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Verbatim · December 04, 2016, 04:29:54 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:20:33 PM

As a side note I don't think a game being released at launch is a valid excuse. Off the top of my head I can think of three games that released at launch (maybe 4, but I didn't pay attention to the 360 launch so I don't know if gears was actually a launch title or not) that were still good games.

Halo:CE, SSBM, and Super Mario Sunshine.

I think you meant "well-received," because two of those are highly debatable.

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 04:50:58 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 04:24:02 PM

I just think "panned" was a bit of an exaggeration.

That's because it was.

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 04:59:31 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2016, 04:29:54 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
As a side note I don't think a game being released at launch is a valid excuse. Off the top of my head I can think of three games that released at launch (maybe 4, but I didn't pay attention to the 360 launch so I don't know if gears was actually a launch title or not) that were still good games.

Halo:CE, SSBM, and Super Mario Sunshine.
I think you meant "well-received," because two of those are highly debatable.

I don't really think any of them are highly debatable. At the time they were released they were all good games. It's true that not all of them have aged gracefully though.

Deleted · December 04, 2016, 05:00:32 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2016, 04:29:54 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
As a side note I don't think a game being released at launch is a valid excuse. Off the top of my head I can think of three games that released at launch (maybe 4, but I didn't pay attention to the 360 launch so I don't know if gears was actually a launch title or not) that were still good games.

Halo:CE, SSBM, and Super Mario Sunshine.
I think you meant "well-received," because two of those are highly debatable.

quit being such an edgelord

Verbatim · December 04, 2016, 05:07:42 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:59:31 PM

I don't really think any of them are highly debatable. At the time they were released they were all good games. It's true that not all of them have aged gracefully though.

Plenty of people can't stand 3D Mario platformers--Sunshine in particular is probably one of the least-liked Mario games in the core franchise. And Halo 1 flat-out sucked. Its multiplayer and its multiplayer alone carried it to its success.

They were popular, sure, and lots of people liked them--but you already know that this does not make a game good.

Deleted · December 04, 2016, 05:19:11 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2016, 05:07:42 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:59:31 PM
I don't really think any of them are highly debatable. At the time they were released they were all good games. It's true that not all of them have aged gracefully though.
Plenty of people can't stand 3D Mario platformers--Sunshine in particular is probably one of the least-liked Mario games in the core franchise. And Halo 1 flat-out sucked. Its multiplayer and its multiplayer alone carried it to its success.

They were popular, sure, and lots of people liked them--but you already know that this does not make a game good.

Combat Evolved like the original Metroid Were great games for their time but havent aged well as game mechanics and design improved.
Edgelords who dont like 3D Mario games just because they are 3D are like all other "Clasic Purist" pests and deserve to have their limbs broken.

Verbatim · December 04, 2016, 05:20:47 PM

I'm biased for Metroid, but I'd still say Metroid 1 has aged pretty well for an 8-bit game.

NES games in general are timeless. The good ones, anyway.

Deleted · December 04, 2016, 05:29:13 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2016, 05:20:47 PM

I'm biased for Metroid, but I'd still say Metroid 1 has aged pretty well for an 8-bit game.

NES games in general are timeless. The good ones, anyway.

The Kraid Elevator alone is four trillion times worse than any water level in any game you can name.

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 06:33:43 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2016, 05:07:42 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:59:31 PM
I don't really think any of them are highly debatable. At the time they were released they were all good games. It's true that not all of them have aged gracefully though.
Plenty of people can't stand 3D Mario platformers--Sunshine in particular is probably one of the least-liked Mario games in the core franchise. And Halo 1 flat-out sucked. Its multiplayer and its multiplayer alone carried it to its success.

They were popular, sure, and lots of people liked them--but you already know that this does not make a game good.

Just because it's the least liked of the 3D Mario games doesn't mean it's bad. The campaign of CE up until two betrayals was also pretty good at the time. Remember CE set the standard for years and most first person shooters that came after it borrow it's mechanics. Think of CE like a model T, great for its time, but doesn't hold a candle to its modern day iterations. If someone were to release a CE clone called Paylo: Wombat Involved it wouldn't be held in the same regard as CE because our standards have risen since then.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · December 05, 2016, 09:10:43 AM

Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM

Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.

If Destiny is getting a sequel - anything is possible.

Thrasher · December 07, 2016, 03:13:49 PM

I thought only good games deserve sequels.

Verbatim · December 07, 2016, 03:16:00 PM

Quote from: Thrasher on December 07, 2016, 03:13:49 PM

I thought only good games deserve sequels.

If the market functioned based on what media "deserves" to exist, we'd be looking at a very different world right now.

Elai · December 07, 2016, 08:41:05 PM

santa came early this year gents

December 07, 2016, 09:09:11 PM

Just watch, Knack will turn out to actually be a great game.

Doctor Doom · December 07, 2016, 09:27:12 PM

Paylo: Wombat Involved sounds infinitely better than Halo.

Zonda · January 25, 2017, 07:22:21 PM

wake up lemon

we need you

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · January 25, 2017, 07:57:20 PM

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