Getting a PS4

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why not save the money and just get a pc?
This.

Really no need to own an x1 and a ps4.

Sure, blowout your wallet just to have better graphics and no friends to play with.

Fuck off, the X1 and PS4 are basically PCs now anyway

Sorry if I wasn't clear; I meant there is no need to own BOTH of them. They offer ridiculously similar experiences.

A pc will give you better visual fidelity, different genres (mmos, RTS are pretty much nonexistent on console), mods, etc.

It's more of a catch up on exclusives kind of thing. Me and my dad usually play Ratchet and Clank together a lot and we want to play the new ones.

Honestly, I want to get a PC but I don't really have space for one. I don't even have a desk, and I don't want to get a laptop. I'm just gonna wait until I'm in a better position for a PC. I'm not in a rush to get one, there's not that many games that aren't on console I desparately want to play right now; if I were to get one now, all I'd do is play Battlefront II XXL mode and mod the fuck out of Fallout and Skyrim. That and Starcraft 2; I've played it a lot at my friend's house and I really want to play it. I mean, I'm terrible at the multiplayer, but it's good fun regardless. I don't really like using M+K for shooters (I've only played stuff like Half-Life on my shitty laptop I have now) and using a controller would put me a disadvantage for multiplayer. Stuff like counterstrike doesn't really interest me too much.

Fair enough, but if you want to catch up, get a ps3 and save money.

You'll still be able to play Uncharted 1-3 and TLoU, but you'll also have:
-Killzone 1-3
-Infamous 1-2
-God of War
-The Jak and Dexter, Sly Cooper, and Ratchet and Clank HD collections
-The non remake Ratchet and Clank games
-Littlebigplanet
-Kingdom Hearts
-Any other Sony exclusives I'm missing

I got a used 320 gb ps3 and 5 games for $100 2 years ago, you could go even cheaper now.


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Fuck off, the X1 and PS4 are basically PCs now anyway
Which is a pretty good reason to get a PC

LOL no. Consoles are cheaper and for the same thing, if not better
I mean, yeah, if you want games that barely run on them.

A cheap-ish PC outperforms both consoles.

>Barely run

LOL. Thanks for confirming you don't know what you're talking about. I've yet to have a game on PS4 that "barely runs". They all run just fine.
I have a PS4 and an Xbone.

Games dropping below 30fps and running below 1080p for many games (and even dropping below 30fps when the games aren't even 1080p either) (keep in mind that it's 2015, too) is what I'd class as barely running.

They're pathetically underpowered.

What kind of stupid fucking games are you buying? NONE of my games drop below 60fps and there's NOTHING wrong with running a slight amount below 1080p.
There aren't that many games that are 60fps. It's still 30fps for most games.

TLoUR didn't even hold a stable 60fps. It also lowered other asset quality to get 60fps.
Tomb Raider DE didn't hold a stable 60fps on PS4. Runs at 30fps on Xbone.
TW3 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
Fallout 4 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
lol AC Unity
Rainbow 6 Siege drops below 60fps on both consoles. It runs at 30fps when playing against the AI instead of players.
Just Cause 3 drops below 30fps on both consoles
Halo 5 only keeps a stable 60fps at the sacrifice of other things.

I could go on.

Too bad none of these are true.

Yikes you're retarded. Literally all of them are true.


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Fuck off, the X1 and PS4 are basically PCs now anyway
Which is a pretty good reason to get a PC

LOL no. Consoles are cheaper and for the same thing, if not better
I mean, yeah, if you want games that barely run on them.

A cheap-ish PC outperforms both consoles.

>Barely run

LOL. Thanks for confirming you don't know what you're talking about. I've yet to have a game on PS4 that "barely runs". They all run just fine.
I have a PS4 and an Xbone.

Games dropping below 30fps and running below 1080p for many games (and even dropping below 30fps when the games aren't even 1080p either) (keep in mind that it's 2015, too) is what I'd class as barely running.

They're pathetically underpowered.

What kind of stupid fucking games are you buying? NONE of my games drop below 60fps and there's NOTHING wrong with running a slight amount below 1080p.
There aren't that many games that are 60fps. It's still 30fps for most games.

TLoUR didn't even hold a stable 60fps. It also lowered other asset quality to get 60fps.
Tomb Raider DE didn't hold a stable 60fps on PS4. Runs at 30fps on Xbone.
TW3 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
Fallout 4 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
lol AC Unity
Rainbow 6 Siege drops below 60fps on both consoles. It runs at 30fps when playing against the AI instead of players.
Just Cause 3 drops below 30fps on both consoles
Halo 5 only keeps a stable 60fps at the sacrifice of other things.

I could go on.

Too bad none of these are true.

Yikes you're retarded. Literally all of them are true.

Except they're not and you have no proof of that. Fucking asshole, who's the retard now?


 
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Fuck off, the X1 and PS4 are basically PCs now anyway
Which is a pretty good reason to get a PC

LOL no. Consoles are cheaper and for the same thing, if not better
I mean, yeah, if you want games that barely run on them.

