"I'll Keep Coming." | Death Stranding, A Kojima Productions Thread

And see, that still doesn't do it justice. I "deeply admire" the craftmanship of Neil Peart, that doesn't mean I'm going to do half of what Ocelot did for Big Boss.

It isn't romantic affection.
It isn't admiration.
It isn't idolatry.

It's deeper than love; he would consider Big Boss to be and extension of his being. That doesn't necessitate fucking sexual attraction, it just means that Jack resonates with him to an immensely powerful extent.

well, trust me

"love" does it even less justice

because all that's gonna make people think about is sexual attraction

Which one is the one who said his whole life's meaning was looking forward to this game?

Wasn't there a Venom Snake?

> Listening to soliders who don't know the whole story

> Disregard literally everything they've shown and said in the actual games with him in it

good job, detective

I guess if you admire someone, you wanna fuck em. Makes sense.

>not realising that the soldiers are simply a microphone for kojima to communicate canon

>nothing in the previous games contradicts their romantic relationship

This is some next levels of retardation

Which one is the one who said his whole life's meaning was looking forward to this game?

Wasn't there a Venom Snake?

That was me

And thats not entirely accurate

I said that tpp was the only good thing in my life in the last 5 years or so

I think your views of love are very basic, mang.

But like, f you wanna dish out petty insults, then I won't bother.

Which one is the one who said his whole life's meaning was looking forward to this game?

Wasn't there a Venom Snake?

That was me

And thats not entirely accurate

I said that tpp was the only good thing in my life in the last 5 years or so

I hope your depression doesn't end your life.

Ocelot flat-out states that he's 'in love with the legend', just like Quiet, who was Venom Snake's poorly-written and incredibly forced love interest in TPP. That is, he views his relationship with Big Boss the same way Quiet views hers - and she wanted to see Snake's snake the whole game.

Which one is the one who said his whole life's meaning was looking forward to this game?

Wasn't there a Venom Snake?

That was Salad Snake....or something like that.

Ocelot flat-out states that he's 'in love with the legend', just like Quiet, who was Venom Snake's poorly-written and incredibly forced love interest in TPP. That is, he views his relationship with Big Boss the same way Quiet views hers - and she wanted to see Snake's snake the whole game.

...No...

And see, that still doesn't do it justice. I "deeply admire" the craftmanship of Neil Peart, that doesn't mean I'm going to do half of what Ocelot did for Big Boss.

It isn't romantic affection.
It isn't admiration.
It isn't idolatry.

It's deeper than love; he would consider Big Boss to be and extension of his being. That doesn't necessitate fucking sexual attraction, it just means that Jack resonates with him to an immensely powerful extent.

well, trust me

"love" does it even less justice

Yes, but the fact that it's often taken out of context leads to a lot of funny shit.

Besides, there is quite a lot of homoeroticism in MGS games. A Peace Walker mission literally involves going to the beach with Kaz, hanging out in speedos, and making him blush and show a heart emote over and over.

Even in TPP, the prologue shows off Ishmael's asscrack multiple times, panning toward it in the same ways that it does Quiet's ass or breasts.

I think your views of love are very basic, mang.

The impression is mutual.

But like, f you wanna dish out petty insults, then I won't bother.

Yeah because you havent thrown insults around right

You think that's bad, watch Kill la Kill.

So much dude ass and mc girl being shown a dudes crotch.

Ocelot flat-out states that he's 'in love with the legend', just like Quiet, who was Venom Snake's poorly-written and incredibly forced love interest in TPP. That is, he views his relationship with Big Boss the same way Quiet views hers - and she wanted to see Snake's snake the whole game.

Thank you

I think your views of love are very basic, mang.

The impression is mutual.

But like, f you wanna dish out petty insults, then I won't bother.

Yeah because you havent thrown insults around right

I didn't call you a retard or whatever, but I could easily just make fun of how MGS V being the only thing you looked forward to in 5 years being very very very sad.


But this is getting us nowhere. Let's just agree to disagree. This whole argument over a VIDEO GAME relationship is really cringy and retarded. No hard feels.

Which one is the one who said his whole life's meaning was looking forward to this game?

Wasn't there a Venom Snake?

That was me

And thats not entirely accurate

I said that tpp was the only good thing in my life in the last 5 years or so

I hope your depression doesn't end your life.

It will but not for awhile

Also that "In love with the legend" thing. Ocelot said "he used to be".

Looks like Snake broke his heart, the lady (man) killer.

Besides, there is quite a lot of homoeroticism in MGS games. A Peace Walker mission literally involves going to the beach with Kaz, hanging out in speedos, and making him blush and show a heart emote over and over.

Even in TPP, the prologue shows off Ishmael's asscrack multiple times, panning toward it in the same ways that it does Quiet's ass or breasts.

i don't deny that

i just really really hate it when people try to find homoeroticism in places where there just isn't any

You think that's bad, watch Kill la Kill.

