My Metal Gear/Solid Marathon (MGS2 complete)

Girl of Mystery · August 28, 2015, 11:52:36 PM

Also, updated OP.

Verbatim · August 28, 2015, 11:56:02 PM

atta girl

Luciana · August 29, 2015, 02:16:11 AM

I wanna go over your review with MGS 2 so I'll spoiler it for... whoever wants to play.

Spoiler

Yeah, Campbell was supposed to sound robotic in 2 because he's GW. As for the story itself. It is easily one of the riskiest games ever I think. It is VASTLY underrated what Kojima did. Keep in mind that this was THE game that was getting hyped for its time, and literally everything shown to the audience, game reviewers, etc, was the Tanker.

You also have to keep in mind that Kojima made Raiden whiny and bitchy on purpose until the very end. He was supposed to represent the player. The game is basically a huge message, both to players in real life, and to events in the real world. I want to link you a review that I highly recommend you watch. It will open your eyes to the genius writing that MGS 2 is.

Bear in mind you need to set aside time for it, but yeah. It's worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8AVbjd94vc

and this starting from here as well. But you can watch this all too. I sure as hell did.

https://youtu.be/T-2YuPGYabw?t=1738

The internet bit really hit home for me around 31 mins. I just find it amazing that he could predict everything so accurately back in 2001.

Girl of Mystery · August 29, 2015, 02:21:12 AM

I knew about the bait and switch, so it wasn't something that negatively impacted anything for me.
And the whole "prediction" thing was pretty cool. It was the one thing that stood out the most in the story.

Luciana · August 29, 2015, 02:24:03 AM

Well yeah, we all know now. But put it into context at the time and it's amazing. It's also amazing how Raiden is supposed to represent the player and seem shallow and boring.

Then suddenly towards the end we learn he has probably the darkest past of ANY protagonist in the Metal Gear series, and find out he has depth. And he directly rejects the player by throwing away those dog tags at the end.

And how Kojima gave the message at the end that he wants his team to go on without him with this series and that they don't need him. Sadly, they DO need him.

Big Boss · August 29, 2015, 05:50:24 AM

Yay, now you can start my favorite game ever.

Doctor Doom · August 29, 2015, 12:58:28 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on August 29, 2015, 05:50:24 AM

Yay, now you can start my favorite game ever.

Ghost Babel, right?

Big Boss · August 29, 2015, 06:00:30 PM

Quote from: Liquid Plotmaster on August 29, 2015, 12:58:28 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on August 29, 2015, 05:50:24 AM
Yay, now you can start my favorite game ever.

Ghost Babel, right?

duhhh

True Turquoise · August 29, 2015, 06:11:11 PM

Quote from: Luciana on August 21, 2015, 01:24:04 AM

sounds like my sex life

or love life

whichever

.-.

gats · August 29, 2015, 06:11:46 PM

dont do it gats
reeee

Girl of Mystery · August 29, 2015, 06:17:07 PM

Fuck off

Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:01:49 PM

If you need to scroll down to report him but don't wanna see potential spoilers, I am here

Guts, stop being a dick....my snake got smaller :c

Girl of Mystery · August 29, 2015, 07:07:42 PM

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Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:10:11 PM

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Just providing a Haven until the cavalry arrived.

gats · August 29, 2015, 07:12:03 PM

like the terminator i will be back

Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:13:04 PM

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like the terminator i will be back

And make a horrible comeback years later? Please do.

Girl of Mystery · August 29, 2015, 07:15:11 PM

Quote from: guts on August 29, 2015, 07:12:03 PM

like the terminator i will be back

and you'll be hit with the consequences of the new rules.

gats · August 29, 2015, 07:15:52 PM

Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 29, 2015, 07:15:11 PM

Quote from: guts on August 29, 2015, 07:12:03 PM
like the terminator i will be back
and you'll be hit with the consequences of the new rules.

no new rules have been officially announced so far

Mr. Psychologist · August 29, 2015, 07:17:24 PM

FYI Yutaka is covering at the moment because I'm uhh busy shooting things >_>

Girl of Mystery · August 29, 2015, 07:17:32 PM

Quote from: guts on August 29, 2015, 07:15:52 PM

Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 29, 2015, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: guts on August 29, 2015, 07:12:03 PM
like the terminator i will be back
and you'll be hit with the consequences of the new rules.
no new rules have been officially announced so far

i know, but they're going to be

Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:18:07 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on August 29, 2015, 07:17:24 PM

FYI Yutaka is covering at the moment because I'm uhh busy shooting things >_>

amirtie?

