So that MGSV trailer

Big Boss · June 15, 2015, 01:22:02 PM

The hype is real.

That was so totally Snake and Liquid at the end

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · June 15, 2015, 01:25:41 PM

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Girl of Mystery · June 15, 2015, 01:32:24 PM

I missed it

Big Boss · June 15, 2015, 01:39:18 PM

Quote from: Lemon on June 15, 2015, 01:32:24 PM

I missed it

YouTube

Elai · June 17, 2015, 08:15:54 PM

Ah, I found it: the one Metal Gear related post on the entire damn website.

Yeah, it was real good. I was watching it with my friends live, and the introduction that Keighley gave the trailer was just awesome. It got me really emotional, and watching the trailer, I started to tear up when "METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN" showed up on screen.

But I disagree, that definitely wasn't Solid/Liquid sitting beside each other. I have no doubts that Eli = Liquid, and that Solid will appear in the game, but they weren't sitting beside each other.

Gatortag · June 17, 2015, 08:20:41 PM

Did you see the shorter trailer, where Quiet lit Snake's cigar by shooting it?

Also. Do you think Skull Face is real? I heard a bunch of people saying he's not. And in the trailer you linked, he's not behind Snake, then he suddenly is...

Elai · June 17, 2015, 08:22:53 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on June 17, 2015, 08:20:41 PM

Did you see the shorter trailer, where Quiet lit Snake's cigar by shooting it?

Yeah, that was awesome.

Quote

Also. Do you think Skull Face is real? I heard a bunch of people saying he's not. And in the trailer you linked, he's not behind Snake, then he suddenly is...

He's definitely real. He interacts with his men, Paz and Chico in GZ, and he interacts with Ocelot in one of the new TPP trailers.

I could be wrong, obviously, but I'm more inclined to believe Ishmael isn't real, given that he's a real douchebag who doesn't help Snake up in the hospital and that he has the same voice actor.

Gatortag · June 17, 2015, 08:27:51 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 08:22:53 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on June 17, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Did you see the shorter trailer, where Quiet lit Snake's cigar by shooting it?
Yeah, that was awesome.

Quote
Also. Do you think Skull Face is real? I heard a bunch of people saying he's not. And in the trailer you linked, he's not behind Snake, then he suddenly is...
He's definitely real. He interacts with his men, Paz and Chico in GZ, and he interacts with Ocelot in one of the new TPP trailers.

I could be wrong, obviously, but I'm more inclined to believe Ishmael isn't real, given that he's a real douchebag who doesn't help Snake up in the hospital and that he has the same voice actor.

You know what I'm talking about, right? I swear lol. He's not there, then Snake tilts his head back, or turns it rather. And then he's there.

Elai · June 17, 2015, 08:31:24 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on June 17, 2015, 08:27:51 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Josh55886 on June 17, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Did you see the shorter trailer, where Quiet lit Snake's cigar by shooting it?
Yeah, that was awesome.

Quote
Also. Do you think Skull Face is real? I heard a bunch of people saying he's not. And in the trailer you linked, he's not behind Snake, then he suddenly is...
He's definitely real. He interacts with his men, Paz and Chico in GZ, and he interacts with Ocelot in one of the new TPP trailers.

I could be wrong, obviously, but I'm more inclined to believe Ishmael isn't real, given that he's a real douchebag who doesn't help Snake up in the hospital and that he has the same voice actor.
You know what I'm talking about, right? I swear lol. He's not there, then Snake tilts his head back, or turns it rather. And then he's there.

https://youtu.be/ny5ri5SrDKQ?t=5m45s This part, right?

It's not like invisibility is impossible in the series. In TPP alone, we have Quiet and those who don't exist who regularly disappear.

Of course, this does act as useful evidence for those who think he doesn't exist. But we also cannot deny the fact that we've seen Skullface interacting with other characters before.

Gatortag · June 17, 2015, 08:40:51 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 08:31:24 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on June 17, 2015, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Josh55886 on June 17, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Did you see the shorter trailer, where Quiet lit Snake's cigar by shooting it?
Yeah, that was awesome.

