It's funny how people can accept Battlefront as perfectly fine game, but then bitch about Fallout.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 09:58:05 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?The middle ground in that statement is that the people who believe that don't trust Obama who are ill informed. The middle ground being that Obama needs to show he is in fact trust worthy and that the nay-sayers need to give him a chance. Obama can't go doing all willy-nilly expecting people to accept everything he does, nor can those people assume that he is an anti-white muslim.See, middle ground. Effort from both sides.that's not a middle ground, that's being patronizing to the other side that firmly believes without a doubt that obama is an anit-white muslim that seeks to commit a white genocideObama's polcies have nothing in common with being muslim or wanting to commit a white genocide, so telling them that they're right to believe that he is one does nothing more than pander to them in an effort to spare their feelings.That's not compromise. That's you being scared to tell them the truth and treating them like they're mislead children. And treating someone like they're a mislead child is just insulting.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?The middle ground in that statement is that the people who believe that don't trust Obama who are ill informed. The middle ground being that Obama needs to show he is in fact trust worthy and that the nay-sayers need to give him a chance. Obama can't go doing all willy-nilly expecting people to accept everything he does, nor can those people assume that he is an anti-white muslim.See, middle ground. Effort from both sides.
Quote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you say
Quote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
No middle ground right?lol
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 09:59:16 PMIt's funny how people can accept Battlefront as perfectly fine game, but then bitch about Fallout.I can bitch about both and still find them fun. What does that make me?
Quote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?stopDon't try and start something if you don't intend to see it through.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?stop
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 10:06:03 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 09:58:05 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?The middle ground in that statement is that the people who believe that don't trust Obama who are ill informed. The middle ground being that Obama needs to show he is in fact trust worthy and that the nay-sayers need to give him a chance. Obama can't go doing all willy-nilly expecting people to accept everything he does, nor can those people assume that he is an anti-white muslim.See, middle ground. Effort from both sides.that's not a middle ground, that's being patronizing to the other side that firmly believes without a doubt that obama is an anit-white muslim that seeks to commit a white genocideObama's polcies have nothing in common with being muslim or wanting to commit a white genocide, so telling them that they're right to believe that he is one does nothing more than pander to them in an effort to spare their feelings.That's not compromise. That's you being scared to tell them the truth and treating them like they're mislead children. And treating someone like they're a mislead child is just insulting.First of all, in no way did I say that these peope were right. They can believe it if they want. Obama's side just needs to prove that he isn't a muslim and earn their trust, and the other, even though they believe it, need to at least have an open mind. Middle ground.
And what does and what does any of this even have to do with Fallout? Stop trying to pull a Verb by being extreme.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:48:51 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?stopDon't try and start something if you don't intend to see it through.I wasnt even going to, im just here to laugh at your stupidity
Quote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 10:19:00 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:48:51 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?stopDon't try and start something if you don't intend to see it through.I wasnt even going to, im just here to laugh at your stupidityBecause people saying that Bethesda is terrible in the animation department is stupidity.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 10:22:19 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 10:19:00 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:48:51 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?stopDon't try and start something if you don't intend to see it through.I wasnt even going to, im just here to laugh at your stupidityBecause people saying that Bethesda is terrible in the animation department is stupidity.Nope. But when you say someone is outright wrong with saying theyre fine with the animations, its stupid.Your opinion doesnt make you right. Geez
Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?
