Mortal Kombat X to make female character more proportionate

Mordo · February 17, 2015, 03:53:43 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 17, 2015, 03:47:29 PM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on February 17, 2015, 03:40:10 PM
Whatever keeps the feminists quiet I guess.
Feminism isn't bad, at least not the idea of it. It's when bitches take it too far that it's annoying and it gives everyone a bad face.

KINDA like Religion

Eh, if by feminism you mean equal opportunity between the sexes then yeah, I'm all for it. Saying that, it's pretty much been established in most of the western world at this point, which is why a lot of third wave feminists are so divisive over what constitutes as an actual issue.

I have no patience for the shrieking misandrists that seem to have hijacked the movement either, which unfortunately doesn't seem to be the fringe minority anymore.

Verbatim · February 17, 2015, 03:53:58 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 17, 2015, 03:45:12 PM

No, I'm just raising another point about sexualization of men or whatever since it's not really as "in your face" as video games.

I appreciate that, but it's not necessary to remind me--I'm very aware of it.

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I just don't think showing fan service to females in video games is always objectifying or whatever you were bringing up. I think people should really know the difference between fantasy and real life. Much like porn.

It's not objectifying, it's just... insulting. To my intelligence. To think that the developers think that, as a male gamer, I can't be interested in this character unless she has her tits exposed and bouncing all over the place and shit, with her exaggerated hips, and maybe a pantie shot or two.

If that's how you advertise your female characters, I'm not fucking buying it.

And if you do, I think you're part of the problem. And it disgusts me. You think it's not a problem--that's fine, unless you're unable to explain to me why it isn't a problem, and no one has (ever) been able to do that yet. And I've argued with people over this for years.

If the SJW "movement" had any part in the decision to make the women in Mortal Kombat more proportionally realistic, then I consider this a victory.

Verbatim · February 17, 2015, 03:56:39 PM

I'm off to go eat, if anyone's still willing to discuss this rationally.

The Waifu Master · February 17, 2015, 03:56:59 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2015, 03:56:39 PM

I'm off to go eat, if anyone's still willing to discuss this rationally.

Irony.

Luciana · February 17, 2015, 04:01:21 PM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on February 17, 2015, 03:53:43 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 17, 2015, 03:47:29 PM
Quote from: Madman Mordo on February 17, 2015, 03:40:10 PM
Whatever keeps the feminists quiet I guess.
Feminism isn't bad, at least not the idea of it. It's when bitches take it too far that it's annoying and it gives everyone a bad face.

KINDA like Religion
Eh, if by feminism you mean equal opportunity between the sexes then yeah, I'm all for it. Saying that, it's pretty much been established in most of the western world at this point, which is why a lot of third wave feminists are so divisive over what constitutes as an actual issue.

I have no patience for the shrieking misandrists that seem to have hijacked the movement either, which unfortunately doesn't seem to be the fringe minority anymore.

Yeah I hate it too.

Luciana · February 17, 2015, 04:03:49 PM

I don't think it's a problem because I think it fits in the fantasy world. Can it get to be a little much? Absolutely, but from what I gather, you're against any and all fanservice. I remember you bringing up Kill la Kill, which has just as much GUY fan service as it does female, yet no one seems to remember that. A double standard, much like a lot of things in life. Guys can fuck as many girls as they want and they're cool. Girl does it? SLUT. Guys can't cry because it makes them look weak, girls can. Double standards. A cancer really, and those are just a few examples.

The point is, if you're actually going for a compelling and in depth character and all you have to rely on is the lowest common denominator (aka fanservice) then yes, I am against it. But if your character is some stereotype or goes into something completely silly, I don't have a problem with it. Mainly because I know it's not what females are like in the real world, because my brain is actually grounded in the real world. It becomes a problem when people expect women to be like that. Much like it's a problem if females expect every guy to be some lean/ripped person with a 12 inch cock.

Edit: I think we can both agree that it can be annoying, yes. Heck, even in KLK I was annoyed by how much of it there was, but it wasn't enough to put me completely off.

Also, I wanna know what you had to eat

Verbatim · February 17, 2015, 07:42:01 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 17, 2015, 04:03:49 PM

I don't think it's a problem because I think it fits in the fantasy world. Can it get to be a little much? Absolutely, but from what I gather, you're against any and all fanservice.

Yes.

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I remember you bringing up Kill la Kill, which has just as much GUY fan service as it does female, yet no one seems to remember that. A double standard, much like a lot of things in life. Guys can fuck as many girls as they want and they're cool. Girl does it? SLUT. Guys can't cry because it makes them look weak, girls can. Double standards. A cancer really, and those are just a few examples.

I agree. And just for the record, I have no misgivings over calling promiscuous men sluts. I don't think sexual promiscuity is cool at all. Gender doesn't matter.

