Some speculation had been stirring, and I'm sure most of you have already seen this, but there is definitely an RDS on those BRs in the gameplay (9:50)

I don't know if that means weapon attachments confirmed, but I'm hopeful that the scope will still be BR standard.

It's looked like that the whole time.  It's standard.

I take it you didn't play the beta..

And smart scope is literally just the zoom function applied to every weapon

And smart scope is literally just the zoom function applied to every weapon

please, please call it ADS, 'smart scope' just sounds like a cringy marketing trick (which it is)

Quote from: oss on July 27, 2015, 06:09:50 PM

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 27, 2015, 05:50:07 PM

And smart scope is literally just the zoom function applied to every weapon

please, please call it ADS, 'smart scope' just sounds like a cringy marketing trick (which it is)

smart scope

bitch

Uuh where have you been?

Can anybody who played the Beta tell me, what controller layouts are available? Is the H3 Standard/Reach Recon layout included, or will I have to use LT to Scope in?

Quote from: Zonda on July 28, 2015, 08:24:21 AM

Can anybody who played the Beta tell me, what controller layouts are available? Is the H3 Standard/Reach Recon layout included, or will I have to use LT to Scope in?

You can set zoom to the right analog stick like it always has been

Excellent. It annoys me when a potentially good game has limited controller layout options, that force the player to take time to get used to it.

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 27, 2015, 05:45:54 PM

RDS?

If you mean what Cocos posted, it has been there since the beta. It literally acts no differently than how zoom has always worked in Halo.

That not true.  A video from the beta showed it greatly reduced bloom/spread and SS has the gun blocking out a portion of the screen, where as zoom just had the reticle and some line designs.

Yeah, the beta.

SS functions exactly the same as zoom always has.

And the very minimal reduced spread shown in that video would literally make no difference because of bullet magnetism anyway. It's such a non-issue that can be changed anyway (and likely is) just to stop people sperging out over nothing.

Quote from: Sly Instinct on July 28, 2015, 09:03:30 AM

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 27, 2015, 05:45:54 PM

RDS?

If you mean what Cocos posted, it has been there since the beta. It literally acts no differently than how zoom has always worked in Halo.

That not true.  A video from the beta showed it greatly reduced bloom/spread and SS has the gun blocking out a portion of the screen, where as zoom just had the reticle and some line designs.

Yeah, the beta.

I don't remember seeing them mention in their list of changes from the beta, so there is no reason to assume they changed it.

SS functions exactly the same as zoom always has.

Their only similarity is that they magnify the screen.  In my edit, I show how zoom has no physical scope on screen and slightly blacks out the edges of the screen.  SS visibly shows the gun which takes up more screen space but doesn't black out the edges. 

And the very minimal reduced spread

The AR going from large water melon sized spread to being able to shoot in a straight line is minimal?

would literally make no difference because of bullet magnetism anyway.

Unless the weapon is used outside its intended range where bullet magnetism has no effect.

It's such a non-issue that can be changed anyway (and likely is) just to stop people sperging out over nothing.

Now if they were 'literally' the same there would be no reason to change it.  There's no such thing as "the same but different".

I don't personally mind automatic weapons getting buffed, I'd just prefer the classic zoom as it was unique in a market full of ADS styled zoom and was something that made Halo stick out.

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 28, 2015, 09:12:52 AM

Also the DMR scope doesn't look like that anymore

The DMR was just a quick example.  Other guns still appear on the screen though.

What's important is
1: Descoping is a thing again.
2: ADS implies trading mobility for improved accuracy.  This is not the case. 

On automatics, there was a bit of a difference.



I was using SS the same way I'd be using scope on any precision weapon in H2 or H3, because there wasn't any distinct advantage to using it in any context where I'd normally be using hip-fire.

In terms of aesthetics, I think SS was a good choice.  I wouldn't call the old zoom unique, but rather dated.  I wouldn't compare all the flashy holograms and effects that each weapon have to your average rifle with an RDS on it.  My only complaint was the sniper's effect was kinda annoying to quickscope with, and their post-beta notes stated that they drastically sped it up, so it's snappier.

Quote from: Tyger on July 27, 2015, 05:38:49 PM

Call of halo 5: the last fellow guardians will suck

Its Call of Halo: Advanced Titanfall

No no no.

Its Gears of Halo Theft Auto 6: Modern Ops III