A cheap-ish PC outperforms both consoles.

>Barely run

LOL. Thanks for confirming you don't know what you're talking about. I've yet to have a game on PS4 that "barely runs". They all run just fine.
I have a PS4 and an Xbone.

Games dropping below 30fps and running below 1080p for many games (and even dropping below 30fps when the games aren't even 1080p either) (keep in mind that it's 2015, too) is what I'd class as barely running.

They're pathetically underpowered.

What kind of stupid fucking games are you buying? NONE of my games drop below 60fps and there's NOTHING wrong with running a slight amount below 1080p.
There aren't that many games that are 60fps. It's still 30fps for most games.

TLoUR didn't even hold a stable 60fps. It also lowered other asset quality to get 60fps.
Tomb Raider DE didn't hold a stable 60fps on PS4. Runs at 30fps on Xbone.
TW3 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
Fallout 4 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
lol AC Unity
Rainbow 6 Siege drops below 60fps on both consoles. It runs at 30fps when playing against the AI instead of players.
Just Cause 3 drops below 30fps on both consoles
Halo 5 only keeps a stable 60fps at the sacrifice of other things.

I could go on.

Too bad none of these are true.

Yikes you're retarded. Literally all of them are true.

Except they're not and you have no proof of that. Fucking asshole, who's the retard now?
My proof is that I've owned an Xbox One for a year now, and every game has its crutch. Whether it has "dynamic resolution scaling", fps capped at 30, sub-1080p resolution, or just flat out bad texturing or lack of anti-aliasing. The hardware has really been struggling since the consoles debuted, and its only gotten worse.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iipDWbd6HNg but here's a video anyhow, of a budget computer running outdated hardware. It's playing Fallout 4 at consistently better framerate and higher graphical settings than either of the consoles.


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I'm a huge fangirl of The Witcher 3 and even I can admit that the framerate drops below 30 fps at times

They've managed to fix it a lot in the latest patches, but it still drops (Didn't have the framerate lock at 20 fps in some parts though, like it used to)

Fallout 4 is even worse


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Fuck off, the X1 and PS4 are basically PCs now anyway
Which is a pretty good reason to get a PC

LOL no. Consoles are cheaper and for the same thing, if not better
I mean, yeah, if you want games that barely run on them.

A cheap-ish PC outperforms both consoles.

>Barely run

LOL. Thanks for confirming you don't know what you're talking about. I've yet to have a game on PS4 that "barely runs". They all run just fine.
I have a PS4 and an Xbone.

Games dropping below 30fps and running below 1080p for many games (and even dropping below 30fps when the games aren't even 1080p either) (keep in mind that it's 2015, too) is what I'd class as barely running.

They're pathetically underpowered.

What kind of stupid fucking games are you buying? NONE of my games drop below 60fps and there's NOTHING wrong with running a slight amount below 1080p.
There aren't that many games that are 60fps. It's still 30fps for most games.

TLoUR didn't even hold a stable 60fps. It also lowered other asset quality to get 60fps.
Tomb Raider DE didn't hold a stable 60fps on PS4. Runs at 30fps on Xbone.
TW3 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
Fallout 4 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
lol AC Unity
Rainbow 6 Siege drops below 60fps on both consoles. It runs at 30fps when playing against the AI instead of players.
Just Cause 3 drops below 30fps on both consoles
Halo 5 only keeps a stable 60fps at the sacrifice of other things.

I could go on.

Too bad none of these are true.

Yikes you're retarded. Literally all of them are true.

Except they're not and you have no proof of that. Fucking asshole, who's the retard now?
My proof is that I've owned an Xbox One for a year now, and every game has its crutch. Whether it has "dynamic resolution scaling", fps capped at 30, sub-1080p resolution, or just flat out bad texturing or lack of anti-aliasing. The hardware has really been struggling since the consoles debuted, and its only gotten worse.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iipDWbd6HNg but here's a video anyhow, of a budget computer running outdated hardware. It's playing Fallout 4 at consistently better framerate and higher graphical settings than either of the consoles.

Videos can be manipulated. I'm not watching that


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I personally don't really see the point in getting a PC that's around the same cost as a console, but this gen is pretty underpowered


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Fuck off, the X1 and PS4 are basically PCs now anyway
Which is a pretty good reason to get a PC

LOL no. Consoles are cheaper and for the same thing, if not better
I mean, yeah, if you want games that barely run on them.

A cheap-ish PC outperforms both consoles.

>Barely run

LOL. Thanks for confirming you don't know what you're talking about. I've yet to have a game on PS4 that "barely runs". They all run just fine.
I have a PS4 and an Xbone.

Games dropping below 30fps and running below 1080p for many games (and even dropping below 30fps when the games aren't even 1080p either) (keep in mind that it's 2015, too) is what I'd class as barely running.

They're pathetically underpowered.

What kind of stupid fucking games are you buying? NONE of my games drop below 60fps and there's NOTHING wrong with running a slight amount below 1080p.
There aren't that many games that are 60fps. It's still 30fps for most games.

