"I'll Keep Coming." | Death Stranding, A Kojima Productions Thread

http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/5/?

That's not the mod I was talking about. Look up MSF Fatigues or something.

I don't have a PC yet. Probably getting one this month, though. Once I do I'm getting TPP and playing as GZ Big Boss.

I'll just download this now actually. Getting tired of looking at Venom Snakes giant ass horn and ugly eye patch.

Edit: http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/17/?

that's the one you're thinking of me thinks

He's good in MGS3 if you ask me.

Nah. Go back and replay it, his delivery is so bad.

It starts off rocky, but he starts to hit his stride after the the second Ocelot confrontation.

I'll just download this now actually. Getting tired of looking at Venom Snakes giant ass horn and ugly eye patch.

Can you let me know if his facial animations are consistent with Venom Snake?

Edit: http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/17/?

that's the one you're thinking of me thinks

Yeah, that's the one. Looks fantastic.

Outer Heaven would be apt.

If/when Private Groups become a thing, we'll hold a vote, I suppose. I have no problems being called "Outer Heaven", though.

"Outer Heaven" or "Philanthropy" would be the best names tbh.

It starts off rocky, but he starts to hit his stride after the the second Ocelot confrontation.

Ehh... still one of his poorer performances, IMO.

i like outer heaven

"Outer Heaven" or "Philanthropy" would be the best names tbh.

I'm digging "Philanthropy."

Eh, or maybe not.

I'll just download this now actually. Getting tired of looking at Venom Snakes giant ass horn and ugly eye patch.

Can you let me know if his facial animations are consistent with Venom Snake?

Edit: http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/17/?

that's the one you're thinking of me thinks

Yeah, that's the one. Looks fantastic.

It's too much effort for me to do honestly, and I'm afraid I'll mess something up. Besides yeah, I'm afraid something will mess up via cutscenes or something, and I want that full experience. Once I beat it I'll think about doing it.

It's too much effort for me to do honestly, and I'm afraid I'll mess something up. Besides yeah, I'm afraid something will mess up via cutscenes or something, and I want that full experience. Once I beat it I'll think about doing it.

Gotcha. No worries.

My review playthrough will be on PC after I finish reading Lord of the Flies, Moby Dick and 1984 (to refresh my memory of it's concepts and understand some of the imagery in the game a bit better), so I'll probably use these mods on that playthrough.

Actually, screw it. I'll do it. Sorry, I'm indecisive...

The more I think about it, the more I think that the Eli boss battle is the best.

I just did it 3 times in a row (because I'm trying to get rid of this stupid permanent blood but lowering my demon score... damn nuke), and each time I had a different fight.

The first time, I approached him like normal.

The second time, I approached his white chair, but he was nowhere to be seen. He sneaks behind me and attacks from the rear.

The third time, he knocks me down from above, shouting "Not yet, Snake! It's not over yet!"

His look is off, though. He should look like he's 16 or 17, not 11 or 12.

His look is off, though. He should look like he's 16 or 17, not 11 or 12.

But he is like 12.

His look is off, though. He should look like he's 16 or 17, not 11 or 12.

But he is like 12.

Accelerated aging, nigga.

His look is off, though. He should look like he's 16 or 17, not 11 or 12.

But he is like 12.

Accelerated aging, nigga.

Did they ever say when it kicked in?

Did they ever say when it kicked in?

They never specified, no. I assume it was gradual. I mean, how else could you control that?

It's not like genes can tell how old a person is (as far as I know).

It would be impossible to engineer the genes to say "once you hit 40, you're going to slowly die", y'know?

Plus Solid Snake looked older than 35 in MGS2.

It would be impossible to engineer the genes to say "once you hit 40, you're going to slowly die", y'know?

Plus Solid Snake looked older than 35 in MGS2.

I find that doubtful. This isn't the most realistic universe, anyway.

I find that doubtful. This isn't the most realistic universe, anyway.

Yeah, you're right. I would've liked a more dynamic Eli, though, and I was maybe hoping that an "older" version of him (in his late teens) could help in that regard.

I find that doubtful. This isn't the most realistic universe, anyway.

Yeah, you're right. I would've liked a more dynamic Eli, though, and I was maybe hoping that an "older" version of him (in his late teens) could help in that regard.

Would've been nicer too if Eli hadn't been pissed off at Big Boss before he even met the guy. If he had developed his hatred of Big Boss entirely from getting his ass kicked routinely, and figured out after a while that BB was his dad, then I could've appreciated the Eli wanting to prove himself a bit more. Really just seems odd how he inherently knows so much.