Doctor Doom · August 29, 2015, 07:19:54 PM

when spoilers are posted

men become demons

Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:22:09 PM

So what is that...'horn' in his head? Is it shrapnel? Or an experiment gone wrong?

Doctor Doom · August 29, 2015, 07:23:49 PM

It's shrapnel. He got into a helicopter crash at the end of Ground Zeroes and apparently woke up with it in his head.

Girl of Mystery · August 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM

Quote from: Batch on August 29, 2015, 07:22:09 PM

So what is that...'horn' in his head? Is it shrapnel? Or an experiment gone wrong?

Shrapnel. But it somehow grows (it's MGS. How it does this isn't important).
It's supposed to cast his shadow to make it look like a demon.

Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:28:53 PM

Quote from: Liquid Plotmaster on August 29, 2015, 07:23:49 PM

It's shrapnel. He got into a helicopter crash at the end of Ground Zeroes and apparently woke up with it in his head.

So, this is only speculation (and the fact I haven't kept up with Ground Zeros or TPP) the shrapnel makes some pretty messed up physiological events for poor old Snake? Casue from the trailers, he doesn't seem all there....but this is the problem with prequels and I hope 'Nanomachines' arent the answer.

Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:30:14 PM

Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM

Quote from: Batch on August 29, 2015, 07:22:09 PM
So what is that...'horn' in his head? Is it shrapnel? Or an experiment gone wrong?
Shrapnel. But it somehow grows (it's MGS. How it does this isn't important).
It's supposed to cast his shadow to make it look like a demon.

Well.....he did some bad stuff.....but for a good reason, but I want to know how it grows....or he's just imagining it.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · August 29, 2015, 07:32:31 PM

Quote from: Batch on August 29, 2015, 07:30:14 PM

Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: Batch on August 29, 2015, 07:22:09 PM
So what is that...'horn' in his head? Is it shrapnel? Or an experiment gone wrong?
Shrapnel. But it somehow grows (it's MGS. How it does this isn't important).
It's supposed to cast his shadow to make it look like a demon.
Well.....he did some bad stuff.....but for a good reason, but I want to know how it grows....or he's just imagining it.

They can't surgically remove it because it would cause permanent drain bamage. I've just kind of assumed that they're just letting it dislodge on its own.

And yes, it does cause psychological problems. Theory has it that some things in the trailers (burning Moby Dick flying through the sky, for example) might be the result of that.

Batch · August 29, 2015, 07:35:24 PM

Quote from: Prime CIA on August 29, 2015, 07:32:31 PM

Quote from: Batch on August 29, 2015, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 29, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: Batch on August 29, 2015, 07:22:09 PM
So what is that...'horn' in his head? Is it shrapnel? Or an experiment gone wrong?
Shrapnel. But it somehow grows (it's MGS. How it does this isn't important).
It's supposed to cast his shadow to make it look like a demon.
Well.....he did some bad stuff.....but for a good reason, but I want to know how it grows....or he's just imagining it.
They can't surgically remove it because it would cause permanent drain bamage. I've just kind of assumed that they're just letting it dislodge on its own.

O_e

That...pains me to thought. I'm just curious as to how they explain it to the future MGS games...Kinda feeling hyped....

Doctor Doom · August 29, 2015, 07:35:33 PM

Quote from: Batch on August 29, 2015, 07:28:53 PM

Quote from: Liquid Plotmaster on August 29, 2015, 07:23:49 PM
It's shrapnel. He got into a helicopter crash at the end of Ground Zeroes and apparently woke up with it in his head.
So, this is only speculation (and the fact I haven't kept up with Ground Zeros or TPP) the shrapnel makes some pretty messed up physiological events for poor old Snake? Casue from the trailers, he doesn't seem all there....but this is the problem with prequels and I hope 'Nanomachines' arent the answer.

Spoiler

Apparently it made him forget all the languages he'd learned except for English, forcing him to rely on translators in TPP.

Not sure how much of a spoiler that is or if it's already known, but after Guts pulling his shit I figured I'd be careful.