So Cortana's death scene

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So, you can prove beyond the point of any reasonable doubt that Cortana's design was changed purely to give teenagers boners? Please, continue.
No

it's just common sense
if you can't see it, you never will

but it's obvious
>common sense
>knows literally nothing about the story

If you even knew what you were even talking about then you might have some inkling of validity.


 
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how does a character go from this
to this

because the game's demographic is mostly men
and most men like pretty women

no fucking shit
i mean COME ON
SHE WAS PRACTICALLY FLAT IN HALO 1

that's the only reason her design had an overhaul
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can't take Halo 4 Cortana seriously when they give her a completely human face with big boobs and a huge fucking waist and thighs. It just looks ridiculous compared to what Cortana should look like and is clearly only there to draw in the horny pre teens.
Actually this is what she is supposed to look like since she is based off of Dr. Halsey's DNA.


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how does a character go from this
to this

because the game's demographic is mostly men
and most men like pretty women

no fucking shit

that's the only reason her design had an overhaul
Let's just ignore her 2 previous redesigns then.

>knows literally nothing about the story

dude stop

If there wasn't the story element of "who is the human and who is the machine" (and if you'd played the game), then you'd be 100% correct in saying it's just to get teen's dicks hard, but... Yeah.

She's also the most anatomically correct in Halo 4. Being anatomically correct =/= sexualized
If anything, she's the most sexualized in Halo 3 because her tits jiggle.
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Did he say glass of juice or gas the Jews?
๐Ÿ‘ถ๐Ÿฝ:h..

๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿฝ:honey, he's gonna say his first words

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how does a character go from this
to this

because the game's demographic is mostly men
and most men like pretty women

no fucking shit

that's the only reason her design had an overhaul
Let's just ignore her 2 previous redesigns then.

>knows literally nothing about the story
Since she was made by using DNA from Dr. Halsey wouldn't that be the reason for what she looks like in Halo 4? After each game you can see she is getting older.


 
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Let's just ignore her 2 previous redesigns then.
because they're irrelevant
yes, they were sexualized too

halo 1, and maybe halo 2, are the only depictions that aren't blatantly pandering
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If there wasn't the story element of "who is the human and who is the machine" (and if you'd played the game), then you'd be 100% correct in saying it's just to get teen's dicks hard, but... Yeah.
story doesn't justify abhorrent design

if i write a book that's intentionally boring for artistic purposes, it's still a boring book
and that can never be good

If anything, she's the most sexualized in Halo 3 because her tits jiggle.
well there you go
thank you for helping my argument
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how does a character go from this
to this

because the game's demographic is mostly men
and most men like pretty women

no fucking shit

that's the only reason her design had an overhaul
Let's just ignore her 2 previous redesigns then.

>knows literally nothing about the story
Since she was made by using DNA from Dr. Halsey wouldn't that be the reason for what she looks like in Halo 4? After each game you can see she is getting older.
Canon-wise her appearance hasn't changed.


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Sick humour, no respect.

how does a character go from this
to this

because the game's demographic is mostly men
and most men like pretty women

no fucking shit

that's the only reason her design had an overhaul
Let's just ignore her 2 previous redesigns then.

>knows literally nothing about the story
Since she was made by using DNA from Dr. Halsey wouldn't that be the reason for what she looks like in Halo 4? After each game you can see she is getting older.
im pretty sure she can manifest herself in whatever form she chooses. She's not a physical being so she doesn't have to choose to look however.


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story doesn't justify abhorrent design
Unless you know, the design is based around the story to show a stronger connection between the two, which her Halo 4 design does.

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well there you go
thank you for helping my argument
I didn't though. I pointed out how her Halo 3 design is the most sexualized because of her exaggerated body and boob physicsl


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it's just using logic

why would they make the AI female in the first place?
why would they give her a female form?

why did her femininity grow more defined as the series progressed?
So, you shouldn't have a female character, because that can only mean that you want to arouse male gamers?
They gave her a female form because her gender is female, that's pretty darn simple.

Well, her character traits were pretty consistent, overall. The only thing that really changed was her model, which changed over time because, y'know, you have more resources and can now make her look more human and realistic. Does she look sexualized? It's kind of hard for her not to seeing as how she's technically naked, but focusing on that would be completely ignoring her personality and who she is. She's not just some pretty model, she's the reason the supersoldier male protagonist stayed alive during what they went through.

Now that I think of it, it's really appropriate in a way. Chief is always in his armor, never do we see his human body, his feature, he's entirely closed off. Whereas Cortana is outright exposed, even as an AI, a machine, she shows all the human features, expressions, and thought that Chief hides behind his armor.


 
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Unless you know, the design is based around the story to show a stronger connection between the two, which her Halo 4 design does.
thank you for conveniently ignoring my counterexample

no, that doesn't justify a thing
the story CAN'T justify it, that's my argument
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So, you shouldn't have a female character, because that can only mean that you want to arouse male gamers?
stopped reading there


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how does a character go from this
to this

because the game's demographic is mostly men
and most men like pretty women

no fucking shit

that's the only reason her design had an overhaul
Let's just ignore her 2 previous redesigns then.

