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it would be great if i could, like

not SD

ever

in my life


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I neither fear, nor despise.
it would be great if i could, like

not SD

ever

in my life
Dude, saaaaame


 
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>fucking up a short hop

such a small mistake, but it spells death almost every time


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Watch your airdodges


 
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Watch your airdodges
it's so unintuitive not to, though

"don't dodge to avoid attacks"

like

that's the thing about smash that i hate the most


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Watch your airdodges
it's so unintuitive not to, though

"don't dodge to avoid attacks"

like

that's the thing about smash that i hate the most
Sometimes you have to, but you did it every single time you were in the air. Every. Single. Time. A good player is going to catch on to that and punish you for it. I figured out when you had a tendency to airdodge and punished it with a charged fsmash or Shadow Sneak.


 
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grabbing should work like in traditional fighting games

where if you grab each other at the same time, it cancels out

because right now, throws are just braindead, imo


 
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Watch your airdodges
it's so unintuitive not to, though

"don't dodge to avoid attacks"

like

that's the thing about smash that i hate the most
Sometimes you have to, but you did it every single time you were in the air. Every. Single. Time. A good player is going to catch on to that and punish you for it. I figured out when you had a tendency to airdodge and punished it with a charged fsmash or Shadow Sneak.
i catch on to the same things as a sheik player, but i don't follow my own rules sometimes

like i said, air-dodging is just the intuitive thing to do--because if you don't do it, you're still gonna get hit


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I wouldn't mind that either. There's certain characters where grabbing really is retarded or braindead (Luigi and Mario to name a few).


 
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my counter is supposed to scare you from doing random/spammy smash attacks, but you just don't give a fuck

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do you not know the roy matchup? lol

i feel like i shouldn't have just beat you twice in a row there
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I SD'd one of the games when I was at 21% so there's that.


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Main: Samus
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i seriously pressed down+b every single time you hit me

either i'm not pressing it fast enough, or it doesn't activate soon enough

i know roy's counter window is like, the worst out of all of them


 
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all right, last game before i hang myself


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Who has the 3DS version? I'm out of practice


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Counters don't "activate" per se right as you press the button. Counters activate at around frame 8 so the animation will occur 8 frames after pressing the input.

Shit if I knew that was your last game I wouldn't have gone Lucina


 
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GGs

as always, your mix-up game is pretty on-point, but goddamn you need to chill out with the aggression sometimes

i hit you with that shitty counter like, seven or eight times in one game--that should be a sign for you to cool it down lmao
a better player than me would've nailed you with even more
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Counters don't "activate" per se right as you press the button. Counters activate at around frame 8 so the animation will occur 8 frames after pressing the input.

Shit if I knew that was your last game I wouldn't have gone Lucina
oh, okay
well, that's unfortunate

also, were you just randoming out with ike/lucina, or are those actual characters that you're working on


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Anyone on 3DS want to go a few rounds?


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GGs, but yeah I've been told I have a big problem of being impatient >_>

Yeah I was randoming.


 
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GGs, but yeah I've been told I have a big problem of being impatient >_>

Yeah I was randoming.
right

so what exactly is the best strategy against greninja, anyway

obviously i need to work on bad air-dodging habits, and my execution, but i mean
in terms of the match-up, i just don't really know what to

there were at least two or three occasions where you literally interrupted my rapid jab with your own, somehow


 
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like, my first instinct when i'm against an in-your-face-at-all-times type opponent is to start grabbing them, but i mean

- her pummel is bad
- sheik's up-throw is useless, afaik
- forward/back-throw only leads into bouncing fish, which isn't good enough, and you can just air-dodge it anyway
- down-throw is the best option, obviously, because it leads into uair, but only if you forget to DI, which... you won't

and if you DI after the down-throw, my only other option is to attempt a fair chain, but i mean
...air-dodges.

maybe i need to find a new character
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GGs, but yeah I've been told I have a big problem of being impatient >_>

Yeah I was randoming.
right

so what exactly is the best strategy against greninja, anyway

obviously i need to work on bad air-dodging habits, and my execution, but i mean
in terms of the match-up, i just don't really know what to

there were at least two or three occasions where you literally interrupted my rapid jab with your own, somehow
Get in his face. Not kidding. Greninja's out-of-shield game is complete ass since his standing grab is frame 14, making jab my only answer to relieve pressure.


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like, my first instinct when i'm against an in-your-face-at-all-times type opponent is to start grabbing them, but i mean

- her pummel is bad
- sheik's up-throw is useless, afaik
- forward/back-throw only leads into bouncing fish, which isn't good enough, and you can just air-dodge it anyway
- down-throw is the best option, obviously, because it leads into uair, but only if you forget to DI, which... you won't

and if you DI after the down-throw, my only other option is to attempt a fair chain, but i mean
...air-dodges.

maybe i need to find a new character
Sheik's fthrow to Bouncing Fish is a true combo, I can't airdodge if you do it correctly.

When I get to higher %, dthrow is your best option even if I do DI because I still float there. You can follow up with an uair or bait an airdodge and go for Vanish.

Ryu is looking to be a top 5 character right now and I know you like Street Fighter so...


 
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When I get to higher %, dthrow is your best option even if I do DI because I still float there. You can follow up with an uair or bait an airdodge and go for Vanish.

Ryu is looking to be a top 5 character right now and I know you like Street Fighter so...
yeah, the uair bait into vanish is one of my favorite things to do--i just have a bad habit of overusing things once i get them to work once, you know what i mean

also, ryu? really? even with his recovery?
interesting


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When I get to higher %, dthrow is your best option even if I do DI because I still float there. You can follow up with an uair or bait an airdodge and go for Vanish.

Ryu is looking to be a top 5 character right now and I know you like Street Fighter so...
yeah, the uair bait into vanish is one of my favorite things to do--i just have a bad habit of overusing things once i get them to work once, you know what i mean

also, ryu? really? even with his recovery?
interesting
Yeah, people have been getting amazing results with him (Trela and 9B most notably). Ryu's so good that top players are starting to have a pocket Ryu (6WX, False). I don't think his recovery is that bad considering he has the Tatsumaki for horizontal movement and he can still use Shoryuken for vertical movement.


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I neither fear, nor despise.
GGs, but yeah I've been told I have a big problem of being impatient >_>

Yeah I was randoming.
That's why I like fox's pew pew lasers

Force people to move or get free damage on them