Quote
Also. Do you think Skull Face is real? I heard a bunch of people saying he's not. And in the trailer you linked, he's not behind Snake, then he suddenly is...
He's definitely real. He interacts with his men, Paz and Chico in GZ, and he interacts with Ocelot in one of the new TPP trailers.

I could be wrong, obviously, but I'm more inclined to believe Ishmael isn't real, given that he's a real douchebag who doesn't help Snake up in the hospital and that he has the same voice actor.
You know what I'm talking about, right? I swear lol. He's not there, then Snake tilts his head back, or turns it rather. And then he's there.

https://youtu.be/ny5ri5SrDKQ?t=5m45s This part, right?

It's not like invisibility is impossible in the series. In TPP alone, we have Quiet and those who don't exist who regularly disappear.

Of course, this does act as useful evidence for those who think he doesn't exist. But we also cannot deny the fact that we've seen Skullface interacting with other characters before.

Yeah, that. I guess we'll find out.

aMetroid · June 17, 2015, 08:56:02 PM

I can't wait for the game

Girl of Mystery · June 17, 2015, 09:06:50 PM

I really want to get into MGS, but I don't have a PS1 or PS3.

Elai · June 17, 2015, 09:14:12 PM

Quote from: Not Lemon on June 17, 2015, 09:06:50 PM

I really want to get into MGS, but I don't have a PS1 or PS3.

Emulate MGS1 on your computer and buy the collection for the Xbox 360 so you can play it on your Xbox One.

Gatortag · June 17, 2015, 09:14:39 PM

Quote from: Not Lemon on June 17, 2015, 09:06:50 PM

I really want to get into MGS, but I don't have a PS1 or PS3.

Just read a summary. Or watch someone play them. Or just jump into MGSV and get mindfucked.

Girl of Mystery · June 17, 2015, 09:16:56 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:14:12 PM

Quote from: Not Lemon on June 17, 2015, 09:06:50 PM
I really want to get into MGS, but I don't have a PS1 or PS3.
Emulate MGS1 on your computer and buy the collection for the Xbox 360 so you can play it on your Xbox One.

The collection isn't going to be playable on X1 until MS decides to add it to the backwards compatibility catalogue. And considering it's a collection, it's going to be much later down the line.

Verbatim · June 17, 2015, 09:18:00 PM

metal gear is pretty dead to me at this point

Elai · June 17, 2015, 09:32:16 PM

Quote from: Not Lemon on June 17, 2015, 09:16:56 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Quote from: Not Lemon on June 17, 2015, 09:06:50 PM
I really want to get into MGS, but I don't have a PS1 or PS3.
Emulate MGS1 on your computer and buy the collection for the Xbox 360 so you can play it on your Xbox One.
The collection isn't going to be playable on X1 until MS decides to add it to the backwards compatibility catalogue. And considering it's a collection, it's going to be much later down the line.

Then emulate all 3 of the games on your computer.

Girl of Mystery · June 17, 2015, 09:38:05 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:32:16 PM

Quote from: Not Lemon on June 17, 2015, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Quote from: Not Lemon on June 17, 2015, 09:06:50 PM
I really want to get into MGS, but I don't have a PS1 or PS3.
Emulate MGS1 on your computer and buy the collection for the Xbox 360 so you can play it on your Xbox One.
The collection isn't going to be playable on X1 until MS decides to add it to the backwards compatibility catalogue. And considering it's a collection, it's going to be much later down the line.

Then emulate all 3 of the games on your computer.

I don't even have a laptop at the moment

Ásgeirr · June 17, 2015, 09:40:54 PM

Ive been watching Cry play MGS3 and i gotta say, its pretty impressive as far as depth and mechanics go.

But holy fuck is it cheesy and its aware of it obviously but its just so cheesy its hard to watch.

Elai · June 17, 2015, 09:56:07 PM

Quote from: Raktavija on June 17, 2015, 09:40:54 PM

Ive been watching Cry play MGS3 and i gotta say, its pretty impressive as far as depth and mechanics go.

But holy fuck is it cheesy and its aware of it obviously but its just so cheesy its hard to watch.

Yeah, MGS3 is like that. That's why I prefer MGS1. It's a bit more grounded tbh. MGS2 is just... no. Fun game and interesting story, but it's just the most wat game of all time.

