect they are going to have 16v16 BTB like Battlefield, two birds one stone really if they decide to make BTB something to really shout about as well as a fan favourite

With the power of the Xbone I see no reason why it would be 8v8. The only thing they have to two is have another BTB playlist that's 8v8 for the older fans.

BaconShelf · January 04, 2015, 11:11:13 AM

I'm petty sure they said we're getting 32 player matches somewhere. Not as good as BF4 on 64 players, but 32 will be awesome for vehicle warfare. I just hope that this pandering to the competitive community doesn't make them put a lesser focus on BTB. I wish we had at least one gametype like Invasion or Dominion in the beta.

Deleted · January 04, 2015, 11:26:44 AM

They probably wont because 3Fail3Idiocracy wants to appeal to MLGay and the tourneyfag Halo 3 fanboys and make the game unfun for anyone who isn't sexualy aroused by the number 50

General Trollius · January 04, 2015, 12:16:17 PM

Just get Call of Duty, it's the same thing and yes I've played both. The concept is cool but it's all ruined by the fact you don't need to aim anymore.

Seriously I aimed at the floor and manage to kill someone, and it's pretty consistence too. I see other players doing the same thing when kill cam is on. It's like there's no purpose of being a skilled player anymore.

See you guys on BF4, atleast there you have to aim AT the player. Not have your hand held and given magical curving bullets.

Deleted · January 04, 2015, 12:19:06 PM

Quote from: Kaiser on January 04, 2015, 12:16:17 PM

Just get Call of Duty, it's the same thing and yes I've played both. The concept is cool but it's all ruined by the fact you don't need to aim anymore.

Seriously I aimed at the floor and manage to kill someone, and it's pretty consistence too. I see other players doing the same thing when kill cam is on. It's like there's no purpose of being a skilled player anymore.

See you guys on BF4, atleast there you have to aim AT the player. Not have your hand held and given magical curving bullets.

>2015
>Trusting the broken Halo kill-cams
>Implying Brokenfailure 4 takes any skill
>Implying Brokenfailure 4 has working hit detection

g💚jira · January 04, 2015, 12:19:07 PM

Quote from: Kaiser on January 04, 2015, 12:16:17 PM

Just get Call of Duty, it's the same thing and yes I've played both. The concept is cool but it's all ruined by the fact you don't need to aim anymore.

Seriously I aimed at the floor and manage to kill someone, and it's pretty consistence too. I see other players doing the same thing when kill cam is on. It's like there's no purpose of being a skilled player anymore.

See you guys on BF4, atleast there you have to aim AT the player. Not have your hand held and given magical curving bullets.

This entire post lmao

OT: BTB beta is unlikely, but apparently a focus on large scale combat is still going to be in the game.

Deleted · January 04, 2015, 12:22:57 PM

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Toggle crouch is communism

Fucking NeoGaf I swear one of these days...

g💚jira · January 04, 2015, 12:25:59 PM

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Toggle crouch is communism

Fucking NeoGaf I swear one of these days...

Toggle crouch is for non Gandhi hopping casuals

Are YOU a non Gandhi hopping casual?

Deleted · January 04, 2015, 12:29:50 PM

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Toggle crouch is communism

Fucking NeoGaf I swear one of these days...

Toggle crouch is for non Gandhi hopping casuals

Are YOU a non Gandhi hopping casual?

Gandhi can kill himself and fuck an acidic cactus in Hell. People like him suck all of the fun out of Halo and are the reason the Forge/Custom Game community is dying off to this E-Sports crap.

g💚jira · January 04, 2015, 12:35:59 PM

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Quote from: GodspeedSnowjira! on January 04, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 04, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
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Toggle crouch is communism

Fucking NeoGaf I swear one of these days...

Toggle crouch is for non Gandhi hopping casuals

Are YOU a non Gandhi hopping casual?

Gandhi can kill himself and fuck an acidic cactus in Hell. People like him suck all of the fun out of Halo and are the reason the Forge/Custom Game community is dying off to this E-Sports crap.

