Quote from: Zonda on August 28, 2015, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.
Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?
Humans were never said to be Forerunners
Quote from: Korra Valentine on August 28, 2015, 12:51:19 AMQuote from: Zonda on August 28, 2015, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.
Yeah, then it was changed in Halo 2 and 3You must really hate all post-CE media.343 has the Halo story bible Bungie used and they're following plot points from that.
Quote from: BaconShelf on August 28, 2015, 05:23:35 AMYeah, then it was changed in Halo 2 and 3You must really hate all post-CE media.343 has the Halo story bible Bungie used and they're following plot points from that.yo fam I think septy's point is that they were going for the humans are forerunners vibe, and then flaked on that for a different plot line.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 12:55:15 AMQuote from: Korra Valentine on August 28, 2015, 12:51:19 AMQuote from: Zonda on August 28, 2015, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.yeah, the original intention, something they didn't follow through on.343 didn't change anything, they continued what bungie wrote.
@HaloArchive I mean, the Precursors never existed before Halo4, at least at Bungie. Much of the fiction in Halo4 is pretty new. Good stuff!
Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 10:56:29 AMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 12:55:15 AMQuote from: Korra Valentine on August 28, 2015, 12:51:19 AMQuote from: Zonda on August 28, 2015, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.yeah, the original intention, something they didn't follow through on.343 didn't change anything, they continued what bungie wrote.Quote@HaloArchive I mean, the Precursors never existed before Halo4, at least at Bungie. Much of the fiction in Halo4 is pretty new. Good stuff!That's from Paul Russel, he was part of the Halo team at Bungie from 1998-2010.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 11:00:59 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 10:56:29 AMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 12:55:15 AMQuote from: Korra Valentine on August 28, 2015, 12:51:19 AMQuote from: Zonda on August 28, 2015, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.yeah, the original intention, something they didn't follow through on.343 didn't change anything, they continued what bungie wrote.Quote@HaloArchive I mean, the Precursors never existed before Halo4, at least at Bungie. Much of the fiction in Halo4 is pretty new. Good stuff!That's from Paul Russel, he was part of the Halo team at Bungie from 1998-2010.primordial is mentioned in halo 3's terminals.anyway, we aren't talking about the precursors here. we're talking about how humans were never forerunners.
@HaloArchive Not much to say that isn't known. Forerunners originally were humans, seeding their dna on earth to re-evolve, away from flood.
What part of it being a scrapped concept that Bungie never went through with confuses you?None of that list means they were ever Forerunners, and each one has already been answered.It's like talking to a brick wall.
Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 11:11:48 AMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 11:00:59 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 10:56:29 AMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 12:55:15 AMQuote from: Korra Valentine on August 28, 2015, 12:51:19 AMQuote from: Zonda on August 28, 2015, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.yeah, the original intention, something they didn't follow through on.343 didn't change anything, they continued what bungie wrote.Quote@HaloArchive I mean, the Precursors never existed before Halo4, at least at Bungie. Much of the fiction in Halo4 is pretty new. Good stuff!That's from Paul Russel, he was part of the Halo team at Bungie from 1998-2010.primordial is mentioned in halo 3's terminals.anyway, we aren't talking about the precursors here. we're talking about how humans were never forerunners.Quote@HaloArchive Not much to say that isn't known. Forerunners originally were humans, seeding their dna on earth to re-evolve, away from flood.Yes they were at one time. -The Halo Rings are perfect for human life, so this hints at what the average Forerunner environment was like -343GS is confused when Chief didn't know anything about the Halo-343GS refers to "our lost time" as in the time after the Halos were fired and the Forerunners disappeared -Only humans can access Forerunner technology -343Gs even offers Chief forerunner combat skin, if they were different species then why would 343 offer it to him if they aren't anatomically the same? -343GS asks Chief "Last time to you asked me, would I do it?". 343GS already established that they're the same species so he's talking about them as a whole Also about the flood. They were originally a Forerunner bio weapon that got loose and turned against the Forerunners. The only way to stop it was to build the Halo rings.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 11:22:39 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 11:11:48 AMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 11:00:59 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 10:56:29 AMQuote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 12:55:15 AMQuote from: Korra Valentine on August 28, 2015, 12:51:19 AMQuote from: Zonda on August 28, 2015, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 28, 2015, 12:39:43 AMHumans were never said to be ForerunnersWas 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.yeah, the original intention, something they didn't follow through on.343 didn't change anything, they continued what bungie wrote.Quote@HaloArchive I mean, the Precursors never existed before Halo4, at least at Bungie. Much of the fiction in Halo4 is pretty new. Good stuff!That's from Paul Russel, he was part of the Halo team at Bungie from 1998-2010.primordial is mentioned in halo 3's terminals.anyway, we aren't talking about the precursors here. we're talking about how humans were never forerunners.Quote@HaloArchive Not much to say that isn't known. Forerunners originally were humans, seeding their dna on earth to re-evolve, away from flood.Yes they were at one time. -The Halo Rings are perfect for human life, so this hints at what the average Forerunner environment was like -343GS is confused when Chief didn't know anything about the Halo-343GS refers to "our lost time" as in the time after the Halos were fired and the Forerunners disappeared -Only humans can access Forerunner technology -343Gs even offers Chief forerunner combat skin, if they were different species then why would 343 offer it to him if they aren't anatomically the same? -343GS asks Chief "Last time to you asked me, would I do it?". 343GS already established that they're the same species so he's talking about them as a whole Also about the flood. They were originally a Forerunner bio weapon that got loose and turned against the Forerunners. The only way to stop it was to build the Halo rings.Like Lemon said, that was the original intention but 343i took a different aproach than that. Read the Forerunner books. SpoilerThe precursors evolved both Humanity and Forerunners to hold the Mantle of resposibility (some say from the same species (but that's only speculation at this point) but in the end the Precursors decided they prefered humanity which the Forerunners didnt like and so they drove the Precursors out of the galaxy to near extinction, and became the dominant species in the galaxy. Some of the precursors tried to preserve themselves by becoming a powder but the powder degenerated over time, and when Humans and the Prophets found it it ended up becoming the Flood by infecting people. Humans , while fighting the flood expanded into forerunner territory and began glassing planets which lead to war, at the end of which, humanity was devolved by the foreruners and sent back to earth, untill the Librarian sent the rest to the Ark to survive the Halo activation (Most had been composed by the Didact late in the war to fight the flood.As for Guilty Spark (He was an ancient Human who helped the Iso Didact) The Iso Didact said that quote to him, and because of it some people suspect John (and possibly other Humans) have the Iso Didact's Geas (Some Assassin's Creed genetic memory mumbo-jumbo, Humans are already known to carry the librarian's Geass) and that is why he identified him as such.
That's what I'm saying but people seem to have a reading comprehension.
Humans were originally forerunners as outlined in Halos 1-3. Then the extra fiction was added that negated all of that and made them two separate species. What I'm saying is that I preferred when humans were Forerunners.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 11:53:08 AMThat's what I'm saying but people seem to have a reading comprehension. Irony.I can read, but you're just wrong. Idiot.QuoteHumans were originally forerunners as outlined in Halos 1-3. Then the extra fiction was added that negated all of that and made them two separate species. What I'm saying is that I preferred when humans were Forerunners.Humans were never Forerunners after CE. Bungie are the ones who tossed the concept out the window, not 343, you dumb shit.Yeah, you don't like 343. Whatever. But the least you can do is actually be right an not pull literal shit out of your arse because you're on the 343 hatred bandwagon.
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