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The point is, if you're actually going for a compelling and in depth character and all you have to rely on is the lowest common denominator (aka fanservice) then yes, I am against it. But if your character is some stereotype or goes into something completely silly, I don't have a problem with it. Mainly because I know it's not what females are like in the real world, because my brain is actually grounded in the real world. It becomes a problem when people expect women to be like that. Much like it's a problem if females expect every guy to be some lean/ripped person with a 12 inch cock.

In my opinion, fanservice only serves to reinforce all the stereotypes and double standards that you claim to hate so much. Just because you are able to shrug it off because "that's just the way it is" or whatever doesn't actually justify its existence. If it doesn't add to the artistic merit of the game/show/movie/book/etc., and only serves as fodder for the LCD, it shouldn't be there. And the more we allow it to remain there, the shittier the entertainment industry will become. And I would argue that the entertainment industry hasn't ever been much shittier.

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Edit: I think we can both agree that it can be annoying, yes. Heck, even in KLK I was annoyed by how much of it there was, but it wasn't enough to put me completely off.

Also, I wanna know what you had to eat

If Kill la Kill wasn't enough to put you off, is anything?
Where do you draw the line?

Because I draw the line at a single gainax.

My family and I went to Red Lobster. I had shrimp. Which is funny, because I'm actually a vegan, but I've heard in a few vegan circles that shrimp is fair game, because they're not sentient--they're basically just bugs. So there's that.

Comet · February 17, 2015, 08:11:49 PM

fucking tvtropes.

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Luciana · February 17, 2015, 08:14:36 PM

And you guys said arguing (or debating in my eyes) with Verb was a bad idea, but it seems we've agreed upon a few things and offered our opinions without going at one another's throats.

Luciana · February 17, 2015, 08:16:55 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2015, 07:42:01 PM

Because I draw the line at a single gainax.

My family and I went to Red Lobster. I had shrimp. Which is funny, because I'm actually a vegan, but I've heard in a few vegan circles that shrimp is fair game, because they're not sentient--they're basically just bugs. So there's that.

I think things like uhh... Highschool of the Dead was annoyingly much. Like the tits swaying with each bounce and individually. Like, when it gets to literally be too much, I just roll my eyes and go "really?" Once it breaks the natural physics (like, to an insane degree) is when I just think it's annoying.

As for the Red Lobster thing, well.. you heathen.

Deleted · February 17, 2015, 08:45:27 PM

Verb hates gainex?!?!?!
Mods mods mods mods mods mods mods mods mods mods mods

Verbatim · February 18, 2015, 12:22:51 AM

Quote from: Luciana on February 17, 2015, 08:16:55 PM

I think things like uhh... Highschool of the Dead was annoyingly much. Like the tits swaying with each bounce and individually. Like, when it gets to literally be too much, I just roll my eyes and go "really?" Once it breaks the natural physics (like, to an insane degree) is when I just think it's annoying.

As for the Red Lobster thing, well.. you heathen.

Well, I wasn't the one who made the decision to eat there, but... I do enjoy eating there...

but i'm glad you can at least see where i'm coming from, i guess
that's really all i ask, if you disagree with my extremities

Doctor Doom · February 18, 2015, 03:58:08 AM

Quote from: Luciana on February 17, 2015, 08:16:55 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2015, 07:42:01 PM
Because I draw the line at a single gainax.

My family and I went to Red Lobster. I had shrimp. Which is funny, because I'm actually a vegan, but I've heard in a few vegan circles that shrimp is fair game, because they're not sentient--they're basically just bugs. So there's that.
I think things like uhh... Highschool of the Dead was annoyingly much. Like the tits swaying with each bounce and individually. Like, when it gets to literally be too much, I just roll my eyes and go "really?" Once it breaks the natural physics (like, to an insane degree) is when I just think it's annoying.

As for the Red Lobster thing, well.. you heathen.

I loved that - not because it was enticing, but because the boob physics became hilarious after a while, culminating in the utter insanity that is bullet-time bullet-dodging boob swaying.

Jono · February 18, 2015, 04:00:56 AM

Thank you based Netherrealm.

Hopefully we don't ever see Sheeva like this again.

