Quote from: KawaiiKilla666 on October 25, 2016, 06:47:21 PMQuote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 06:25:25 PMQuote from: KawaiiKilla666 on October 25, 2016, 06:16:38 PMQuote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 06:12:34 PMAlso EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.this is untrue on the hardware levelthey all use the same exact graphics chip, all manufactured by nvidia, all thats different between resellers is the heatsink and the settings applied to the chip, i.e voltages, clock speed, fan speedyou're paying for their specific setup using their coolers and settings, if you really wanted you could just buy the cheapest 1070 you could afford and use those heatsinks and settings and there would be no differencethe real reason for considring one brand over another is the customer services==========also the 212 is fine for overclocking, the K series dont come with boxed coolers anymore so they pretty much expect you to oc your machinei havent been seeing adverse temps on my 212 + 6600k @ 4.3 ghzWhile that's true, someone who doesn't want to overclock their processor probably doesn't plan on diving into gpu settings or replace the heatsink. A 1080 is a 1080, but small differences have small performance differences. I don't disagree though, you explained it much better than me.And I really was talking more about the computer sounding like a jet taking off, but I really wasn't clear about that at all by using words like "heating issues".cpu fans shouldnt be making any noises at allnormally you shouldnt be able to pick out any fan noise apart from the gpu which throttles the fan control once under loadthe only time i ever hear my cpu fan is if its brushing against a wire or somethingthat or your fan might be broken, or not using the system fan control pins if its constantly at 1800 rpmCPU fan is definitely dependent on cpu load. If you're running at 80-90% load, you will definitely hear the fan. It's also temperature dependant; if you didn't use enough thermal paste/it wasn't applied directly you could have heating issues (which would trigger the fan).Of course, this is much more noticeable with stock fans, but the point is that fans will always make some sort of noise. That noise is linked to the intensity of the load the components are under; if he's planning to run everything basically stock, then he shouldn't have any problems with the fan getting loud.
Quote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 06:25:25 PMQuote from: KawaiiKilla666 on October 25, 2016, 06:16:38 PMQuote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 06:12:34 PMAlso EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.this is untrue on the hardware levelthey all use the same exact graphics chip, all manufactured by nvidia, all thats different between resellers is the heatsink and the settings applied to the chip, i.e voltages, clock speed, fan speedyou're paying for their specific setup using their coolers and settings, if you really wanted you could just buy the cheapest 1070 you could afford and use those heatsinks and settings and there would be no differencethe real reason for considring one brand over another is the customer services==========also the 212 is fine for overclocking, the K series dont come with boxed coolers anymore so they pretty much expect you to oc your machinei havent been seeing adverse temps on my 212 + 6600k @ 4.3 ghzWhile that's true, someone who doesn't want to overclock their processor probably doesn't plan on diving into gpu settings or replace the heatsink. A 1080 is a 1080, but small differences have small performance differences. I don't disagree though, you explained it much better than me.And I really was talking more about the computer sounding like a jet taking off, but I really wasn't clear about that at all by using words like "heating issues".cpu fans shouldnt be making any noises at allnormally you shouldnt be able to pick out any fan noise apart from the gpu which throttles the fan control once under loadthe only time i ever hear my cpu fan is if its brushing against a wire or somethingthat or your fan might be broken, or not using the system fan control pins if its constantly at 1800 rpm
Quote from: KawaiiKilla666 on October 25, 2016, 06:16:38 PMQuote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 06:12:34 PMAlso EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.this is untrue on the hardware levelthey all use the same exact graphics chip, all manufactured by nvidia, all thats different between resellers is the heatsink and the settings applied to the chip, i.e voltages, clock speed, fan speedyou're paying for their specific setup using their coolers and settings, if you really wanted you could just buy the cheapest 1070 you could afford and use those heatsinks and settings and there would be no differencethe real reason for considring one brand over another is the customer services==========also the 212 is fine for overclocking, the K series dont come with boxed coolers anymore so they pretty much expect you to oc your machinei havent been seeing adverse temps on my 212 + 6600k @ 4.3 ghzWhile that's true, someone who doesn't want to overclock their processor probably doesn't plan on diving into gpu settings or replace the heatsink. A 1080 is a 1080, but small differences have small performance differences. I don't disagree though, you explained it much better than me.And I really was talking more about the computer sounding like a jet taking off, but I really wasn't clear about that at all by using words like "heating issues".
Quote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 06:12:34 PMAlso EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.this is untrue on the hardware levelthey all use the same exact graphics chip, all manufactured by nvidia, all thats different between resellers is the heatsink and the settings applied to the chip, i.e voltages, clock speed, fan speedyou're paying for their specific setup using their coolers and settings, if you really wanted you could just buy the cheapest 1070 you could afford and use those heatsinks and settings and there would be no differencethe real reason for considring one brand over another is the customer services==========also the 212 is fine for overclocking, the K series dont come with boxed coolers anymore so they pretty much expect you to oc your machinei havent been seeing adverse temps on my 212 + 6600k @ 4.3 ghz
Also EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.
I personally liked the full tower you picked out over the mid tower, but that's probably cause I'm a sucker for windowed cases and I have a Corsair 760T.
Quote from: KawaiiKilla666 on October 25, 2016, 07:17:04 PMQuote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 07:03:57 PMAlright, so build version X.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€239.16 @ Amazon Deutschland) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€36.44 @ Amazon Deutschland) Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€109.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€77 @ Tweakers)Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€76.64 @ Mindfactory) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.84 @ Mindfactory) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card (€654.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€62.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€95 @ Tweakers)Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan (€7.79 @ Aquatuning) Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (€274.52 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1684Changed the RAM to a different brand (slightly cheaper but same mhz, performance and 16GB).Changed the Cooler from the Be Quiet to the EVO 212.Changed the full tower to a Mid one.Added a small case fan.Thoughts? This made it a 100 euros cheaper than before without losing performance (I assume).
Quote from: 「Prime」 on October 25, 2016, 07:03:57 PM
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