Playing as a "vulnerable" Master Chief

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Well, no, because you can't. It's an integral part of his character.


 
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the same could be said of very many protagonists
so it's sort of a cop-out
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and it makes any sort of discussions about him null


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the same could be said of very many protagonists
so it's sort of a cop-out
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and it makes any sort of discussions about him null
his plot armour is woven into the story

everyone else can survive just 'cus


 
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i don't think it's terribly difficult to pretend for a moment that he's in a vacuum where he could die, though

especially for the purposes of discussion


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well yeah, but it wouldn't, at least not until he's finished


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So... Verbs complaining about a protagonist succeeding at stuff?

I guess he'll love Halo 4 then.


Verb, Fred is one of the other 35-ish Spartan IIs and a member of John's squad in the next Halo game. Because John is not the last spartan, Bungie just ignored all the EU material and only bothered to add other Spartans in a game when it made literally no sense in the canon.

Also, Halo installations are designed to support life. Standard life, therefore human life. Installations 04, 05, 03 and 07 have been discovered by the 'current' period of Halo lore (6 years after the point you're at) and all have been able to support humans. One was used by the forerunners to house a human colony for preservation before they died.

All forerunner installations support life. It's rare when we find one that doesn't.

Also, (OT now) Spartans are described as being a blur in combat due to their reflexes out of armour. John, Kelly and Sam (his original squad) were able to infiltrate an insurrectionist base, capture their leader then escape virtually undetected. A base built in an asteroid belt, mind. When they literally had a vaccuum suit and some coveralls and that's it. There were a handful (About 5) that died before 2552 (Daisy, Sam, Arthur, Solomon, possibly the three members of Grey Team who are MIA), and a bunch died on Reaxh. Because, y'know, orbital strikes and being outnumbered a million to one isn't a good choice of odds.

That said, there's still a bunch alive in 2552 after Reach. Alice, Douglas, Jerome, Kelly, John, Fred, Linda, Black I-IV, Will, Kurt (Kinda), Cassandra, Maria, Naomi. That doesn't include the Spartan-III commandos or the Spartan corps made if thousands of augmented ODST troops after the war.

No, I don't know what I'm talking about anymore, that went on a massive tangent.

So, yeah. John would easily survive without MJOLNIR. But he is basically showing obvious signs of PTSD by halo 5, and feels uncomfortable without armour. Understandable, really.


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i don't think it's terribly difficult to pretend for a moment that he's in a vacuum where he could die, though

especially for the purposes of discussion


Twice people have survived being exposed to vaccuum.... Somehow. Once was in what is generally regarded as one of the worst pieces of Halo fiction, and one was in what was otherwise a brilliant book.

But Sam did die because he got shot on a spacecraft and couldn't escape back into space, so he stayed behind to detonate a nuke.


 
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So... Verbs complaining about a protagonist succeeding at stuff?
uhhhhhhh

No.

what a stupid statement
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Zane survived because of her augmentations


 
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Twice people have survived being exposed to vaccuum....
i'm not talking about a literal vacuum

goddamn


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She won't be able to do anything similar in Halo 5

So other Spartans are showing up in the games now? John is basically obsolete, then, given everyone else is more interesting and has some skill that makes them better than him.


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She won't be able to do anything similar in Halo 5

So other Spartans are showing up in the games now? John is basically obsolete, then, given everyone else is more interesting and has some skill that makes them better than him.
hello calling 2014
it's been known blue team are in halo 5 for quite a while now

none of them have chief's plot armour
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Eh, I don't think it would be very interesting. I get why you think it'd be cool, but it sounds like a gimmick to me.


 
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Eh, I don't think it would be very interesting. I get why you think it'd be cool, but it sounds like a gimmick to me.

Not gonna lie, I really dislike the gimmick excuse. People are too quick to slap things on as being gimmicky. Which is a really fucking fantastic way to stunt game devs who think about stuff like that and get all spooked to try something new for fear of having an acidic reaction from people.


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And water.

CE Master Chief can drive/walk into the Ocean on The Silent Cartographer until it's like 20 metres deep, and even the Marines can, never mind the lack of oxygen/pressure at that depth. Also, there's this one bit in the first level of Halo 3, where the Pelicans get blown up, you can jump into that River. The AI can't shoot you in water so they just throw grenades.


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Zane survived because of her augmentations

Unless you replaced all of someone's bodily fluids, they're unconscious in fifteen seconds.


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She won't be able to do anything similar in Halo 5

So other Spartans are showing up in the games now? John is basically obsolete, then, given everyone else is more interesting and has some skill that makes them better than him.

Pretty much. However, John has a deeper connection to the forerunners than any other spartan, and he's still the best squad leader. And Halo 5 (and by extension, the entire reclaimer saga) are about John and the whole man/ machine thing.


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Zane survived because of her augmentations

Unless you replaced all of someone's bodily fluids, they're unconscious in fifteen seconds.
We don't fully know about her augmentations and the extent of them. Either way she survived.