Quote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:43:31 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:24:23 PMQuote from: Nuka on December 21, 2014, 12:19:36 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:15:36 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:09:59 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.Ah I see.They took orphans who had their families killed by the Covenant, if I remember correctly.It's just that I remember the H:Reach cinematic where teen Carter volunteers to be augmented, so that's where I got the impression from.It was a promotional ad for the game though, so it could be non canon.He wasn't a volunteer.He looks like a consenting adult, not an orphan/kid.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:24:23 PMQuote from: Nuka on December 21, 2014, 12:19:36 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:15:36 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:09:59 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.Ah I see.They took orphans who had their families killed by the Covenant, if I remember correctly.It's just that I remember the H:Reach cinematic where teen Carter volunteers to be augmented, so that's where I got the impression from.It was a promotional ad for the game though, so it could be non canon.He wasn't a volunteer.
Quote from: Nuka on December 21, 2014, 12:19:36 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:15:36 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:09:59 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.Ah I see.They took orphans who had their families killed by the Covenant, if I remember correctly.It's just that I remember the H:Reach cinematic where teen Carter volunteers to be augmented, so that's where I got the impression from.It was a promotional ad for the game though, so it could be non canon.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:15:36 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:09:59 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.Ah I see.They took orphans who had their families killed by the Covenant, if I remember correctly.
Quote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:09:59 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.Ah I see.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.
I thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:44:55 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:43:31 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:24:23 PMQuote from: Nuka on December 21, 2014, 12:19:36 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:15:36 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:09:59 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.Ah I see.They took orphans who had their families killed by the Covenant, if I remember correctly.It's just that I remember the H:Reach cinematic where teen Carter volunteers to be augmented, so that's where I got the impression from.It was a promotional ad for the game though, so it could be non canon.He wasn't a volunteer.He looks like a consenting adult, not an orphan/kid.S-IIIs were around 5 or 6 when they were conscripted. Carter was 11.
Quote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:50:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:44:55 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:43:31 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:24:23 PMQuote from: Nuka on December 21, 2014, 12:19:36 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:15:36 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 12:09:59 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 21, 2014, 12:01:14 PMI thought the S-III's were volunteers who consented to be sent on important but suicidal missions, no? It's been a while since I looked into Halo lore though.No. S-IIIs were abducted as kids just like the S-IIs. The difference is that they weren't picked based upon their genetics.S-IIs were children with the best genes, whereas S-IIIs were just any kind of kid.Ah I see.They took orphans who had their families killed by the Covenant, if I remember correctly.It's just that I remember the H:Reach cinematic where teen Carter volunteers to be augmented, so that's where I got the impression from.It was a promotional ad for the game though, so it could be non canon.He wasn't a volunteer.He looks like a consenting adult, not an orphan/kid.S-IIIs were around 5 or 6 when they were conscripted. Carter was 11.YouTubefokin ell, did he hit puberty at 5?
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on December 21, 2014, 08:41:38 AMQuote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 06:59:09 AM>fictionWhat about it? How does Halo being fiction mean we can't have discussions about the things in the lore?You can, it just cracks me up
Quote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 06:59:09 AM>fictionWhat about it? How does Halo being fiction mean we can't have discussions about the things in the lore?
>fiction
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on December 21, 2014, 08:41:10 AMQuoteSpartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.How? The majority of the people you are using as Spartans for the Spartan 2 program become casualties from the augmentations. With the Spartan 3 program you're still using kids which takes them longer to train. With soldiers volunteering to be Spartans you have a near limitless amount of people and it takes them less longer to become Spartans than it would with kids. But those that do survive are the very best, and the selectivity is part of it-the concept of spartans was named after the real-life spartans, so in that sense the 2s are the closest to a true spartan
QuoteSpartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.How? The majority of the people you are using as Spartans for the Spartan 2 program become casualties from the augmentations. With the Spartan 3 program you're still using kids which takes them longer to train. With soldiers volunteering to be Spartans you have a near limitless amount of people and it takes them less longer to become Spartans than it would with kids.
Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on December 21, 2014, 01:16:50 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 09:11:40 AMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on December 21, 2014, 08:41:38 AMQuote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 06:59:09 AM>fictionWhat about it? How does Halo being fiction mean we can't have discussions about the things in the lore?You can, it just cracks me upSo how does talking about the lore that makes up the series you play crack you up?Just cracks me up how seriously you guys take it.
Quote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 09:11:40 AMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on December 21, 2014, 08:41:38 AMQuote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 06:59:09 AM>fictionWhat about it? How does Halo being fiction mean we can't have discussions about the things in the lore?You can, it just cracks me upSo how does talking about the lore that makes up the series you play crack you up?
The Spartan 2's just like the Tigers took to long to make and they didn't have much of an impact in the war.
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on December 21, 2014, 01:24:45 PM The Spartan 2's just like the Tigers took to long to make and they didn't have much of an impact in the war.lol
Sprint doesn't belong in Halo
Quote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 01:40:19 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 01:37:00 PMSprint doesn't belong in HaloI'm sorry Mr Objective Game Developer.It's alright, biased fanboy.