>knows literally nothing about the story
Since she was made by using DNA from Dr. Halsey wouldn't that be the reason for what she looks like in Halo 4? After each game you can see she is getting older.
im pretty sure she can manifest herself in whatever form she chooses. She's not a physical being so she doesn't have to choose to look however.
AI tend to choose avatars that resemble their donors.
Cortana has been said to resemble a younger Catherine Halsey.


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So, you shouldn't have a female character, because that can only mean that you want to arouse male gamers?
stopped reading there
Your loss. Doesn't really matter much to me if you want to ignore an entire claim based on one sentence you disagree with.


 
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well i'm sorry, but if you're going to misconstrue my argument that badly, it's almost not worth having the discussion

to answer your question--no
you can have female characters

obviously

just don't exploit the female body
because it's obnoxious, and it insults not only women, but the intelligence of all male consumers
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well i'm sorry, but if you're going to misconstrue my argument that badly, it's almost not worth having the discussion

to answer your question--no
you can have female characters

obviously
I didn't say "can't", I said "shouldn't". It's pretty clear that you can have female characters.


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Unless you know, the design is based around the story to show a stronger connection between the two, which her Halo 4 design does.
thank you for conveniently ignoring my counterexample

no, that doesn't justify a thing
the story CAN'T justify it, that's my argument
I ignored it because it was shit.

Story absolutely can justify an appearance of a character, for obvious reasons that I shouldn't even have to mention because they're so fucking obvious.

If the story didn't have the human/machine element (A BIG PART OF THE STORY), then her appearance wouldn't be justified by the story. But the game does have that element, thus IT JUSTIFIES HER MORE HUMAN APPEARANCE TO EMPHASIS THE FUCKING STORY ELEMENT THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE GAME.


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Just want to add in that yes, Cortana certainly was sexualized over the sequels, but I think this was inevitable with better graphics; she couldn't remain blocky forever, though I don't recall any male AI being described as nude. In addition, she and Chief never developed a romantic relationship.

And of course she's coming back in the sequels.
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Story absolutely can justify an appearance of a character, for obvious reasons that I shouldn't even have to mention because they're so fucking obvious.

If the story didn't have the human/machine element (A BIG PART OF THE STORY), then her appearance wouldn't be justified by the story. But the game does have that element, thus IT JUSTIFIES HER MORE HUMAN APPEARANCE TO EMPHASIS THE FUCKING STORY ELEMENT THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE GAME.
LOL

calm yourself

you misunderstand my use of the word "justify"
yeah, it's justified in-universe

but not out of it

you can talk about how characters killing each other in the story is fine, because it's a story
and killing is often a necessary component of telling a specific type of story

but killing isn't a good idea outside of that universe
in fact, it's one of the worst things you could ever do


 
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you can talk about how characters killing each other in the story is fine, because it's a story
and killing is often a necessary component of telling a specific type of story

but killing isn't a good idea outside of that universe
in fact, it's one of the worst things you could ever do
and before you say it

the reason i'm okay with having killing in games is because no one's actually being killed

when you exploit something's aesthetic, however
you are actually exploiting that aesthetic


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you can talk about how characters killing each other in the story is fine, because it's a story
and killing is often a necessary component of telling a specific type of story

but killing isn't a good idea outside of that universe
in fact, it's one of the worst things you could ever do
and before you say it

the reason i'm okay with having killing in games is because no one's actually being killed

when you exploit something's aesthetic, however
you are actually exploiting that aesthetic
What's so inherently wrong with showing a kinda naked lady in a video game, then? How is this harming anyone?


 
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because it's obnoxious, and it insults not only women, but the intelligence of all male consumers


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because it's obnoxious, and it insults not only women, but the intelligence of all male consumers
Depicting the female body is insulting to women and the intelligence of all men? I'm really not getting what point you're trying to make here. Why she looks like she does in relation to the story and the traits of the characters has been explained in here, and it has nothing to do with arousal.


 
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god you're dense

they sexualized her to keep male gamers interested
because they think male gamers all just think with their dicks

i shouldn't even have to fucking explain how it's insulting to women


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god you're dense

they sexualized her to keep male gamers interested
because they think male gamers all just think with their dicks

i shouldn't even have to fucking explain how it's insulting to women

But what if women aren't insulted


 
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that doesn't change anything

you can call me a cunt, and i won't mind, but that doesn't change the fact that it's an insult


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only to keep male gamers.
because only men like attractive women, amirite?


 
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only to keep male gamers.
because only men like attractive women, amirite?
come the fuck on now

i'm talking from a marketing perspective here

yes, the majority of gamers who play halo are males, probably aged 16-30
and most men are straight

so naturally, they're going to appeal to that demographic
if you're female, and you like attractive women, fine

that doesn't have anything to do with anything
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