Gatortag · June 17, 2015, 10:04:23 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:56:07 PM

Quote from: Raktavija on June 17, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
Ive been watching Cry play MGS3 and i gotta say, its pretty impressive as far as depth and mechanics go.

But holy fuck is it cheesy and its aware of it obviously but its just so cheesy its hard to watch.

Yeah, MGS3 is like that. That's why I prefer MGS1. It's a bit more grounded tbh. MGS2 is just... no. Fun game and interesting story, but it's just the most wat game of all time.

My first one was MGS4. The cutscenes man... My God. And shortly after I started, probably around the beginning. I'm walking around. And there's a guy in a trash can with diarrhea. I'm like what the fuck is going on. MGSV has a bit of silliness. But it seems depressingly dark too.

Ásgeirr · June 17, 2015, 10:09:02 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:56:07 PM

Quote from: Raktavija on June 17, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
Ive been watching Cry play MGS3 and i gotta say, its pretty impressive as far as depth and mechanics go.

But holy fuck is it cheesy and its aware of it obviously but its just so cheesy its hard to watch.

Yeah, MGS3 is like that. That's why I prefer MGS1. It's a bit more grounded tbh. MGS2 is just... no. Fun game and interesting story, but it's just the most wat game of all time.

Whats wrong with 2? I had it on my PS2 long ago but i couldnt get the hang of it and didnt play it.

Elai · June 17, 2015, 11:14:47 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on June 17, 2015, 10:04:23 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: Raktavija on June 17, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
Ive been watching Cry play MGS3 and i gotta say, its pretty impressive as far as depth and mechanics go.

But holy fuck is it cheesy and its aware of it obviously but its just so cheesy its hard to watch.

Yeah, MGS3 is like that. That's why I prefer MGS1. It's a bit more grounded tbh. MGS2 is just... no. Fun game and interesting story, but it's just the most wat game of all time.
My first one was MGS4. The cutscenes man... My God. And shortly after I started, probably around the beginning. I'm walking around. And there's a guy in a trash can with diarrhea. I'm like what the fuck is going on. MGSV has a bit of silliness. But it seems depressingly dark too.

I have no doubt that MGSV will be the most grounded of the series... I mean, Peace Walker was a good indication of what Kojima is capable of in that regard. But I hope there is some traditional Kojima silliness present, like upgrading your Walkman to have the pumpin' tunes play out loud. I can't wait to knock down a wall and shoot the enemies in reflex mode with Dancing in the Dark by Bruce Springsteen playing for all to hear.

Elai · June 17, 2015, 11:17:12 PM

Quote from: oss on June 17, 2015, 10:09:02 PM

Quote from: Snake on June 17, 2015, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: Raktavija on June 17, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
Ive been watching Cry play MGS3 and i gotta say, its pretty impressive as far as depth and mechanics go.

But holy fuck is it cheesy and its aware of it obviously but its just so cheesy its hard to watch.

Yeah, MGS3 is like that. That's why I prefer MGS1. It's a bit more grounded tbh. MGS2 is just... no. Fun game and interesting story, but it's just the most wat game of all time.
Whats wrong with 2? I had it on my PS2 long ago but i couldnt get the hang of it and didnt play it.

To the uninitiated, it was really convoluted, incoherent and unrealistic. There's a vampire, and fat, mad bomber on roller skates, and a girl that bullets bounce off of magically. Liquid is taking over Ocelot via an arm implant, you play as someone other than Snake...

Though, it's probably my favourite in the series. It's Kojima's genius at his best, and in terms of meta-narrative, I haven't seen anything on par with it. Like, ever.

Nick McIntyre · June 18, 2015, 04:47:20 AM

I've heard rumors that this isn't Big Boss we're seeing, but a fourth clone.

What do you think, Snake?

Elai · June 18, 2015, 05:08:18 AM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on June 18, 2015, 04:47:20 AM

I've heard rumors that this isn't Big Boss we're seeing, but a fourth clone.

What do you think, Snake?

There isn't a doubt in my mind that it's Snake. A lot of people believe that there are more clones; Ishmael could be one. The medic from GZ could be one. Sounds like bullshit to me. And he definitely isn't Gray Fox. That would degrade the whole message of TPP, I think.