I wish Ground Zeroes' Big Boss head option was present. His hair looks so much better.

yes

I need this mod in my life.

Not Spoilers

yes

This is the mod you are looking for.

I took a look at the image file name and figured out the URL to find the mod >.> Here's how I did it:

1) Right-click --> view image
2) Take a look at the URL: http://static-4.nexusmods.com/15/mods/1091/images/17-0-1442932930.jpg
3) Look at the filename: 17-0-1442932930.jpg. The first number is the mod's 'number', in this case 17
4) Here's the standard Nexus mod page URL: http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/xx/?, where xx is the mod number
5) Substitute xx with the mod number as such: http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/17/?

And there you go!

>.> I only know it because I've had to do it before for Skyrim mods.

New "Motherbase Mix":

Spoiler

• Blue Monday - New Order
• Solid - Ashford & Simpson
• Smalltown Boy - Bronski Beat
• Only Time Will Tell - Asia
• Dancing in the Dark - Bruce Springsteen
• Union of the Snake - Duran Duran
• Maneater - Daryl Hall & John Oates
• Diamond Dogs - David Bowie
• The Man Who Sold The World - Midge Ure
• Africa - Toto
• Nuclear - Mike Oldfield
• Tarzan Boy - Baltimora
• Dancing With Tears In My Eyes - Ultravox
• How Soon Is Now - The Smiths
• Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division
• Wake Me Up - Wham!
• Too Shy - Kajagoogoo
• I Just Died In Your Arms Tonight - Cutting Crew

Only 18 songs on any given CD.

I tried to make esoteric references with my song choices.

I finally got around to making my MGSV mixtape.

OPERATION MIXTAPE

1: "The Man Who Sold The World" Midge Ure
2: "She Blinded Me With Science" Thomas Dolby
3: "I Ran (So Far Away)" A Flock of Seagulls
4: "Take On Me" a-ha
5: "Dancing With Tears In My Eyes" Ultravox
6: "Let's Dance" David Bowie
7: "Do You Know, Do You Care?" Phil Collins
8: "Africa" Toto
9: "Shout" Tears For Fears
10: "Call Me" Blondie
11: "Rebel Yell" Billy Idol
12: "Rock The Casbah" The Clash
13: "Walk Like An Egyptian"
14: "Love Will Tear Us Apart" Joy Division
15: "Maneater" Hall & Oats
16: "I Want To Break Free" Queen
17: "Every Breath You Take" The Police
18: "Rise Above" Black Flag

both of these are yes

Did they ever say when it kicked in?

They never specified, no. I assume it was gradual. I mean, how else could you control that?

It's not like genes can tell how old a person is (as far as I know).

Solid's kicked in when he was roughly 30, so I assume Liquid wouldn't have started aging prematurely until around that age as well.

I find that doubtful. This isn't the most realistic universe, anyway.

Yeah, you're right. I would've liked a more dynamic Eli, though, and I was maybe hoping that an "older" version of him (in his late teens) could help in that regard.

Would've been nicer too if Eli hadn't been pissed off at Big Boss before he even met the guy. If he had developed his hatred of Big Boss entirely from getting his ass kicked routinely, and figured out after a while that BB was his dad, then I could've appreciated the Eli wanting to prove himself a bit more. Really just seems odd how he inherently knows so much.

He was raised by the Patriots in Britain, so I guess they told him about Big Boss and his twin (but altered the story to their advantage, naturally).

I find that doubtful. This isn't the most realistic universe, anyway.

Yeah, you're right. I would've liked a more dynamic Eli, though, and I was maybe hoping that an "older" version of him (in his late teens) could help in that regard.

Would've been nicer too if Eli hadn't been pissed off at Big Boss before he even met the guy. If he had developed his hatred of Big Boss entirely from getting his ass kicked routinely, and figured out after a while that BB was his dad, then I could've appreciated the Eli wanting to prove himself a bit more. Really just seems odd how he inherently knows so much.

He was raised by the Patriots in Britain, so I guess they told him about Big Boss and his twin (but altered the story to their advantage, naturally).

But why? Nobody told Solid Snake shit his whole life, why would they bother telling Liquid before he was 12?

Would've been nicer too if Eli hadn't been pissed off at Big Boss before he even met the guy.

