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>FFXV and KH III were announced at E3 2013 before PS4 and XB1 were out. Before it was known that Japanese titles sell like shit on XB1. And that the PS4 would outsell XB1 2:1 worldwide
>The sales ratio of Type-0 HD. Opening month it sold 200k copies, PS4 had 3 times as many copies sold as XB1. Do the math. XB1 version in JAPAN (not US as aforementioned) 3200 opening.
>"Console exclusive" AKA PS4 and NX (Cloud in Smash)
>KH 2.8 is PS4 exclusive (even though Disney is in charge of this, they would want to maximize platforms, but if it's not profitable... do it only on PS4)
>World of FF is PS4 exclusive
>FF7 PC version is PS4 exclusive

What happened to FF titles on XB1?
It was known that the Xbox platform wasn't popular in Japan. Look at the 360. It was also known that Japanese titles sold poorly on the 360.
Also, if it was on PS4 and the NX, then it wouldn't be a console exclusive. Console exclusive = [insert console here] + PC, not [multiple consoles] + PC.

It'll be on the Xbone. Just like Type-0 HD is. Just like FFXV will be. Just like how FFXIII games were on 360. Just like KH3 will be.

It isn't logical to narrow your sales market.

That and EB Games are taking pre-orders for FF7 on both the PS4 and Xbone.


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FF7 and NMS are PS4 first. They'll release on Xbone afterwards. TLG is PS4 only.
Do you really think FF7 will be on XB1?
Of course it will.
Gunna need some explanation buddy.
Give me a reason why it won't.

The Lightning games were on 360.
MS and Squeenix have been super buddy-buddy recently .
It isn't a PS exclusive anyway.
If it was "console exclusive" (meaning PS4 and PC) it would've said so, like Street Fighter V. Instead it said "Coming first on PlayStation 4", meaning that it's multiplat.
KH3, another Squeenix title, is releasing on Xbone.

There's no reason to believe that it won't.
I still dont know about 13, testing the system? But for everything else. I think people should just assume it will be, like FF15 which is said to be exclusive to PS4, no news yet but Sony being at the big game have enough to halt FF7 from going Xbone.

Now Kingdom Hearts? Well that there has a Disney license, and Disney like their money so it is more then safe to assume they made that decision because of their rank and influence, as sony wouldn't be able to outbuy it from them, as well as keeping a nice relationship anyway.



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I think people should just assume it will be, like FF15 which is said to be exclusive to PS4
No it isn't. FFXV is for PS4 and Xbone, with a PC release being considered by Squeenix.

Anyway. FF7 will be on Xbone.
It'll be on the Xbone. Just like Type-0 HD is. Just like FFXV will be. Just like how FFXIII games were on 360. Just like KH3 will be.

It isn't logical to narrow your sales market.

That and EB Games are taking pre-orders for FF7 on both the PS4 and Xbone.



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Wait wait what evidence does EB have? I dont care at the end of the day but they'd have to have proper evidence to show that they can actually sell a product which may or may not exist.



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Wait wait what evidence does EB have? I dont care at the end of the day but they'd have to have proper evidence to show that they can actually sell a product which may or may not exist.
Many foreign retailers have listings for things that don't exist. It's not the first time. EB and FR Amazon being a few.


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So until Square / Sony say otherwise its assumed its PS4 only. You can argue it Lemon,  but you'd need a proper source to confirm it.


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Wait wait what evidence does EB have? I dont care at the end of the day but they'd have to have proper evidence to show that they can actually sell a product which may or may not exist.
Well for starters, they can't sell something that doesn't exist.
EB have said that it's announced for both consoles (not publicly, of course), albiet a staggered release.

Why people think it won't release on Xbone is beyond me. There's no reason to think it won't.
It's literally no different than Rise of the Tomb Raider being released on Xbone first with no PS4 announcement.


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Wait wait what evidence does EB have? I dont care at the end of the day but they'd have to have proper evidence to show that they can actually sell a product which may or may not exist.
Many foreign retailers have listings for things that don't exist. It's not the first time. EB and FR Amazon being a few.
EB Games is an American Retailer.


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So until Square / Sony say otherwise its assumed its PS4 only. You can argue it Lemon,  but you'd need a proper source to confirm it.
You people are mind numbingly dim. We already know it isn't PS4 only.
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Doesn't provide sauce.

No tip for you.


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Doesn't provide sauce.

No tip for you.
A source to what? It not being a PS4 only game, and being a timed exclusive?

Uhh, how about the PSX trailer for FF7R?