I think it's more than likely that Ishmael is simply a figment of BB's imagination. After awakening from a coma, Snake's subconsious creates Ishmael to help Snake get out of the hospital alive. It's interesting to note that while he is clambering around with extreme difficulty, Ishmael is doing fuck all except standing guard. He never once tries to help Snake. He is also voiced by Kiefer, as is the medic from GZ. But tbh, I just think the medic was just lazy on KojiPro's part. Nothing substantial to be noted.

I suppose it's a possibility that there are multiple BB clones running around aside from David and Eli, but I haven't seen enough evidence to support it. The best thing I can find that leads me to believe this Snake is different is from the beginning of GZ, where BB is referred to as "Snake" instead of Big Boss. It's just odd, given Peace Walker's ending.

Nick McIntyre · June 18, 2015, 05:17:15 AM

Quote from: Snake on June 18, 2015, 05:08:18 AM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on June 18, 2015, 04:47:20 AM
I've heard rumors that this isn't Big Boss we're seeing, but a fourth clone.

What do you think, Snake?

There isn't a doubt in my mind that it's Snake. A lot of people believe that there are more clones; Ishmael could be one. The medic from GZ could be one. Sounds like bullshit to me. And he definitely isn't Gray Fox. That would degrade the whole message of TPP, I think.

I think it's more than likely that Ishmael is simply a figment of BB's imagination. After awakening from a coma, Snake's subconsious creates Ishmael to help Snake get out of the hospital alive. It's interesting to note that while he is clambering around with extreme difficulty, Ishmael is doing fuck all except standing guard. He never once tries to help Snake. He is also voiced by Kiefer, as is the medic from GZ. But tbh, I just think the medic was just lazy on KojiPro's part. Nothing substantial to be noted.

I suppose it's a possibility that there are multiple BB clones running around aside from David and Eli, but I haven't seen enough evidence to support it. The best thing I can find that leads me to believe this Snake is different is from the beginning of GZ, where BB is referred to as "Snake" instead of Big Boss. It's just odd, given Peace Walker's ending.

Well, the whole MGS storyline is pretty wonky unless you pay attention to every tiny, little detail from what I've seen. <___<

Oh well, can't wait for this game. Got Ground Zeroes for free on PS+ and I'm having a blast with it.

Elai · June 18, 2015, 05:00:56 PM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on June 18, 2015, 05:17:15 AM

Quote from: Snake on June 18, 2015, 05:08:18 AM
Quote from: Nick McIntyre on June 18, 2015, 04:47:20 AM
I've heard rumors that this isn't Big Boss we're seeing, but a fourth clone.

What do you think, Snake?

There isn't a doubt in my mind that it's Snake. A lot of people believe that there are more clones; Ishmael could be one. The medic from GZ could be one. Sounds like bullshit to me. And he definitely isn't Gray Fox. That would degrade the whole message of TPP, I think.

I think it's more than likely that Ishmael is simply a figment of BB's imagination. After awakening from a coma, Snake's subconsious creates Ishmael to help Snake get out of the hospital alive. It's interesting to note that while he is clambering around with extreme difficulty, Ishmael is doing fuck all except standing guard. He never once tries to help Snake. He is also voiced by Kiefer, as is the medic from GZ. But tbh, I just think the medic was just lazy on KojiPro's part. Nothing substantial to be noted.

I suppose it's a possibility that there are multiple BB clones running around aside from David and Eli, but I haven't seen enough evidence to support it. The best thing I can find that leads me to believe this Snake is different is from the beginning of GZ, where BB is referred to as "Snake" instead of Big Boss. It's just odd, given Peace Walker's ending.

Well, the whole MGS storyline is pretty wonky unless you pay attention to every tiny, little detail from what I've seen. <___<

Oh well, can't wait for this game. Got Ground Zeroes for free on PS+ and I'm having a blast with it.

Yeah, if nothing else, The Phantom Pain will have great gameplay, guaranteed. Which is all you can really ask for. In the new E3 demo shown off today, they confirmed that you'll be able to play as other characters beside Big Boss. Here's to hoping for Solid Snake/Liquid Snake/Raiden DLC in the future!