RTS players, how do you play?

Mr. Psychologist · September 20, 2015, 05:16:52 PM

For those of us who play RTS games, which are fairly broad in scope so not every tactic works for every game - what is your preferred style?

If it's a general one, you don't need to post the game but for certain ones where a strategy only really works for a certain game it's helpful to elaborate.

So for total war games, I found that the style that suits my redcoats the best is to make a hill that is absolutely plastered in riflemen covering every approach. A skirmish screen to take out anything with range and some culverins on the top to counter enemy artillery <.<

Then just sit and wait for the enemy to come to you, rip them to shreds and win e.e

For dawn of war though, I'd turtle quite heavily until the endgame when I just go for their HQ in one ridiculously overwhelming strike. Spehss Mehren orbital insertion spam with the right timing lets you rain dreadnoughts, marines and terminators into their base in the space of about 1 second.

It's kind of hard to counter that too, because of the sheer amount of killing that gets done in the first few seconds of deployment.

I'm also a big fan of artillery creeping in general, just slowly walking a barrage across a map until the enemy is utterly destroyed e.e

I'm not in anyway a fan of rushing though, it ruins the fun imo.

How do you play you naggers?
Or don't you play RTS games because you hate america.

Doctor Doom · September 20, 2015, 05:19:57 PM

As impressive as strategizing is, making as many dudes as possible and steamrolling the other team works nine times out of ten.

Deleted · September 20, 2015, 05:20:06 PM

Someone should post their stating strategy for Age of Empires. I used to be so good at that game but the last time I played I had no idea what I was doing anymore. I wasn't managing my resources well at all.

Jono · September 20, 2015, 05:26:25 PM

Usually at about 3-5 minutes into a game I send out a unit to scout the enemy base to see what build they're going for.

Then I work on my macro to build up my army to counter their build while also expanding because more resource access is a priority to gain an edge over your opponent.

And yeah, I hate rushing too. It just feels cheap and not fun to do. I did a Cannon Rush in a ranked match on SC2 once and I felt like an asshole afterwards.

Jet Wave · September 20, 2015, 05:26:48 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 20, 2015, 05:16:52 PM

Or don't you play RTS games because you hate america.

I don't play RTS games because I suck at them. Heavily.

Verbatim · September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM

by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:29:03 PM

I like to find the fastest unit, spam fuck the shit out of that and rush as quickly as I can.

Mr. Psychologist · September 20, 2015, 05:30:58 PM

Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on September 20, 2015, 05:20:06 PM

Someone should post their stating strategy for Age of Empires. I used to be so good at that game but the last time I played I had no idea what I was doing anymore. I wasn't managing my resources well at all.

For the early two I didn't play them seriously but for the third I do that one on higher difficulties as a matter of course.

Economy is everything imo, if you have a strong economic starting base then the rest of the game comes easily. If you just spend your money on soldiers to harass then you've lost out on a faster resource trickle.

Mat Cauthon · September 20, 2015, 05:33:03 PM

I generally bunker down and build up armies to send in varying waves.

Like, in Supreme Commander I used to put so many turrets around my base nothing would get within 10 miles before getting fucked up. Then I'd mass produce bombers and Hiroshima my enemies.

Mr. Psychologist · September 20, 2015, 05:33:13 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM

by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)

They aren't for everyone, I enjoy the challenge of stretching my brain somewhat to be planning a bigger picture manoeuvre whilst focussing on keeping everything in the present flowing smoothly. There aren't really any substitutes for it, the complex ones that is. The ones based on RNG or rock paper scissors unit interactions (Infantry beats aircraft who beat vehicles who beat infantry stuff) are pretty meh for that.

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM

by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)

Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist

Kiwicake · September 20, 2015, 05:38:55 PM

Bull rush my enemies >.>

And try to outnumber whoever I'm fighting or prevent them from teaming up on my units

Jono · September 20, 2015, 05:38:56 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)
Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist

Don't start anything Batch

The last thing we need is another thread with like 3 pages of you arguing with Verbatim.

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:39:44 PM

Quote from: Jono on September 20, 2015, 05:38:56 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)
Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist
Don't start anything Batch

The last thing we need is another thread with like 3 pages of you arguing with Verbatim.

Oh okay, Verby baby, just exit the thread.