But the E-Sports crap is why we finally got a Halo game that doesn't [fully] have hold your hand aim assists and an all round deadly weapon sandbox...

Spoiler

Speaking of Forge, when I checked up on H2A there were a lot of cool new additions to the system, but I never saw any custom maps with it. Did the online problems just murder Forgehub or something?

Sandtrap · January 04, 2015, 01:10:59 PM

Quote from: GodspeedSnowjira! on January 04, 2015, 12:35:59 PM

Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 04, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: GodspeedSnowjira! on January 04, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 04, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
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Toggle crouch is communism

Fucking NeoGaf I swear one of these days...

Toggle crouch is for non Gandhi hopping casuals

Are YOU a non Gandhi hopping casual?

Gandhi can kill himself and fuck an acidic cactus in Hell. People like him suck all of the fun out of Halo and are the reason the Forge/Custom Game community is dying off to this E-Sports crap.

But the E-Sports crap is why we finally got a Halo game that doesn't [fully] have hold your hand aim assists and an all round deadly weapon sandbox...

Spoiler
Speaking of Forge, when I checked up on H2A there were a lot of cool new additions to the system, but I never saw any custom maps with it. Did the online problems just murder Forgehub or something?

Forge has been in decline since Reach Goji. Forge and customs are inherently tied together. If a forger makes a map and nobody plays it then why bother making a map?

If nobody bothers making cool maps then why bother playing customs?

He's dead, Jim.

BaconShelf · January 04, 2015, 01:14:06 PM

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Quote from: GodspeedSnowjira! on January 04, 2015, 12:35:59 PM
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Quote from: GodspeedSnowjira! on January 04, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 04, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
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Toggle crouch is communism

Fucking NeoGaf I swear one of these days...

Toggle crouch is for non Gandhi hopping casuals

Are YOU a non Gandhi hopping casual?

Gandhi can kill himself and fuck an acidic cactus in Hell. People like him suck all of the fun out of Halo and are the reason the Forge/Custom Game community is dying off to this E-Sports crap.

But the E-Sports crap is why we finally got a Halo game that doesn't [fully] have hold your hand aim assists and an all round deadly weapon sandbox...

Spoiler
Speaking of Forge, when I checked up on H2A there were a lot of cool new additions to the system, but I never saw any custom maps with it. Did the online problems just murder Forgehub or something?

Forge has been in decline since Reach Goji. Forge and customs are inherently tied together. If a forger makes a map and nobody plays it then why bother making a map?

If nobody bothers making cool maps then why bother playing customs?

He's dead, Jim.

As a guy who spends a lot of time in forge, I can verify this. It sucks the fun out of a map when you know it's very unlikely that people will use it. Especially when you finally get a lobby together and people just want to play the same old shit over again.

Sprungli · January 04, 2015, 02:14:36 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on January 04, 2015, 10:54:19 AM

Quote from: Sprungli on January 04, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Not sure, 343 have said that the current beta is just for arena MP, the fact they have specified that indicates there'll be a beta for BTB as well. Tbh I suspect they are going to have 16v16 BTB like Battlefield, two birds one stone really if they decide to make BTB something to really shout about as well as a fan favourite
With the power of the Xbone I see no reason why it would be 8v8. The only thing they have to two is have another BTB playlist that's 8v8 for the older fans.

Exactly, 16v16 isn't over the top and I think bigger maps would suit Halo, ffs that was the exact thing that was so unique about Halo CE when it was first shown, the fact the maps in the campaign were so open

Assassin 11D7 · January 04, 2015, 02:41:59 PM

Where are my space battles Franky, you fuck?