Verbatim · February 18, 2015, 04:52:16 AM

Quote from: Plotmaster on February 18, 2015, 03:58:08 AM

I loved that - not because it was enticing, but because the boob physics became hilarious after a while, culminating in the utter insanity that is bullet-time bullet-dodging boob swaying.

what is funny about that

what

all it does is make me want to kill people

Tyger · February 18, 2015, 08:28:11 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 18, 2015, 04:52:16 AM

Quote from: Plotmaster on February 18, 2015, 03:58:08 AM
I loved that - not because it was enticing, but because the boob physics became hilarious after a while, culminating in the utter insanity that is bullet-time bullet-dodging boob swaying.
what is funny about that

what

all it does is make me want to kill people

then you are mentally unstable and should see a psychiatrist

Verbatim · February 18, 2015, 08:29:48 AM

not even close

Deleted · February 18, 2015, 11:05:22 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 18, 2015, 04:52:16 AM

Quote from: Plotmaster on February 18, 2015, 03:58:08 AM
I loved that - not because it was enticing, but because the boob physics became hilarious after a while, culminating in the utter insanity that is bullet-time bullet-dodging boob swaying.
what is funny about that

what

all it does is make me want to kill people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdity

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This is why nobody likes you, Verb

Verbatim · February 18, 2015, 11:06:49 AM

because i'm vulgar?

well boohoo

Deleted · February 18, 2015, 11:16:32 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 18, 2015, 11:06:49 AM

because i'm vulgar?

well boohoo

no because you're an emo stick in the mud and perpetual have a space elevator shoved up your ass.

Luciana · February 18, 2015, 12:26:54 PM

Quote from: Plotmaster on February 18, 2015, 03:58:08 AM

Quote from: Luciana on February 17, 2015, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2015, 07:42:01 PM
Because I draw the line at a single gainax.

My family and I went to Red Lobster. I had shrimp. Which is funny, because I'm actually a vegan, but I've heard in a few vegan circles that shrimp is fair game, because they're not sentient--they're basically just bugs. So there's that.
I think things like uhh... Highschool of the Dead was annoyingly much. Like the tits swaying with each bounce and individually. Like, when it gets to literally be too much, I just roll my eyes and go "really?" Once it breaks the natural physics (like, to an insane degree) is when I just think it's annoying.

As for the Red Lobster thing, well.. you heathen.

I loved that - not because it was enticing, but because the boob physics became hilarious after a while, culminating in the utter insanity that is bullet-time bullet-dodging boob swaying.

I hated it really. I don't find it attractive at all. Actually I kind of find it gross. Bouncing is fine but when they each have a life of their own, you can go fuck off Japan.

Verbatim · February 18, 2015, 02:01:53 PM

even a little bouncing is intolerable

the animators didn't make them bounce for the sake of realism--they did it because they know it'll entice perverts
that's the ONLY reason

because apparently, they think it's the only way to keep male viewers interested
it's an insult, and it's never acceptable

Naoto · February 18, 2015, 02:58:10 PM

Puritans are tiring.

The Lord Ruler · February 18, 2015, 03:48:25 PM

But titties

Doctor Doom · February 18, 2015, 03:51:16 PM

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on February 18, 2015, 03:48:25 PM

But titties

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on February 18, 2015, 03:48:25 PM

But titties

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on February 18, 2015, 03:48:25 PM

But titties

The Waifu Master · February 18, 2015, 03:54:13 PM

BUTT TITTIES

big sponge · February 18, 2015, 04:54:33 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 18, 2015, 02:01:53 PM

even a little bouncing is intolerable

Umm Verby.

Boobies kind of bounce naturally. You're asking people to forgo physics in favor of your own prudish tastes.

Verbatim · February 18, 2015, 04:59:11 PM

Quote from: LC on February 18, 2015, 04:54:33 PM

Umm Verby.

Boobies kind of bounce naturally. You're asking people to forgo physics in favor of your own prudish tastes.

Humans don't have outlines, either.

What's your fucking point?

Who the fuck said cartoons have to have perfect real life physics, you dumb shit?

Quote from: Verbatim on February 18, 2015, 02:01:53 PM

the animators didn't make them bounce for the sake of realism--they did it because they know it'll entice perverts
that's the ONLY reason

Verbatim · February 18, 2015, 05:03:21 PM

"we gotta hav da tittiz bowns cuz we gotta have da lawz of fizziks in our cartoonz"

fuck you

fuck

you

Incan · February 18, 2015, 05:04:16 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 18, 2015, 04:59:11 PM

Quote from: LC on February 18, 2015, 04:54:33 PM
Umm Verby.

Boobies kind of bounce naturally. You're asking people to forgo physics in favor of your own prudish tastes.
Humans don't have outlines, either.

What's your fucking point?

Who the fuck said cartoons have to have perfect real life physics, you dumb shit?

Quote from: Verbatim on February 18, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
the animators didn't make them bounce for the sake of realism--they did it because they know it'll entice perverts
that's the ONLY reason

I don't understand you at all. At first you're saying that it's good they are reducing proportions to make it more realistic, but you're against boobs being realistic because it's some how exploitive?

What do you want exactly? Like seriously, what do you want women to be like in games?