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Doesn't provide sauce.

No tip for you.
A source to what? It not being a PS4 only game, and being a timed exclusive?

Uhh, how about the PSX trailer for FF7R?
It doesnt really make a difference to me regardless,  but for arguments sake it says 'first on PS4' it doesnt state neither PC nor XB1 so it could be either or both. But right now there is no evidence to confirm it is going on XB1 yet.  Theres nothing really else to talk about on the situation bruh.

It would make sense to release the game at its full potential on PC though I'll say that.


 
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You people are so dumb.

First on PS4 explicitly means it'll come to Xbone. If it wasn't going to Xbone, they'd say "Exclusive to PS4." or "PS4 console exclusive."


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You people are so dumb.

First on PS4 explicitly means it'll come to Xbone. If it wasn't going to Xbone, they'd say "Exclusive to PS4." or "PS4 console exclusive."
You remember how they advertised Titanfall and Tomb Raider? Xbox exclusive baby!



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You people are so dumb.

First on PS4 explicitly means it'll come to Xbone. If it wasn't going to Xbone, they'd say "Exclusive to PS4." or "PS4 console exclusive."
You remember how they advertised Titanfall and Tomb Raider? Xbox exclusive baby!
Except Tomb Raider is a timed exclusive

Also Titanfall never once had any marketing saying anything like "Play it first on Xbox". It was a flat out "console exclusive" with nothing suggesting a PlayStation release.
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You remember how they advertised Titanfall and Tomb Raider? Xbox exclusive baby!

You're a straight-up moron. Tomb Raider isn't an Xbox exclusive.


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You remember how they advertised Titanfall and Tomb Raider? Xbox exclusive baby!

You're a straight-up moron. Tomb Raider isn't an Xbox exclusive.
Firstly, why are you both being so aggressive? Can't we converse?

Now, read what I said, 'advertised' Tomb Raider was initially advertised as Xbox exclusive
http://gamerant.com/rise-tomb-raider-exclusive-confusion-crystal-dynamics-explain/
This is even a link discussing about the confusion and anger that spurred from that initial release of info.

Now you both need to see what Im getting to. FF7 said from the get go back in June "Play it First on PS4"
That doesn't mean it will be on Xbox, that's an assumption
Titanfall advertised as Xbox Exclusive in the initial advertisements then also added a PC release and Tomb Raider was FIRSTLY advertised as an Xbox Exclusive then corrected to PS4 as timed very quickly.

Now take that back to FF7, to not dominate sales in one way or another why have they not yet given full notice to customers that you can buy this game on either console? A Preorder page for an XB1 version on the EB games website isn't sufficient as things like this have been done in the past, as well as the fact they can't even confirm a release date for the Xbox copy if it does exist. I just assume it would be sensible from the get go to say "First on PS4, but you can also get it on Xbox a year later" or something like that.

Because if you are right, it won't sell well on the Xbox by the time they announce it, which would be a very bad business mood. Lastly, I'm just trying to have a discussion guys, I don't care if it comes out on the Xbox, we're here on a forum to talk, lets just do that.


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Titanfall's marketing and Tomb Raider's marketing aren't even the same as FF7's.
FF7 explicitly states that it's a timed exclusive.

Believing it won't get an Xbone launch is utterly retarded, and completely unfounded.


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Believing it won't get an Xbone launch is utterly retarded, and completely unfounded.
Except the point where it doesn't actually say it's going to be. You're just assuming it will be. I think if it is, they're advertising it badly, but if Sony has more money pitched in then it makes a bit more sense.

Anyway I have nothing more to add to the discussion as I hope I got everything across, now we just wait and see.


 
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Firstly, why are you both being so aggressive? Can't we converse?

Because you're always saying stupid shit and it's annoying.

Stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop being aggressive, if it bothers you so much.

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Now, read what I said, 'advertised' Tomb Raider was initially advertised as Xbox exclusive. This is even a link discussing about the confusion and anger that spurred from that initial release of info.

No, it wasn't. People being stupid en masse doesn't really do anything for your argument. It's not surprising that people were confused; people are dumb.

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FF7 said from the get go back in June "Play it First on PS4." That doesn't mean it will be on Xbox, that's an assumption.

What else could "Play it first on PS4" mean? If FF7 was truly a PS4 console exclusive, they would say "Playstation 4 exlusive" instead of neutering their marketing impact by saying "Play it a few months earlier on this console!"

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Titanfall advertised as Xbox Exclusive in the initial advertisements then also added a PC release

IIRC Titanfall was meant to be an exlusive to the Xbox platform but the devs didn't meet the sales quota to justify it. That's why Titanfall 2 will also be on PS4.