Obama is a muslim.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 10:07:02 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 09:59:16 PMIt's funny how people can accept Battlefront as perfectly fine game, but then bitch about Fallout.I can bitch about both and still find them fun. What does that make me?Annoying and unappreciative. You don't need to bitch about anything and just be happy that you have it.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:09:53 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 10:06:03 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 09:58:05 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?The middle ground in that statement is that the people who believe that don't trust Obama who are ill informed. The middle ground being that Obama needs to show he is in fact trust worthy and that the nay-sayers need to give him a chance. Obama can't go doing all willy-nilly expecting people to accept everything he does, nor can those people assume that he is an anti-white muslim.See, middle ground. Effort from both sides.that's not a middle ground, that's being patronizing to the other side that firmly believes without a doubt that obama is an anit-white muslim that seeks to commit a white genocideObama's polcies have nothing in common with being muslim or wanting to commit a white genocide, so telling them that they're right to believe that he is one does nothing more than pander to them in an effort to spare their feelings.That's not compromise. That's you being scared to tell them the truth and treating them like they're mislead children. And treating someone like they're a mislead child is just insulting.First of all, in no way did I say that these peope were right. They can believe it if they want. Obama's side just needs to prove that he isn't a muslim and earn their trust, and the other, even though they believe it, need to at least have an open mind. Middle ground.If you're in no way saying that these people are right then you're not reaching a middle ground with them. A middle ground is a compromise between both parties, if you're being patronizing and essentially referring to them as misinformed children you aren't exchanging in a give and take. The fact that Obama has done nothing indicate that he's a Muslim also negates the the claim that he needs to prove himself not to be one. QuoteAnd what does and what does any of this even have to do with Fallout? Stop trying to pull a Verb by being extreme.I don't know. Why did Oss try to take a potshot at people having a conversation? Why did you take up the banner when he decided to leave it alone when confronted on doing so?You are correct in the assertion that we're getting off topic though so we can take this to PMs if you'd like.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:10:50 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 10:07:02 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 09:59:16 PMIt's funny how people can accept Battlefront as perfectly fine game, but then bitch about Fallout.I can bitch about both and still find them fun. What does that make me?Annoying and unappreciative. You don't need to bitch about anything and just be happy that you have it. You can be perfectly happy about something and recognize that it has flaws.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:31:18 PMIt's not about me. It's about having animations that are up to par with a modern AAA game. Bethesda is notoriously bad at animations and character models, this isn't an opinion this is just fact.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:31:18 PMIt's not about me. It's about having animations that are up to par with a modern AAA game. Bethesda is notoriously bad at animations and character models, this isn't an opinion this is just fact.I'm perfectly happy with both Battlefront and Fallout 4 despite being able to point out the problems with both. Who are you to tell me what I do and do not enjoy? What people find enjoyable is completely subjective. The quality of a product however isn't.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:43:07 PMAnimations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:16:17 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:43:07 PMAnimations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.Like your opinion.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 11:17:20 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:16:17 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:43:07 PMAnimations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.Like your opinion.nice refutation
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 11:17:20 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:16:17 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:43:07 PMAnimations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.Like your opinion.nice refutationWell clearly there's no point. Your like your Obama haters, your opinion is fact, and that's that. What's the point in arguing with you? All you do is bring up AAA standards that don't exist.It's a game, play it or don't. Bitching won't get you anywhere.
Quote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 11:25:27 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 11:17:20 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:16:17 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:43:07 PMAnimations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.Like your opinion.nice refutationWell clearly there's no point. Your like your Obama haters, your opinion is fact, and that's that. What's the point in arguing with you? All you do is bring up AAA standards that don't exist.It's a game, play it or don't. Bitching won't get you anywhere.It's not my opinion, standards for games in 2015 do exist and if a game in 2015 recycles content from a last gen title and makes no effort to improve then it deserves to be called out on it.You can enjoy a game fully, recognize that it has flaws , and talk about them freely. Shutting down discussion does nothing for you. It only encloses you in an echo chamber where differing opinions aren't welcome.Instead of denying that a very real problem exists you should be open to discussing it and the fact that it really needs to be addressed/fixed in future installments.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:37:01 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 11:25:27 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 11:17:20 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 11:16:17 PMQuote from: Casper on November 20, 2015, 10:43:07 PMAnimations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.Like your opinion.nice refutationWell clearly there's no point. Your like your Obama haters, your opinion is fact, and that's that. What's the point in arguing with you? All you do is bring up AAA standards that don't exist.It's a game, play it or don't. Bitching won't get you anywhere.It's not my opinion, standards for games in 2015 do exist and if a game in 2015 recycles content from a last gen title and makes no effort to improve then it deserves to be called out on it.You can enjoy a game fully, recognize that it has flaws , and talk about them freely. Shutting down discussion does nothing for you. It only encloses you in an echo chamber where differing opinions aren't welcome.Instead of denying that a very real problem exists you should be open to discussing it and the fact that it really needs to be addressed/fixed in future installments.Look, I get you have an "i'm always right" complex. Try praising a game for what it does right rather than bitching about what is does wrong. We're not taking about ME3 here. I'm done talking about this with you. Fallout 4 is an improvement regardless of some shortcomings, end of story.
See this is why i couldnt be bothered. There just is no reasoning with you.Thanks for the laugh anyway.
Quote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 10:33:40 PMSee this is why i couldnt be bothered. There just is no reasoning with you.Thanks for the laugh anyway.You never attempted to reason. You just acted like some pretentious prick looking down on the plebeians like you knew better than them and then refused to discuss when someone tried to take you to task over it.
Quote from: LC on November 21, 2015, 12:18:04 AMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 10:33:40 PMSee this is why i couldnt be bothered. There just is no reasoning with you.Thanks for the laugh anyway.You never attempted to reason. You just acted like some pretentious prick looking down on the plebeians like you knew better than them and then refused to discuss when someone tried to take you to task over it.Theres no point when you think your opinion is a factLike really, i dont care.
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