So I just saw the Black Ops 3 trailer.

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Ignorance.
the differences have been explained to me

and they aren't different enough


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Just because they're in the same genre doesn't mean anything.

You're a Street Fighter fan, therefore you should like Tekken and Mortal Kombat too, going by your logic.


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hey
the amount of differences between different types of fighting games are IMMENSE

whereas the only differences between CoD, Halo, Battlefield, and TF2 that have been presented to me involve two things:
1. setting
2. speed

that's it
I dunno, they all look the same to me

But that's coming from someone who doesn't play many fighting games

As someone who's played all of those shooters you mentioned, they all play and feel very different

Even Battlefield and CoD, which have similar kill times, play very differently due to gunplay and the game mechanics

Battlefield has vehicles, while CoD doesn't, for example. CoD has killstreaks, Battlefield doesn't. Battlefield has classes each with differing abilities, CoD doesn't. Battlefield maps are huge and the games tend to be long and more slowly paced, while CoD has much smaller maps with shorter, more hectic games.

They both play very differently, you simplified it down to "You have a gun and shoot people", of course they're going to sound the same when you put it like that


 
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You're a Street Fighter fan, therefore you should like Tekken and Mortal Kombat too, going by your logic.
and i kinda do

what's your point


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You're a Street Fighter fan, therefore you should like Tekken and Mortal Kombat too, going by your logic.
and i kinda do

what's your point
that you're logic is dumb


 
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that you're logic is dumb
*your

As someone who's played all of those shooters you mentioned, they all play and feel very different
i've played them all, too
they all feel the same to me

except TF2, but that's just because of its graphics

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Battlefield has vehicles, while CoD doesn't, for example. CoD has killstreaks, Battlefield doesn't. Battlefield has classes each with differing abilities, CoD doesn't. Battlefield maps are huge and the games tend to be long and more slowly paced, while CoD has much smaller maps with shorter, more hectic games.
battlefield having vehicles is actually one difference, i'll grant you that
but that's only one so far

Battlefield not having killstreaks isn't a real difference--you could always just count yourself

having classes isn't much of a difference, to be honest
neither is game speed or map size--all games vary in terms of speed and map size
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They both play very differently, you simplified it down to "You have a gun and shoot people", of course they're going to sound the same when you put it like that
you wouldn't be able to simplify fighting games in the same way

"two people fight each other" is NOT a good definition of a fighting game
"people shooting each other" is a good definition of a FPS/TPS game
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Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.


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hey
Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
I'd say I'm bored with military shooters but I'm playing through Wolfenstein >.>

Although I don't really play them often so there is that!

there sure are a lot of them though


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"two people fight each other" is NOT a good definition of a fighting game
"people shooting each other" is a good definition of a FPS/TPS game
Two people fighting each other is just a simplified definition of fighting games, just like how you've simplified the definition of FPS games.


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hey
that you're logic is dumb
*your

As someone who's played all of those shooters you mentioned, they all play and feel very different
i've played them all, too
they all feel the same to me

except TF2, but that's just because of its graphics

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Battlefield has vehicles, while CoD doesn't, for example. CoD has killstreaks, Battlefield doesn't. Battlefield has classes each with differing abilities, CoD doesn't. Battlefield maps are huge and the games tend to be long and more slowly paced, while CoD has much smaller maps with shorter, more hectic games.
battlefield having vehicles is actually one difference, i'll grant you that
but that's only one so far

Battlefield not having killstreaks isn't a real difference--you could always just count yourself

having classes isn't much of a difference, to be honest
neither is game speed or map size--all games vary in terms of speed and map size
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They both play very differently, you simplified it down to "You have a gun and shoot people", of course they're going to sound the same when you put it like that
you wouldn't be able to simplify fighting games in the same way

"two people fight each other" is NOT a good definition of a fighting game
"people shooting each other" is a good definition of a FPS/TPS game
Just because all games differ in map size and pacing doesn't make it not a difference, fighting games seem to have similar map sizes, should I count that as evidence towards them being the same?

Classes are a huge difference, are you really telling me that you see no difference in the class and teamwork based gameplay of Team Fortress 2 compared to CoD? I'm not sure how else to describe the differences since you seem to be already pretty set in your head that they're the same, and telling you to play the games and see the differences for yourself isn't gonna work since you've already played them and made up your mind on that

Fair enough on the killstreaks though, while they change up gameplay they're not a massive difference, no

There are definitely CoD/Battlefield/Team Fortress clones out there trying to cash in on the popularity of those games, but none of the games you mentioned are alike


 
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Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
I'd say I'm bored with military shooters but I'm playing through Wolfenstein >.>

Although I don't really play them often so there is that!

there sure are a lot of them though
Wolfenstein is different though. It offers a cool alternate universe. I just mean this whole "MODERN DAY MILITARY/FUTURE MILITARY SOON!!!!" crap.


