is it such a big deal to change it to something like "spanish" or "french"--something that they're not fucking speaking?
I get that XIV is great fun with friends (which is why I was trying to level up on your data center but you all seemed to have abandoned the game) but let's be honest here, the general player base of XIV is absolutely awful and I'd rather just have my NPC squadron do dungeons with me than a random in the DF. Every game is better with friends but that doesn't mean you can't have an offline MMO that works. And XII inspired XIV, without XII we wouldn't have XIV.
Trying to mask it as them not being in Japan and not speaking Japanese is stupid. It's merely dubbed so you can understand it, but the culture and writing is still going to be the same. It's like when Japanese things are dubbed over American things. The 90's is over with shitty and disrespectful translations.
Quote from: Luciana on April 23, 2017, 05:03:22 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2017, 04:29:28 PMis it such a big deal to change it to something like "spanish" or "french"--something that they're not fucking speaking?Yes, because they're Japanese and it's only getting a dub in the language, not the culture. The last time Persona tried to replace that shit for Western audiences was Persona 1, and it's retarded. Trying to mask it as them not being in Japan and not speaking Japanese is stupid. It's merely dubbed so you can understand it, but the culture and writing is still going to be the same. It's like when Japanese things are dubbed over American things. The 90's is over with shitty and disrespectful translations.To be fair, you can just change those few words without doing a cultural overhaul too. Dora the Explorer, for example, teaches children English here without anything else being changed. Not saying it's better, but you can change stuff like that without a full overhaul.
Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2017, 04:29:28 PMis it such a big deal to change it to something like "spanish" or "french"--something that they're not fucking speaking?Yes, because they're Japanese and it's only getting a dub in the language, not the culture. The last time Persona tried to replace that shit for Western audiences was Persona 1, and it's retarded. Trying to mask it as them not being in Japan and not speaking Japanese is stupid. It's merely dubbed so you can understand it, but the culture and writing is still going to be the same. It's like when Japanese things are dubbed over American things. The 90's is over with shitty and disrespectful translations.
As for the game, I'm (we're) waiting for the expansion. There isn't much to do anymore until then.And I'd say FF 11 is what inspired 14, considering it was the MMO and there are references from it, to FF 14.
Spoilera fucking jojo's reference
i've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh well
that one sucks thoughthat's why no one told you to play it?
Quote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PMi've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh wellPSP version isn't burgerized.
Quote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:03:46 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PMi've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh wellPSP version isn't burgerized.is it a port of the original japanese version with translations, or is it like, a total remake
Quote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:06:55 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:03:46 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PMi've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh wellPSP version isn't burgerized.is it a port of the original japanese version with translations, or is it like, a total remakeMoore player friendly menus, better ost, overworld, content that was left out of the US version (Snow Queen Route), etc. It's the Japanese game + a few updates to make it less PS1-y.
Quote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:16:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:06:55 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:03:46 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PMi've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh wellPSP version isn't burgerized.is it a port of the original japanese version with translations, or is it like, a total remakeMoore player friendly menus, better ost, overworld, content that was left out of the US version (Snow Queen Route), etc. It's the Japanese game + a few updates to make it less PS1-y.ehhh, i'll go with whatever i can find that's cheaper i supposei dunno if all of that is worth putting up with the PSP's clunkiness and shitty screen again
Quote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:18:22 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:16:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:06:55 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:03:46 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PMi've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh wellPSP version isn't burgerized.is it a port of the original japanese version with translations, or is it like, a total remakeMoore player friendly menus, better ost, overworld, content that was left out of the US version (Snow Queen Route), etc. It's the Japanese game + a few updates to make it less PS1-y.ehhh, i'll go with whatever i can find that's cheaper i supposei dunno if all of that is worth putting up with the PSP's clunkiness and shitty screen againThey're both on PSN, so neither is "hard" to find. Cheapest physical for Revelations: Persona is like $60 compared to P1's $20 is a big difference, though, as well as P1 being more likely to randomly find somewhere.
Quote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:33:16 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:18:22 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:16:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:06:55 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:03:46 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PMi've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh wellPSP version isn't burgerized.is it a port of the original japanese version with translations, or is it like, a total remakeMoore player friendly menus, better ost, overworld, content that was left out of the US version (Snow Queen Route), etc. It's the Japanese game + a few updates to make it less PS1-y.ehhh, i'll go with whatever i can find that's cheaper i supposei dunno if all of that is worth putting up with the PSP's clunkiness and shitty screen againThey're both on PSN, so neither is "hard" to find. Cheapest physical for Revelations: Persona is like $60 compared to P1's $20 is a big difference, though, as well as P1 being more likely to randomly find somewhere.oh, that's actually perfecthow come they took out an entire route? i never heard about this
Quote from: Verbatim on April 29, 2017, 12:01:12 AMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:33:16 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:18:22 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:16:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 11:06:55 PMQuote from: Aria on April 28, 2017, 11:03:46 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PMi've decided i'm gonna play persona 1 after i finish dark soulsbecause it's the ONE persona game that nobody has ever told me to play, so naturally, i'm gonna play itshitty thing about that is i'll be playing the stupid burgerized version of the game, because i cannot speak japanese, oh wellPSP version isn't burgerized.is it a port of the original japanese version with translations, or is it like, a total remakeMoore player friendly menus, better ost, overworld, content that was left out of the US version (Snow Queen Route), etc. It's the Japanese game + a few updates to make it less PS1-y.ehhh, i'll go with whatever i can find that's cheaper i supposei dunno if all of that is worth putting up with the PSP's clunkiness and shitty screen againThey're both on PSN, so neither is "hard" to find. Cheapest physical for Revelations: Persona is like $60 compared to P1's $20 is a big difference, though, as well as P1 being more likely to randomly find somewhere.oh, that's actually perfecthow come they took out an entire route? i never heard about thisLaziness, iirc. Didn't want to translate it.
Persona 5
