"I'll Keep Coming." | Death Stranding, A Kojima Productions Thread

Ah you were right. It is based on Krav Maga, but it has Marine Corps and other various tactics implemented. Mainly the difference is Krav Maga seems to be prolonging fights in a martial arts way, rather than disabling the opponent.

The way my father and others implement it is you want to disable them as fast as possible. That means dislocating muscles, bringing them down to the ground, breaking arms, etc.

My honest guess is there is no real name to it if it's so heavily altered and a combination of tactics.

That sounds about right. Influences in Krav Maga and some other stuff too. And I read that there's a difference between the KM taught to civilians and military people, so that could explain the apparent discrepancies.

That's true. There are certain parts of the body where if you hit hard enough you can easily kill em. My dad showed me a few (I'm not gonna say that here), which is kinda scary.

Mainly the difference is Krav Maga seems to be prolonging fights in a martial arts way, rather than disabling the opponent.

That's the exact opposite of what Krav Maga is supposed to do. It emphasizes taking the other guy down as quickly as possible.

The way my father and others implement it is you want to disable them as fast as possible. That means dislocating muscles, bringing them down to the ground, breaking arms, etc.

Exactly.

Apologies. The videos I scrolled through just seemed like some extra flashy bullshit, but I guess promotional videos can do that.

With Youtube flashy bullshit is pretty much guaranteed, but this guy had plenty of quick moves to getting the opponent down.

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Basically....I'm kind of bothered that they didn't even bother messing around with his looks OR voice, he just comes off as way too much like Otacon.

I can understand the voice, as I sound exactly like my father, but they already committed that sin when they made Naked Snake look identical to Solid Snake. Kind of lazy.

Randolph did an amazing job, though.

Ah you were right. It is based on Krav Maga, but it has Marine Corps and other various tactics implemented. Mainly the difference is Krav Maga seems to be prolonging fights in a martial arts way, rather than disabling the opponent.

The way my father and others implement it is you want to disable them as fast as possible. That means dislocating muscles, bringing them down to the ground, breaking arms, etc.

My honest guess is there is no real name to it if it's so heavily altered and a combination of tactics.

That sounds about right. Influences in Krav Maga and some other stuff too. And I read that there's a difference between the KM taught to civilians and military people, so that could explain the apparent discrepancies.

That's true. There are certain parts of the body where if you hit hard enough you can easily kill em. My dad showed me a few (I'm not gonna say that here), which is kinda scary.

Yeah, I've heard that it can be particularly brutal. Pain in so many ways that I can't even begin to imagine. >.> And basically no such thing as 'going easy on them'. Ouch.

Nice work keeping the thread alive, folks.

Ah you were right. It is based on Krav Maga, but it has Marine Corps and other various tactics implemented. Mainly the difference is Krav Maga seems to be prolonging fights in a martial arts way, rather than disabling the opponent.

The way my father and others implement it is you want to disable them as fast as possible. That means dislocating muscles, bringing them down to the ground, breaking arms, etc.

My honest guess is there is no real name to it if it's so heavily altered and a combination of tactics.

That sounds about right. Influences in Krav Maga and some other stuff too. And I read that there's a difference between the KM taught to civilians and military people, so that could explain the apparent discrepancies.

That's true. There are certain parts of the body where if you hit hard enough you can easily kill em. My dad showed me a few (I'm not gonna say that here), which is kinda scary.

Yeah, I've heard that it can be particularly brutal. Pain in so many ways that I can't even begin to imagine. >.> And basically no such thing as 'going easy on them'. Ouch.

All I'll say is it's amazing how much you can control the human body with just their thumb or hand.

I can understand the voice, as I sound exactly like my father, but they already committed that sin when they made Naked Snake look identical to Solid Snake. Kind of lazy.

It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

I can understand the voice, as I sound exactly like my father, but they already committed that sin when they made Naked Snake look identical to Solid Snake. Kind of lazy.

It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

Physically, yeah, they're clones. The audible thing is just fanservice. We always knew they had different voices in the canon and what not.

It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

Well, they're not genetically identical. And Big Boss did not raise David, so. . .

my quick lazy rendition

I could so make that better if I didn't do it in under 3 mins

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All of these have been posted, lol.

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All of these have been posted, lol.

Even the Skullface ones?

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That made me laugh far more than I expected.

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All of these have been posted, lol.

Even the Skullface ones?

Even the Skullface ones.

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All of these have been posted, lol.

Even the Skullface ones?

Even the Skullface ones.

They're worth posting again, though

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All of these have been posted, lol.

Even the Skullface ones?

Even the Skullface ones.

They're worth posting again, though

This one is good. Not Skullface though.

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This one is good. Not Skullface though.

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Awesome. Though the title gave it away.

It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

Well, they're not genetically identical. And Big Boss did not raise David, so. . .

The genetic differences are so minute that they could fool any test. For the most part all of the Snakes are genetically identical.

It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

Well, they're not genetically identical. And Big Boss did not raise David, so. . .

Within 5% difference genetically iirc. It was in a MGS4 cutscene where they explained why David's biometric data couldn't be used to access the Patriots.

It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

Well, they're not genetically identical. And Big Boss did not raise David, so. . .

Within 5% difference genetically iirc.

Wait, what? When in GotP was this stated? There's less than 5% difference between a human being and a chimpanzee. Most humans who are completely unrelated to each other have a 99.5% genetic similarity or more.

Is this more Kojinetics at work?

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It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

Well, they're not genetically identical. And Big Boss did not raise David, so. . .

Within 5% difference genetically iirc.

Wait, what? When in GotP was this stated? There's less than 5% difference between a human being and a chimpanzee. Most humans who are completely unrelated to each other have a 99.5% genetic similarity or more.

Is this more Kojinetics at work?

Very beginning of Act 3, think. Naomi explains why Liquid Ocelot was looking for Big Boss's corpse, and it was the biometric key thing. The camera pans to the computer screen, where one clone had a ~3.5% difference and the other had a ~4.5% difference.

Just rewatched the cutscene. One is a "5.30% No Match" and the other is a "4.87% No Match".

It makes sense that Big Boss' genetically identical son, whom he raised himself, would end up being exactly like him physically and audibly.

Well, they're not genetically identical. And Big Boss did not raise David, so. . .

Within 5% difference genetically iirc.

Wait, what? When in GotP was this stated? There's less than 5% difference between a human being and a chimpanzee. Most humans who are completely unrelated to each other have a 99.5% genetic similarity or more.

Is this more Kojinetics at work?

Very beginning of Act 3, think. Naomi explains why Liquid Ocelot was looking for Big Boss's corpse, and it was the biometric key thing. The camera pans to the computer screen, where one clone had a ~3.5% difference and the other had a ~4.5% difference.

If the twins had a whole 1% genetic difference they would never have been able to pass off Liquid's corpse as Solid's, even if they're physically identical. That wouldn't fool any serious test.

And if they were 3.5 to 4.5% genetically different from their father they wouldn't even be human.

So, I think we can safely file this under confirmed Kojinetics.

It doesn't technically say it's a 4.87-5.30% genetic difference. They're just talking about Big Boss' genetics and biometric material, say that neither David nor Eli are a 100% match, then the screen shows "5.30/4.87% NO MATCH".

But it's probably just Kojinetics.

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