 
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Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
FPS in general

not just military


 
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"two people fight each other" is NOT a good definition of a fighting game
"people shooting each other" is a good definition of a FPS/TPS game
Two people fighting each other is just a simplified definition of fighting games, just like how you've simplified the definition of FPS games.
it's not, though

because you could apply that simplified fighting game definition to an FPS game
but FPS games are not fighting games

you CAN'T apply the simplified FPS definition to a fighting game, unless you're playing a fighting game with guns, which... i don't really know too many, if at all


 
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Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
>She likes Fifa


Spoiler
you are pretty much right however. but its more just many if not all fps are just the same very few stand out


 
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Just because all games differ in map size and pacing doesn't make it not a difference, fighting games seem to have similar map sizes, should I count that as evidence towards them being the same?
you certainly could, but my point is that it's minutiae

it's a tiny difference--it's not a big enough difference, at least not for me
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Classes are a huge difference, are you really telling me that you see no difference in the class and teamwork based gameplay of Team Fortress 2 compared to CoD?
well yeah, because you can essentially imitate the classes by using the closest possible weapons
the scout in TF2 has a shotgun and a pistol

in halo, use a shotgun and a pistol--instant TF2 scout

the only thing is that you don't run as fast and you don't have a double jump, but again--minutiae
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There are definitely CoD/Battlefield/Team Fortress clones out there trying to cash in on the popularity of those games, but none of the games you mentioned are alike
whereas i can't think of a single big fighting game that doesn't have a distinction that truly sets it apart from everything else


 
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Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
>She likes Fifa


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you are pretty much right however. but its more just many if not all fps are just the same very few stand out
I enjoy anything soccer to be honest

and I know I'm right


 
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whereas i can't think of a single big fighting game that doesn't have a distinction that truly sets it apart from everything else
I would think a game like Doom would be different then say, Red Orchestra. Just because they're both FPS's doesn't mean they're the same. Too many variables.

That's like saying all fighting games are the same. Over simplifying is doing it injustice if you ask me.


 
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I read that as shooting, Verby, my bad.

But I did see you mention they're all the same. I just quoted the wrong thing.


 
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fuck you
Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
>She likes Fifa


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you are pretty much right however. but its more just many if not all fps are just the same very few stand out
I enjoy anything soccer to be honest

and I know I'm right
>F I F A

You said military shooters, thus only narrowing it down. Stupid.


 
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Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
>She likes Fifa


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you are pretty much right however. but its more just many if not all fps are just the same very few stand out
I enjoy anything soccer to be honest

and I know I'm right
>F I F A

You said military shooters, thus only narrowing it down. Stupid.
Yeah that's true, they all do feel the same at the very end of the day. Very few really feel different.

And hey, leave FIFA alone.


 
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fuck you
Can we all agree that military FPS's are so saturated on the market now? I'm surprised there isn't as much fatigue with it as there should be.
>She likes Fifa


Spoiler
you are pretty much right however. but its more just many if not all fps are just the same very few stand out
I enjoy anything soccer to be honest

and I know I'm right
>F I F A

You said military shooters, thus only narrowing it down. Stupid.
Yeah that's true, they all do feel the same at the very end of the day. Very few really feel different.

And hey, leave FIFA alone.
Fifa street was fun >.>


 
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that doesn't explain what's so bad about CoD, though

i mean, i know what's wrong with CoD--it's an FPS
but uh

Just because you hate FPS's doesn't mean they are all the same. Battlefield is a strategic game centered on teamplay and objectives. CoD focuses on deathmatch. The list goes on and on.


 
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Just because you hate FPS's doesn't mean they are all the same. Battlefield is a strategic game centered on teamplay and objectives. CoD focuses on deathmatch. The list goes on and on.
and deathmatches have no teamplay or objectives?

yes they do
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I would think a game like Doom would be different then say, Red Orchestra. Just because they're both FPS's doesn't mean they're the same. Too many variables.

That's like saying all fighting games are the same. Over simplifying is doing it injustice if you ask me.
you could argue that all fighting games are the same, and i wouldn't really have much of a problem with it

what i'm saying, though, is that fighting games, even though they're pretty same-y, have a much higher level of diversity than FPS games do


 
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I would think a game like Doom would be different then say, Red Orchestra. Just because they're both FPS's doesn't mean they're the same. Too many variables.

That's like saying all fighting games are the same. Over simplifying is doing it injustice if you ask me.
you could argue that all fighting games are the same, and i wouldn't really have much of a problem with it

what i'm saying, though, is that fighting games, even though they're pretty same-y, have a much higher level of diversity than FPS games do
I can agree with this. Recently all FPS's have had the same feel, so when one comes out that feels different, it gets more attention.


 
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fuck you
You can do great Team-play in cod....



If all the twelve year old quick scopers are gone.


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And the theme of this thread is: double standards.


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
that doesn't explain what's so bad about CoD, though

i mean, i know what's wrong with CoD--it's an FPS
but uh

Battlefield is a strategic game centered on teamplay and objectives.