TLoUR didn't even hold a stable 60fps. It also lowered other asset quality to get 60fps.
Tomb Raider DE didn't hold a stable 60fps on PS4. Runs at 30fps on Xbone.
TW3 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
Fallout 4 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
lol AC Unity
Rainbow 6 Siege drops below 60fps on both consoles. It runs at 30fps when playing against the AI instead of players.
Just Cause 3 drops below 30fps on both consoles
Halo 5 only keeps a stable 60fps at the sacrifice of other things.

I could go on.

Too bad none of these are true.

Yikes you're retarded. Literally all of them are true.

Except they're not and you have no proof of that. Fucking asshole, who's the retard now?
My proof is that I've owned an Xbox One for a year now, and every game has its crutch. Whether it has "dynamic resolution scaling", fps capped at 30, sub-1080p resolution, or just flat out bad texturing or lack of anti-aliasing. The hardware has really been struggling since the consoles debuted, and its only gotten worse.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iipDWbd6HNg but here's a video anyhow, of a budget computer running outdated hardware. It's playing Fallout 4 at consistently better framerate and higher graphical settings than either of the consoles.

Videos can be manipulated. I'm not watching that
Alright then don't try to argue with someone if you aren't willing to, uh, argue.


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stay dumb midget

Back to personal insults because you're unable to prove me wrong? Looks like I win again
Yeah because your refutation was so solid, right.

TLoUR dropping below 60fps
TLoUR has lower shadow quality at 60fps
Tomb Raider DE dropping below 60fps on PS4. 30fps on Xbone.
TW3 dropping below 30fps on PS4. TW3 dropping below 30fps on Xbone.
Fallout 4 dropping below 30fps on both consoles.
It's no secret that AC Unity was a complete disaster.
Rainbow 6 Siege dropping below 60fps on both consoles. Capped to 30fps in Terrorist Hunt because the AI is too demanding for 60fps.
Just Cause 3 dropping below 30fps on both consoles. More frequently dropping below 30fps on Xbone, even at 900p.
Halo 5 holds a stable 60fps at the sacrifice of other things. Texture quality drops when there's too much happening. Resolution drops when there's too much happening. All animations that aren't happening close to you run at 30fps. Character model quality drops when there's too much happening. The AI is retarded. There's quite a bit of pop-in.


None of this is true though.


 
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Videos can be manipulated. I'm not watching that
people accuse me of being obstinate, and that i can never be wrong

but like

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Fuck off, the X1 and PS4 are basically PCs now anyway
Which is a pretty good reason to get a PC

LOL no. Consoles are cheaper and for the same thing, if not better
I mean, yeah, if you want games that barely run on them.

A cheap-ish PC outperforms both consoles.

>Barely run

LOL. Thanks for confirming you don't know what you're talking about. I've yet to have a game on PS4 that "barely runs". They all run just fine.
I have a PS4 and an Xbone.

Games dropping below 30fps and running below 1080p for many games (and even dropping below 30fps when the games aren't even 1080p either) (keep in mind that it's 2015, too) is what I'd class as barely running.

They're pathetically underpowered.

What kind of stupid fucking games are you buying? NONE of my games drop below 60fps and there's NOTHING wrong with running a slight amount below 1080p.
There aren't that many games that are 60fps. It's still 30fps for most games.

TLoUR didn't even hold a stable 60fps. It also lowered other asset quality to get 60fps.
Tomb Raider DE didn't hold a stable 60fps on PS4. Runs at 30fps on Xbone.
TW3 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
Fallout 4 drops below 30fps a lot on both consoles.
lol AC Unity
Rainbow 6 Siege drops below 60fps on both consoles. It runs at 30fps when playing against the AI instead of players.
Just Cause 3 drops below 30fps on both consoles
Halo 5 only keeps a stable 60fps at the sacrifice of other things.

I could go on.

Too bad none of these are true.

Yikes you're retarded. Literally all of them are true.

Except they're not and you have no proof of that. Fucking asshole, who's the retard now?
My proof is that I've owned an Xbox One for a year now, and every game has its crutch. Whether it has "dynamic resolution scaling", fps capped at 30, sub-1080p resolution, or just flat out bad texturing or lack of anti-aliasing. The hardware has really been struggling since the consoles debuted, and its only gotten worse.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iipDWbd6HNg but here's a video anyhow, of a budget computer running outdated hardware. It's playing Fallout 4 at consistently better framerate and higher graphical settings than either of the consoles.

Videos can be manipulated. I'm not watching that
Alright then don't try to argue with someone if you aren't willing to, uh, argue.

This isn't arguing, it's a debate. How about presenting evidence that can't be manipulated to confirm your own biases?


 
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anything can be manipulated

especially over the internet


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anything can be manipulated

especially over the internet

So then neither of us are right.


 
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i mean, gee, why debate anything ever

just accuse your opponent of using fake statistics and data


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I only asked what games people recommended for ps4 ;-;


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If you aren't willing to look at the video, then you aren't in a position to call it manipulated. Digital Foundry is a trusted group.


 
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