They explained it like this: the LET Project is abandoned in 1976(? .... IIRC), with Eli being pretty much disregarded. At that point, he finds out about the whole thing, how he was given the recessive genes (which I assume his child mind associates with "inferior", for whatever reason), and he believes that Big Boss chose him to be the inferior clone. Thus, cursing his fate, as his character description reads.

He then gets transferred to Africa, where he escapes and tries to establish his Kingdom of the Flies. He fails, obviously. Thwarted by Venom Snake (who he believes is his dad). At this point, he's probably been through some TOUGH shit, giving him a somewhat justified viewpoint on life (hint: it sucks). When he's bested by Snake, he's brought back to Motherbase (or, "Outer Heaven", as Snake calls it as they arrive.) With a pat on the back, Eli becomes infuriated at the realisation that Venom Snake doesn't hate him (he really wants Snake to despise him. Kinda like how if you dislike someone and intentionally do something bad to them, you want them to know it was you.) and attempts to steal his knife and stab him.

I mean... it doesn't really do it for me, but that's the canon reason.

If he had developed his hatred of Big Boss entirely from getting his ass kicked routinely, and figured out after a while that BB was his dad, then I could've appreciated the Eli wanting to prove himself a bit more. Really just seems odd how he inherently knows so much.

I was hoping that, at that point in the story, Venom would already have begun his descent into evil (taking place shortly after the killing of the child soldiers). Eli is capable, but no match for Snake, so he's worried. He idolises Big Boss, so it's no surprise.

Snake arrives, knowing full well that Eli is his son (somehow), and spares him.

Eli worships BB and is always looking to impress him (hence, the games at MB you need to play with him), but after repeatedly "disappointing" Snake, Ahab starts yelling at Eli "You're no son of mine. Your superior brother wouldn't fail me like this." sort of shit, creating the burning desire for Eli to impress his father. This is also where the line "Love? It's hate! He always told me you were superior to me!" in MGS1 comes from (paraphrased).

Eventually, Eli finds out you killed his men, which is where he begins to resent and eventually hate his father (this is also where his distrust of his fellow soldier begins. He realises that he feels like shit because he was so attached to his men, so when he finds out how they died, he figures it's better to not get attached at all, hence his asshole-ey attitude to his FOX-HOUND team in MGS1. It's a coping mechanism, and adds depth to his character.)

The rest of Eli's story remains the same, especially the final scene of Mission 51. Big Boss goes to shoot Eli, but leaves the gun instead. Eli takes this as an insult "you don't even care enough to finish me off", finally pushing him to the brink. He escapes with Mantis.


This is all made up but that's what I thought was going to happen.

If I felt like I should edit that last paragraph to be somewhat comprehensible. Maybe go and make a "What MGSV could've been" screenplay type of deal, too.

I had pretty much the whole story panned out in my mind before the game came out.

1) Right-click --> view image
2) Take a look at the URL: http://static-4.nexusmods.com/15/mods/1091/images/17-0-1442932930.jpg
3) Look at the filename: 17-0-1442932930.jpg. The first number is the mod's 'number', in this case 17
4) Here's the standard Nexus mod page URL: http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/xx/?, where xx is the mod number
5) Substitute xx with the mod number as such: http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/17/?

And there you go!

And that's how you apply mods? When I get the PC version I'll be coming to you for help, lol.

both of these are yes

You know it.

I find that doubtful. This isn't the most realistic universe, anyway.

Yeah, you're right. I would've liked a more dynamic Eli, though, and I was maybe hoping that an "older" version of him (in his late teens) could help in that regard.

Would've been nicer too if Eli hadn't been pissed off at Big Boss before he even met the guy. If he had developed his hatred of Big Boss entirely from getting his ass kicked routinely, and figured out after a while that BB was his dad, then I could've appreciated the Eli wanting to prove himself a bit more. Really just seems odd how he inherently knows so much.

He was raised by the Patriots in Britain, so I guess they told him about Big Boss and his twin (but altered the story to their advantage, naturally).

But why? Nobody told Solid Snake shit his whole life, why would they bother telling Liquid before he was 12?

Because Kojima hadn't dreamed up Liquid Snake or Les Enfantes Terrible until Metal Gear Solid, and by that point in the series' timeline Snake was an adult.

Quarantining the soldiers had to be the most tedious and annoying thing I've ever done in a game in a long time.

I know who has it (won't spoil), but just going THROUGH ALL THOSE SOLDIERS was so freaking time consuming.