Mr. Psychologist · September 20, 2015, 05:41:30 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)
Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist

Fallout 3 was good, Skyrim still sets a benchmark for modern games, and Fallout 4 looks to be packed with an obscene amount of content. I'm getting pretty sick of these mopey threads talking about how shitty Fallout 3 was supposed to be, how boring Skyrim is (hint: if you're bored in Skyrim, you're a boring fucking person and there's no fixing that), and how supposedly bad Fallout 4 will be.

big dog · September 20, 2015, 05:42:13 PM

man i just make whatever and hope for the best and then sigh in disappointment when im dead in 5 minutes

True Turquoise · September 20, 2015, 05:42:54 PM

rush

Verbatim · September 20, 2015, 05:43:02 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)
Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist

i'm actually a pretty good strategist

but if the game is boring as fuck to play, then i don't really care

i like games that don't take an entire fucking day to finish

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:43:43 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 20, 2015, 05:41:30 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)
Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist

Fallout 3 was good, Skyrim still sets a benchmark for modern games, and Fallout 4 looks to be packed with an obscene amount of content. I'm getting pretty sick of these mopey threads talking about how shitty Fallout 3 was supposed to be, how boring Skyrim is (hint: if you're bored in Skyrim, you're a boring fucking person and there's no fixing that), and how supposedly bad Fallout 4 will be.

Hey I don't think, with the addition to mods, that any of those games could get boring for a very long time.

Though Psy, I feel like you may have commented in the wrong thread?

Mr. Psychologist · September 20, 2015, 05:44:43 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:43:43 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 20, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)
Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist

Fallout 3 was good, Skyrim still sets a benchmark for modern games, and Fallout 4 looks to be packed with an obscene amount of content. I'm getting pretty sick of these mopey threads talking about how shitty Fallout 3 was supposed to be, how boring Skyrim is (hint: if you're bored in Skyrim, you're a boring fucking person and there's no fixing that), and how supposedly bad Fallout 4 will be.
Hey I don't think, with the addition to mods, that any of those games could get boring for a very long time.

Though Psy, I feel like you may have commented in the wrong thread?

The irony is that most of these people now claiming Skyrim is shallow can look fondly at their 200+ hours of adventuring in a still-true technical benchmark with genre-defining mechanics. It's just silly. Skyrim is, without debate, a ridiculously detailed, expansive, content-filled and organic game. There's a reason that the worst parts of the game are the scripted story pieces, and that's because the game absolutely succeeds at being open-world and player-driven. I'm not even sure what the "depth of a puddle" is referring to. Surely it's not talking about the lore available in the game, or the hundreds of completely optional locations, hundreds of quests followed by procedurally generated quests, or the thorough crafting system? Of course, the game isn't a character-driven vidya novella a la Witcher, but the series never claims to be such. It's a giant fucking world with tons of stuff to do and tons of lore to uncover, and it kicks ass at it.

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:46:51 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:43:02 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
by falling asleep due to boredom and not giving a shit

i'd probably be a lot better at these types of games if they were more engaging (or engaging at all)
Well, it not the games fault that you're

1. Boring
2. A horrible strategist
i'm actually a pretty good strategist

but if the game is boring as fuck to play, then i don't really care

i like games that don't take an entire fucking day to finish

You've clearly never played an RTS game, they don't take nearly as long as you think. And where are your capitals chap?

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:47:21 PM

I also think I broke poor Psy >.>

Verbatim · September 20, 2015, 05:48:35 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:46:51 PM

You've clearly never played an RTS game, they don't take nearly as long as you think. And where are your capitals chap?

it's called an "exaggeration"

also
>just now noticing that i like to type without capitalization/punctuation

Mr. Psychologist · September 20, 2015, 05:48:58 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:47:21 PM

I also think I broke poor Psy >.>

It's my roundabout way of saying please reconsider trying to start shit in a thread made by a mod who is still posting in it.

It just ain't gonna end well.

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:50:17 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 20, 2015, 05:48:35 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:46:51 PM
You've clearly never played an RTS game, they don't take nearly as long as you think. And where are your capitals chap?
it's called an "exaggeration"

also
>just now noticing that i like to type without capitalization/punctuation

You know what, I like Zerg rushing.

Mr. Psychologist · September 20, 2015, 05:51:02 PM

AIN'T
GONNA
END
WELL

True Turquoise · September 20, 2015, 05:52:36 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:47:21 PM

I also think I broke poor Psy >.>

psssst

He's telling you to shut the fuck up

Ásgeirr · September 20, 2015, 05:54:17 PM

Im just a casul when it comes to RTS. So uhh, no specific playstyle.

Jono · September 20, 2015, 05:55:57 PM

Quote from: Batch on September 20, 2015, 05:50:17 PM

You know what, I like Zerg rushing.

Literally kill yourself right now

Batch · September 20, 2015, 05:56:02 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 20, 2015, 05:51:02 PM

AIN'T
GONNA
END
WELL

This is why you set up a defensible perimeter, see Age of Empires 2, set up a wall of arrow towers and build gates in between them. Need a shit load of stone though >.>