So much dude ass and mc girl being shown a dudes crotch.

Yeah, I know. The low budget animation had its charm, and it was worth watching once, but I wouldn't watch it again like I have some shows. Ecchi is a huge turn-off for reviewings.

You think that's bad, watch Kill la Kill.

So much dude ass and mc girl being shown a dudes crotch.

Yeah, I know. The low budget animation had its charm, and it was worth watching once, but I wouldn't watch it again like I have some shows. Ecchi is a huge turn-off for reviewings.

Yeah but I still enjoyed it since it's the boys who did Gurren Lagann.

If you haven't seen that, do it very soon or I will keel you. It's much better.

Ocelot flat-out states that he's 'in love with the legend',

[citation needed]

Context needed, too.

So a real quick question. What is the difference between Venom and Punished Snake?

The extra nickname for Punished just seems... very unnecessary. Unless it's like Big Boss and his thousand nicknames like Naked Snake, John, Jack, Saladin, etc.

I didn't call you a retard or whatever, but I could easily just make fun of how MGS V being the only thing you looked forward to in 5 years being very very very sad.

I've already admitted to that, so it wouldn't really be insulted. I understand my reality.

And I didn't call you retarded, I said you were acting retarded.

But this is getting us nowhere. Let's just agree to disagree. This whole argument over a VIDEO GAME relationship is really cringy and retarded. No hard feels.

Its not that cringey tbh

The only person who visibly agrees with you on that is verbatim

Someone who's never beaten a game with ocelot in it

So...

Also that "In love with the legend" thing. Ocelot said "he used to be".

Looks like Snake broke his heart, the lady (man) killer.

Spoiler

But he hypnotized himself to forget who the real Big Boss is. It's possible that Venom just doesn't "do it" for him like Jack does, which further lends credence to the fact that it's because of who Big Boss is, not just what he looks, sounds, or acts like.

You think that's bad, watch Kill la Kill.

So much dude ass and mc girl being shown a dudes crotch.

Yeah, I know. The low budget animation had its charm, and it was worth watching once, but I wouldn't watch it again like I have some shows. Ecchi is a huge turn-off for reviewings.

Yeah but I still enjoyed it since it's the boys who did Gurren Lagann.

If you haven't seen that, do it very soon or I will keel you. It's much better.

>aria
>haven't seen that

Luci, you are talking to one of the weebiest closet weebs on the site.

Also that "In love with the legend" thing. Ocelot said "he used to be".

Looks like Snake broke his heart, the lady (man) killer.

Spoiler

But he hypnotized himself to forget who the real Big Boss is. It's possible that Venom just doesn't "do it" for him like Jack does, which further lends credence to the fact that it's because of who Big Boss is, not just what he looks, sounds, or acts like.

Spoiler

Ugh, I'd have just preferred it to be an act like it always is.

Well.. better than nanomachines I guess...

So a real quick question. What is the difference between Venom and Punished Snake?

The extra nickname for Punished just seems... very unnecessary. Unless it's like Big Boss and his thousand nicknames like Naked Snake, John, Jack, Saladin, etc.

His name is Punished "Venom" Snake. Both nicknames are used.

Oh that's Aria?

I DONT KNOW ALL THESE FUCKING NICKNAMES, OKAY?!?!?!

So a real quick question. What is the difference between Venom and Punished Snake?

The extra nickname for Punished just seems... very unnecessary. Unless it's like Big Boss and his thousand nicknames like Naked Snake, John, Jack, Saladin, etc.

I've been wondering that too. Kojima apparently couldn't decide which he liked better so he went with both.

I didn't call you a retard or whatever, but I could easily just make fun of how MGS V being the only thing you looked forward to in 5 years being very very very sad.

Spoiler

I've already admitted to that, so it wouldn't really be insulted. I understand my reality.

And I didn't call you retarded, I said you were acting retarded.

But this is getting us nowhere. Let's just agree to disagree. This whole argument over a VIDEO GAME relationship is really cringy and retarded. No hard feels.

Its not that cringey tbh

The only person who visibly agrees with you on that is verbatim

Someone who's never beaten a game with ocelot in it

So...

*sigh*

Alright well I'm done arguing it.

So a real quick question. What is the difference between Venom and Punished Snake?

The extra nickname for Punished just seems... very unnecessary. Unless it's like Big Boss and his thousand nicknames like Naked Snake, John, Jack, Saladin, etc.

Venom Snake is his alias, Punished refers to everything he's had being destroyed

Spoiler

In terms of the Big Boss legacy, twice: before the events of TPP and at end of the game.

But yeah, having a nickname for an alias is retarded. John's names all make sense, though: Jack is a nickname for John, Naked Snake was his codename before he was Vic Boss (fake boss), Big Boss (duh), Saladin is a term of endearment that was only used by Sniper Wolf.