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I think there are stronger examples out there.


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There doesn't need to be.


 
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I'm just saying. If it had to be one game, it would be either Catherine or No More Heroes.


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all it has is a little bit of ass


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all it has is a little bit of ass
sluts with swords
the biggest sluts are the twins, and they have pants on


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good answer

thats fine, i dont agree with it because constraints can make creation difficult, that said some manage better because their interests are just innocent

the pleasure of creation itself is difficult to come by these days, making something unique and enjoying the process lasts the rest of your life when you finally finish a project youve been working tirelessly on for weeks
I don't really view it as a "constraint" really. It's as much a constraint as anything else we feel uncomfortable with showing in movies, shows, or games. That's why we don't really have any toilet scenes that often, where we get to watch the MC take a dump during an off-day. And if there is, we often frown upon it, because it's disgusting.

Now, would you call that a constraint, or is it really kinda nice that we don't really encourage a lot of gross scenes like that in our games and films? I'd say the latter. I think if more movies had scenes like that, you yourself might even have a problem with it.

this might be nitpicking but depends if the uncomfortable scene means something

david lynch, stanley kubrick, quentin tarantino (probably more his earlier stuff), hallmark names in breakthrough filmmaking because of their impact, not to mention they had quite a lot of sexual themes in their films too

theyre well regarded because they broke the mold, gave way to more radical filmmaking because they did things their own way, for the people who didnt like it either didnt understand it or condemned it

if they have to ask themselves what makes them as a filmmaker uncomfortable themselves and not have to have a second thought about it because it works so well, id have them go with that

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That's how I view depictions of sexuality. Sex (beyond my own personal reptilian interest in it) is a biological process that's honestly no more glamorous than taking a shit. We want it for no intellectually significant reason other than it gets our dicks hard, or our vaginas wet. It's just sick.

I play movies and watch games (I realize I messed up there, but I'm keeping it that way because it's funny), most of the time, for the messages and the themes, and you have to know how to respond to these messages, because they're not always good or valuable.

controversy never steered a good filmmaker away from their reins, its the reason we have films like platoon, hurt locker, black hawk and SPR

im no filmmaker but id imagine they wouldnt give a second thought about sex if their gut feeling decided that was that

again im not saying its wrong to not like that stuff, just having second thoughts could potentially impact a film greatly and you could tell whether a director had been stuck on a decision that shouldnt have thought about for so long
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this might be nitpicking but depends if the uncomfortable scene means something

david lynch, stanley kubrick, quentin tarantino (probably more his earlier stuff), hallmark names in breakthrough filmmaking because of their impact, not to mention they had quite a lot of sexual themes in their films too
Well yeah, of course. The line "crude depiction of sexuality" that I used earlier matters here. If your art contains something "uncomfortable" in it, it's generally okay as long as it has some kind of artistic meaning or significance to the plot (at the very least).

Scenes where characters engage in graphic depictions of drug use (needle injection, coke-snorting, etc.) trigger the fuck out of me, yet the Wolf of Wall Street is a fantastic movie and Requiem for a Dream is in my top 3 favorite films of all time. They have graphic depictions of drug use, sure, but they're absolutely integral to the plot and--in Requiem's case--have symbolic, artistic significance. Without which they'd be overall worse movies.

The problem is this: There is no artistic meaning behind 2B's ass. It's only there for the male gaze--period.

The kind of scenes I'm talking about are scenes that don't add anything to the work of art, beyond pleasing a heterosexual male audience. In the case of a pointless defecation scene, this pleases almost nobody, because nobody wants to see a defecation scene in Iron Man 4. It's unnecessary. Nobody wants it. It couldn't possibly have any use, meaning, or significance unless you forced it--and that's never good.

But yeah, if you can find some meaningful or artistic way to have sexual content in your movie, I can find that acceptable and even tasteful, depending on how it's executed. But it SO rarely is. Especially when it comes to video games.


 
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I think there are stronger examples out there.
I can easily think of one, and it involves an on rails shooter where you make girls have an orgasm.


 
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I'm just saying. If it had to be one game, it would be either Catherine or No More Heroes.
Catherine is anime tier because Atlus, but it's not Otaku at all. Here, I'll fetch you what I just posted.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/511740/

Otaku is like the lowest of the low. To call anything with the Japanese anime touch on it as Otaku, is about as inaccurate as calling anything with a gun in it, a Call of Duty clone.
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It's only there for the male gaze--period.
My female friend admires that ass more than I do.

Sexist pig.


 
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ass isn't allowed
Why does a robot need to have one?
I dunno

Why do robots need to exist


 
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It's only there for the male gaze--period.
My female friend admires that ass more than I do.

Sexist pig.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

If it were there for the female gaze only, that would still be abhorrent. The point is, it tends to be the males in the audience who game developers cater to the most; hence, "it's only there for the male gaze." But that doesn't automatically mean it can't be enjoyed by degenerates of all sexes, ages, colors, and creeds. MLP is made for girls, but grown men happen to like it more.

Not that any of this matters, because even if a game had some sexual content that was specifically designed for everyone, I would still have a problem with that.

In other words,

Spoiler
NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO ENJOY SEX
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Why does a robot need to have one?
I dunno
Yes you do. They don't need one, but you know exactly why they gave her one. And it wasn't just because they wanted to.
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Checkmate they don't
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Yes you do. They don't need one, but you know exactly why they gave her one. And it wasn't just because they wanted to.
yeah


 
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ass isn't allowed
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Yes you do. They don't need one, but you know exactly why they gave her one. And it wasn't just because they wanted to.
yeah
So it's bad and shouldn't be in the game.


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but what is bad?


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It's only there for the male gaze--period.
My female friend admires that ass more than I do.

Sexist pig.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

If it were there for the female gaze only, that would still be abhorrent. The point is, it tends to be the males in the audience who game developers cater to the most; hence, "it's only there for the male gaze." But that doesn't automatically mean it can't be enjoyed by degenerates of all sexes, ages, colors, and creeds. MLP is made for girls, but grown men happen to like it more.

Not that any of this matters, because even if a game had some sexual content that was specifically designed for everyone, I would still have a problem with that.

In other words,

Spoiler
NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO ENJOY SEX
I appreciate the actual reply. I know what you were getting at, I was just teasing <3


 
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I appreciate the actual reply. I know what you were getting at, I was just teasing <3
Did you have anything to say about my thoughts on the demo, or did Tru's response nail all your points?

Just to steer this back on topic.


 
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I appreciate the actual reply. I know what you were getting at, I was just teasing <3
Did you have anything to say about my thoughts on the demo, or did Tru's response nail all your points?

Just to steer this back on topic.
I can't play it cuz PS4, but yeah I agree with both you and Tru. The music is honestly my second biggest sell for this game, aside from the gameplay. I like the design of the main girl, but I do agree the deliberate pantsu shots can be silly and eye rolley. Idk how I feel about the camera push. It could both serve as a no no, and more enticing on how you look at it.

Either way, I am looking forward to it. Will be playing Revengeance to hype it.


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NVM it was photoshoped
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is it pronounced "nee-air" or "neer"?