Also the bigger presence of melee, the different classes of tanks, absence of attack boats/ helicopters/ rpgs/ assault rifles/ LAVs and stuff like horses, artillery, battleships, airships, larger presence of bolt-action rifles and chemical warfare make it hard to just do a reskin
Quote from: LC on May 06, 2016, 04:26:23 PMIt'll be hard to do a paintjob of a modern shooter in a WW1 setting.Aircraft for example will function completely differently due to their lack of lock on missiles and AA will have to be done via flak emplacements. Two seater planes have already been confirmed as back gunners are present meaning that you'll have to rely on your teammates to be your counter measure.So....a paint job? A plane's a plane.
It'll be hard to do a paintjob of a modern shooter in a WW1 setting.Aircraft for example will function completely differently due to their lack of lock on missiles and AA will have to be done via flak emplacements. Two seater planes have already been confirmed as back gunners are present meaning that you'll have to rely on your teammates to be your counter measure.
Incomplete painted shit with overpriced shit dropletsTheyre gonna have to come up with lots of gadgets and such to make such a bland setting goodNothing short of a new engine can fix the current terrible engine and floaty gameplay though, unless they go back to 1.5
Quote from: BaconShelf on May 06, 2016, 04:29:52 PMAlso the bigger presence of melee, the different classes of tanks, absence of attack boats/ helicopters/ rpgs/ assault rifles/ LAVs and stuff like horses, artillery, battleships, airships, larger presence of bolt-action rifles and chemical warfare make it hard to just do a reskinThey've been working on it for 3 years. It's not a year after release, so no it's not a reskin.
Every shooter is a paint job with that logic
Quote from: Luciana on May 06, 2016, 04:40:56 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on May 06, 2016, 04:29:52 PMAlso the bigger presence of melee, the different classes of tanks, absence of attack boats/ helicopters/ rpgs/ assault rifles/ LAVs and stuff like horses, artillery, battleships, airships, larger presence of bolt-action rifles and chemical warfare make it hard to just do a reskinThey've been working on it for 3 years. It's not a year after release, so no it's not a reskin.that tooBut I more meant that the sheer amount of changes fundamentally change how the game plays I'm really excited to see gameplay of this now. Hopefully the open beta will leave good impressions, too. Here's hoping Rush becomes the central mode of the game and they design the maps around it.
Quote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 04:40:05 PMQuote from: LC on May 06, 2016, 04:26:23 PMIt'll be hard to do a paintjob of a modern shooter in a WW1 setting.Aircraft for example will function completely differently due to their lack of lock on missiles and AA will have to be done via flak emplacements. Two seater planes have already been confirmed as back gunners are present meaning that you'll have to rely on your teammates to be your counter measure.So....a paint job? A plane's a plane.Not really.You know what actually is a paint job though? Final Fantasy.
Quote from: True Turquoise on May 06, 2016, 04:41:40 PMEvery shooter is a paint job with that logicAs far as CoD and BF go, yes.
Quote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 04:46:15 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on May 06, 2016, 04:41:40 PMEvery shooter is a paint job with that logicAs far as CoD and BF go, yes.Until this one yes.
Quote from: True Turquoise on May 06, 2016, 04:48:26 PMQuote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 04:46:15 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on May 06, 2016, 04:41:40 PMEvery shooter is a paint job with that logicAs far as CoD and BF go, yes.Until this one yes.I don't think Battlefield 3 was a reskin of Bad Company or 2. When they actually have more than a year to develop, they actually, ya know, do different things.
After Bad Company 2Yeah, im a liiiiittle cynical but theres hardly any real gameplay of it apart from a few seconds so maybe ill be pleasantly surprised.
I'm honestly not sure why insane amounts of customization that always boils down to everything other than 5 weapons and two or three attachments for each that are actually viable seems to be in heavy demand right now. Battlefield 2 remains the best game in the series to date and all it had was an alternate unlockable primary weapon for each class.
Quote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 04:54:34 PMAfter Bad Company 2Yeah, im a liiiiittle cynical but theres hardly any real gameplay of it apart from a few seconds so maybe ill be pleasantly surprised.I think people are just happy it's not another modern/future shooter. We've had SO much since 2007 and people are just sick of them. WW1 has never really been done. You can't really blame them for being excited.
Quote from: Luciana on May 06, 2016, 04:55:31 PMQuote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 04:54:34 PMAfter Bad Company 2Yeah, im a liiiiittle cynical but theres hardly any real gameplay of it apart from a few seconds so maybe ill be pleasantly surprised.I think people are just happy it's not another modern/future shooter. We've had SO much since 2007 and people are just sick of them. WW1 has never really been done. You can't really blame them for being excited.yeah i get the excitement but a 'new' setting just doesnt do it for me if the core is the same.
4 did it way too much (I mean, you could probably have three sniper rifles and you'd have all the major differences you can get), but the variety in sights is particularly nice to suit weapon to play style and whatnot.
Quote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 05:06:20 PMQuote from: Luciana on May 06, 2016, 04:55:31 PMQuote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 04:54:34 PMAfter Bad Company 2Yeah, im a liiiiittle cynical but theres hardly any real gameplay of it apart from a few seconds so maybe ill be pleasantly surprised.I think people are just happy it's not another modern/future shooter. We've had SO much since 2007 and people are just sick of them. WW1 has never really been done. You can't really blame them for being excited.yeah i get the excitement but a 'new' setting just doesnt do it for me if the core is the same.Core to you seems to mean that it shares the same genre when it comes to shooters at least.
Quote from: BaconShelf on May 06, 2016, 05:06:00 PM4 did it way too much (I mean, you could probably have three sniper rifles and you'd have all the major differences you can get), but the variety in sights is particularly nice to suit weapon to play style and whatnot.noMaybe it's because sniping is my laifu, but they each have very distinct characteristics barring one.CSLR4 - Easy 100m sniping (there is a reason why it's the intro rifle)Scout Elite - Doubletapping at short-mid range, if you aren't a headshotter then it's for youM40a5 - Rapid headshot chaining at mid.338 recon - running and gunning at short-midL96 - solid midrange rifle with the bonus of firing two shots in a steadied breath*FYJS - max agility countersniper rifleM98baller - Extreme range countersniper or bipod support rifleSRR-61 - trickshotter trashgunCS5 - suppressed with no penalty (within a certain range)SV-98 - ironsighting or free equivalent of the L96SR338 - dmr hybrid but shit because of spreadonly clone rifle is the Jng-90 - M98baller but for turkroaches*forgot the asteriskthis might be down to the squad perk or have been removed but I remember playing with it doing this for a long ass time.
Do something with the art style, or rather add one because realism is dull <.<Take some liberties with the setting, dont ground it so much.
Quote from: LC on May 06, 2016, 05:12:02 PMQuote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 05:06:20 PMQuote from: Luciana on May 06, 2016, 04:55:31 PMQuote from: oss on May 06, 2016, 04:54:34 PMAfter Bad Company 2Yeah, im a liiiiittle cynical but theres hardly any real gameplay of it apart from a few seconds so maybe ill be pleasantly surprised.I think people are just happy it's not another modern/future shooter. We've had SO much since 2007 and people are just sick of them. WW1 has never really been done. You can't really blame them for being excited.yeah i get the excitement but a 'new' setting just doesnt do it for me if the core is the same.Core to you seems to mean that it shares the same genre when it comes to shooters at least.Do something with the movement. WW1 was muddy, make it organic so it feels muddy.Do something with the art style, or rather add one because realism is dull <.<Take some liberties with the setting, dont ground it so much.
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