I don't even know how I feel about this. I mean, I guess I hadn't really thought much about it recently >.> I still feel like it's head-and-shoulders above PSN and NN, which seem to be made out of duct tape by comparison, but the difference is not as dramatic as it used to be. PSN started the obligatory free old games thing, but I still can't ignore that I've had a terrible experience doing pretty much anything with it, from downloading and installing tiny updates in a timely fashion, to not having a lag slideshow, to not getting my account (and everyone else's) leaked multiple times.Seriously, PSN keeps getting hacked and Sony still keeps users' data in fucking plaintext.
Quote from: Kupo on October 07, 2015, 08:56:40 AMI don't even know how I feel about this. I mean, I guess I hadn't really thought much about it recently >.> I still feel like it's head-and-shoulders above PSN and NN, which seem to be made out of duct tape by comparison, but the difference is not as dramatic as it used to be. PSN started the obligatory free old games thing, but I still can't ignore that I've had a terrible experience doing pretty much anything with it, from downloading and installing tiny updates in a timely fashion, to not having a lag slideshow, to not getting my account (and everyone else's) leaked multiple times.Seriously, PSN keeps getting hacked and Sony still keeps users' data in fucking plaintext.I actually haven't been having that many issues with PSN, save this Sep7agon FOX-HOUND Unit Community not showing up. I've always found myself having a better time with it than Live, even in the PS3 days.But I suppose I was more focused on the "MS not allowing Valve to release free DLC because it set a dangerous precedent for the other developers" part of the video because it irks me more.
I totally believe it though. Around that time, MS was rather, er... atrocious when it came to DLC and the store in general. Cutting so many timed exclusivity DLC deals, and a reluctance to give anything away for free or for cheap. It was a pretty aggressive strategy that kept Sony in the dirt for a while, but it wasn't exactly respectable or consumer-friendly.
Quote from: Kupo on October 07, 2015, 09:11:29 AMI totally believe it though. Around that time, MS was rather, er... atrocious when it came to DLC and the store in general. Cutting so many timed exclusivity DLC deals, and a reluctance to give anything away for free or for cheap. It was a pretty aggressive strategy that kept Sony in the dirt for a while, but it wasn't exactly respectable or consumer-friendly.I didn't get an Xbox 360 until 2010 so I must've missed some of this stuff. Sounds awful, though.I really enjoyed the PS+ method on the PS3 -- it wasn't mandatory but special benefits were available if you had it. Free games and discounts.I'm not going to pretend Sony is some paragon of virtue in the industry but I really liked that model.
GWG is great though. The fact that you don't lose all your games the second you stop paying your subscription is godlike.
Quote from: Kupo on October 07, 2015, 01:22:09 PMQuote from: Flee on October 07, 2015, 11:35:59 AMGWG is great though. The fact that you don't lose all your games the second you stop paying your subscription is godlike.Yeah, Xbox Live has always been good about stuff like that. ...Wait, does PS+ take them away if you cancel?As far as I know, they remain permanently fixed to your account but you can only keep playing them as long as you have an active PS+ membership.
Quote from: Flee on October 07, 2015, 11:35:59 AMGWG is great though. The fact that you don't lose all your games the second you stop paying your subscription is godlike.Yeah, Xbox Live has always been good about stuff like that. ...Wait, does PS+ take them away if you cancel?
Quote from: Flee on October 07, 2015, 01:23:55 PMAs far as I know, they remain permanently fixed to your account but you can only keep playing them as long as you have an active PS+ membership.Wow, that's... not good.
As far as I know, they remain permanently fixed to your account but you can only keep playing them as long as you have an active PS+ membership.
yeah but xbox doesn't get hacked nearly as often or as severly as PSN so.....Gold is paying for security
paying monthly isn't a huge deal
Lets wait for that UI update to go global + backwards compatibility
I think you guys are missing the point. I'm not saying Microsoft, and only Microsoft, sucks. I'm saying they all suck.Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 07, 2015, 03:06:10 PMyeah but xbox doesn't get hacked nearly as often or as severly as PSN so.....Gold is paying for securityPS+ makes more money than Live. The PSN hacks are simply more publisised than the Xbox, too.Quote from: gatsby on October 07, 2015, 03:03:45 PMpaying monthly isn't a huge dealYou're missing the point.Paying an extra $5 for content that's finished on release isn't a huge deal either, am I right?Quote from: FatherlyNick on October 07, 2015, 02:54:55 PMLets wait for that UI update to go global + backwards compatibilityDid you people even watch the video? Christ.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 07, 2015, 03:06:10 PMyeah but xbox doesn't get hacked nearly as often or as severly as PSN so.....Gold is paying for securityPS+ makes more money than Live.
The PSN hacks are simply more publisised than the Xbox, too.
This is why I will never, ever hear that XBL was better than PSN.
Nobody watched the video or got the point of the thread
Quote from: Flee on October 07, 2015, 11:35:59 AMGWG is great though. The fact that you don't lose all your games the second you stop paying your subscription is godlike.This
Quote from: Flee on October 07, 2015, 01:23:55 PMAs far as I know, they remain permanently fixed to your account but you can only keep playing them as long as you have an active PS+ membership. The exact same system is in place on the Xbone