Mattie G Indahouse · January 04, 2015, 03:00:14 PM

Quote from: Sprungli on January 04, 2015, 02:14:36 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on January 04, 2015, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on January 04, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Not sure, 343 have said that the current beta is just for arena MP, the fact they have specified that indicates there'll be a beta for BTB as well. Tbh I suspect they are going to have 16v16 BTB like Battlefield, two birds one stone really if they decide to make BTB something to really shout about as well as a fan favourite
With the power of the Xbone I see no reason why it would be 8v8. The only thing they have to two is have another BTB playlist that's 8v8 for the older fans.
Exactly, 16v16 isn't over the top and I think bigger maps would suit Halo, ffs that was the exact thing that was so unique about Halo CE when it was first shown, the fact the maps in the campaign were so open

Bigger maps would suit Halo. To me the vehicle combat in Halo is greatly hindered due to the size of the maps. With the flying vehicles you don't have much space, the maps that have the Warthogs feel to clustered for them. And the Scorpion feels out of place. Reach does have Forge World but that maps is too linear and tight.

For the CE thing you are correct about that. The first and last level are linear but they still feel open due to the size of the spaces. For the first level I love that you can freely walk the bridge and see them working. I love that you see the crewman going to different stations. The Halo level you're able to go to the other two or three objectives in any order. The level after that you can skip an area if you're fast enough to get behind the door. Each level to the game like you said are open or at least have that feeling to them. To me they don't have that much of a feeling you're walking down a liner path. They're open enough to hinder that feeling.

General Trollius · January 04, 2015, 04:11:10 PM

This has become a clone of the Reach forum...

Azumarill · January 04, 2015, 04:16:26 PM

Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 04, 2015, 11:26:44 AM

They probably wont because 3Fail3Idiocracy wants to appeal to MLGay and the tourneyfag Halo 3 fanboys and make the game unfun for anyone who isn't sexualy aroused by the number 50

do i smell a staff captain

yes i do

Azumarill · January 04, 2015, 04:16:58 PM

Quote from: Kaiser on January 04, 2015, 04:11:10 PM

This has become a clone of the Reach forum...

except without all the people from bnet who were actually good at the game

General Trollius · January 04, 2015, 04:52:18 PM

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except without all the people from bnet who were actually good at the game

Not like it matters, you don't need much skill for Halo 5 like you did for Halo 2

Sprungli · January 04, 2015, 07:03:33 PM

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Quote from: Sprungli on January 04, 2015, 02:14:36 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on January 04, 2015, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on January 04, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Not sure, 343 have said that the current beta is just for arena MP, the fact they have specified that indicates there'll be a beta for BTB as well. Tbh I suspect they are going to have 16v16 BTB like Battlefield, two birds one stone really if they decide to make BTB something to really shout about as well as a fan favourite
With the power of the Xbone I see no reason why it would be 8v8. The only thing they have to two is have another BTB playlist that's 8v8 for the older fans.
Exactly, 16v16 isn't over the top and I think bigger maps would suit Halo, ffs that was the exact thing that was so unique about Halo CE when it was first shown, the fact the maps in the campaign were so open
Bigger maps would suit Halo. To me the vehicle combat in Halo is greatly hindered due to the size of the maps. With the flying vehicles you don't have much space, the maps that have the Warthogs feel to clustered for them. And the Scorpion feels out of place. Reach does have Forge World but that maps is too linear and tight.

For the CE thing you are correct about that. The first and last level are linear but they still feel open due to the size of the spaces. For the first level I love that you can freely walk the bridge and see them working. I love that you see the crewman going to different stations. The Halo level you're able to go to the other two or three objectives in any order. The level after that you can skip an area if you're fast enough to get behind the door. Each level to the game like you said are open or at least have that feeling to them. To me they don't have that much of a feeling you're walking down a liner path. They're open enough to hinder that feeling.

Exactly, there is nothing limiting Halo anymore, the Xbox One is capable of running any larger maps, the servers are capable of supporting more people and the Halo universe is totally open now that 343 is no longer tied to any particular location or enemy, they have free rein to be creative and finally do something unique, especially now that they've shown they can get the Arena MP right. Breakout is absolutely fantastic and there is clear talent when it comes to map design (the remixes of Empire and Truth are superb)