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and Tomb Raider was FIRSTLY advertised as an Xbox Exclusive then corrected to PS4 as timed very quickly.

AFAIK, it was never advertised as such.

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Now take that back to FF7, to not dominate sales in one way or another why have they not yet given full notice to customers that you can buy this game on either console?

Do you even know why games are timed exclusive? The publishers get a huge sum of money from either Sony or Microsoft so that they can have the game a few months earlier to boost the sales of their platform. This isn't rocket science.

The sales they would lose by NOT releasing a game on the other platform would surely be made up by the sum of money that Sony provided for them. Plus, delaying the game on a console doesn't mean they'll lose all of their sales for said platform, it just means they potentially lose some. Hardly any sort of gamble here.

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I just assume it would be sensible from the get go to say "First on PS4, but you can also get it on Xbox a year later" or something like that.

This is why people say you're an idiot. You clearly have no understanding of marketing at all.

Games that are shown at E3 for Sony's conference let's say, that are multiplat -- do they ever state "Play this on PS4 AND Xbox One."? No, because why the fuck would Sony advertise the Xbox One? Use your brain.

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Because if you are right, it won't sell well on the Xbox by the time they announce it, which would be a very bad business mood.

Why wouldn't it sell on the Xbox One? They'd probably announce a release date after the initial one, just like Rise of the Tomb Raider. I'm sure lots of people are going to buy that game on PS4.


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Except the point where it doesn't actually say it's going to be. You're just assuming it will be.
Because it's blindingly obvious. The only way it could be more obvious is if it physically beat you over the head.
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I think if it is, they're advertising it badly, but if Sony has more money pitched in then it makes a bit more sense.
It's as though you're completely new to the concept of timed exclusivity.
Whoever pays more first gets it first, and gets advertising in their favour.


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Could have done without the insults but whatever.

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What else could "Play it first on PS4" mean? If FF7 was truly a PS4 console exclusive, they would say "Playstation 4 exlusive" instead of neutering their marketing impact by saying "Play it a few months earlier on this console!"

Well I may as well just answer this one. Cloud was in Smash, bonds are thus made between Sony and Nintendo, Nintendo are developing a new console. If you would assume anything, then it would go to this new console, which would account for why there is no news on what else FF7 would be on, because the actual console hasn't been announced yet per say.

You have to agree that makes a lot more sense.


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Except the point where it doesn't actually say it's going to be. You're just assuming it will be.
Because it's blindingly obvious. The only way it could be more obvious is if it physically beat you over the head.

Look at my comment to that other guy. Makes a hell of a lot more sense.


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So until Square / Sony say otherwise its assumed its PS4 only. You can argue it Lemon,  but you'd need a proper source to confirm it.
You people are mind numbingly dim. We already know it isn't PS4 only.
FF7 has precedence on PC, as does the other PS4 games announced as well as NX due to Cloud's weird inclusion in Smash Bros. for no reason. Not Xbox.


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Could have done without the insults but whatever.

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What else could "Play it first on PS4" mean? If FF7 was truly a PS4 console exclusive, they would say "Playstation 4 exlusive" instead of neutering their marketing impact by saying "Play it a few months earlier on this console!"

Well I may as well just answer this one. Cloud was in Smash, bonds are thus made between Sony and Nintendo, Nintendo are developing a new console. If you would assume anything, then it would go to this new console, which would account for why there is no news on what else FF7 would be on, because the actual console hasn't been announced yet per say.

You have to agree that makes a lot more sense.
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Bottom line is, there's no reason to think it wouldn't come to Xbone.


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Could have done without the insults but whatever.

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What else could "Play it first on PS4" mean? If FF7 was truly a PS4 console exclusive, they would say "Playstation 4 exlusive" instead of neutering their marketing impact by saying "Play it a few months earlier on this console!"

Well I may as well just answer this one. Cloud was in Smash, bonds are thus made between Sony and Nintendo, Nintendo are developing a new console. If you would assume anything, then it would go to this new console, which would account for why there is no news on what else FF7 would be on, because the actual console hasn't been announced yet per say.

You have to agree that makes a lot more sense.
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To be honest I only just remembered that Nintendo we're a possibility in this myself, I'm pretty sure you two are the same.


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How is that grasping at straws?

There is no reason to doubt FFVII happening on Nintendo's next device.

I get that they are advertising the remake, but on a platform that won't get it and that has only had Cloud in side KH games and FF rhythm games?