Quote from: challengerX on December 21, 2014, 01:37:00 PMSprint doesn't belong in HaloI'm sorry Mr Objective Game Developer.
Spartan IVs act like cocky college kids, I hate it. Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.
Why are you so offended?
You guys talk all seriously about all this stuff that doesn't even exist. It's funny.
And those are real things and gameplay elements to talk about.
Quote from: Septy on December 21, 2014, 06:54:56 AMSpartan IVs act like cocky college kids, I hate it. Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.It's almost shameful for them to be called Spartans.
it just cracks me up when people discuss it this seriously.
Stop being so butthurt.
Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 01:46:36 PMQuote from: Septy on December 21, 2014, 06:54:56 AMSpartan IVs act like cocky college kids, I hate it. Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.It's almost shameful for them to be called Spartans.How is it?
Quote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 01:57:44 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 01:46:36 PMQuote from: Septy on December 21, 2014, 06:54:56 AMSpartan IVs act like cocky college kids, I hate it. Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.It's almost shameful for them to be called Spartans.How is it?The way they conduct themselves. You don't see The Master Chief giving people high-fives and bragging over a victory.He is professional at all times.
Quote from: Sprungli on December 21, 2014, 12:14:18 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on December 21, 2014, 08:41:10 AMQuoteSpartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.How? The majority of the people you are using as Spartans for the Spartan 2 program become casualties from the augmentations. With the Spartan 3 program you're still using kids which takes them longer to train. With soldiers volunteering to be Spartans you have a near limitless amount of people and it takes them less longer to become Spartans than it would with kids. But those that do survive are the very best, and the selectivity is part of it-the concept of spartans was named after the real-life spartans, so in that sense the 2s are the closest to a true spartanThem being good still doesn't change that the program can be looked as a failure due to the causality rate and they weren't using soldiers which hinders the amount of people they have to become Spartans. The other thing is that they picked kids by genetics which greatly hinders it. The Spartan 2 program is like the Tiger tanks. The Tiger 1 was a good tank against other tanks but it was a failure due to the failure rate of them. So the Tiger 1 can be looked as the augmentations. Then there are the Tiger 2's which can be looked as Spartan 2's. Sure they were great in combat but the rate they produced them was far too slow and they didn't have much of an impact. The M4 Sherman and the T-34 which were mass produced had a greater impact in the war than the Tiger 1 and 2's due to the rate they are pumped out. The Spartan 2's just like the Tigers took to long to make and they didn't have much of an impact in the war. Sure there is the MC that did his shit but as a group they wouldn't be as successful as what a group with larger numbers would be.
Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 02:17:55 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 01:57:44 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 01:46:36 PMQuote from: Septy on December 21, 2014, 06:54:56 AMSpartan IVs act like cocky college kids, I hate it. Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.It's almost shameful for them to be called Spartans.How is it?The way they conduct themselves. You don't see The Master Chief giving people high-fives and bragging over a victory.He is professional at all times.So like how the Military is? Nothing wrong with that. They're professional on the battlefield and that's all that matters.Chief is an indoctrinated sociopath who's known nothing but fighting and following orders. He's never actually had a life.
Quote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 02:29:04 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 02:17:55 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 01:57:44 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 01:46:36 PMQuote from: Septy on December 21, 2014, 06:54:56 AMSpartan IVs act like cocky college kids, I hate it. Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.It's almost shameful for them to be called Spartans.How is it?The way they conduct themselves. You don't see The Master Chief giving people high-fives and bragging over a victory.He is professional at all times.So like how the Military is? Nothing wrong with that. They're professional on the battlefield and that's all that matters.Chief is an indoctrinated sociopath who's known nothing but fighting and following orders. He's never actually had a life.But why can't I have my Spartan be a professional instead of a fucking retard?343i is going after immersion after all, which is stupid seeing as they should be focusing on how to make gameplay fun and not how we can feel like Spartans.
Quote from: Septy on December 21, 2014, 03:51:31 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 02:29:04 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 02:17:55 PMQuote from: >Being a BongLemön on December 21, 2014, 01:57:44 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on December 21, 2014, 01:46:36 PMQuote from: Septy on December 21, 2014, 06:54:56 AMSpartan IVs act like cocky college kids, I hate it. Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs true Spartans.It's almost shameful for them to be called Spartans.How is it?The way they conduct themselves. You don't see The Master Chief giving people high-fives and bragging over a victory.He is professional at all times.So like how the Military is? Nothing wrong with that. They're professional on the battlefield and that's all that matters.Chief is an indoctrinated sociopath who's known nothing but fighting and following orders. He's never actually had a life.But why can't I have my Spartan be a professional instead of a fucking retard?343i is going after immersion after all, which is stupid seeing as they should be focusing on how to make gameplay fun and not how we can feel like Spartans.S-IV's are professionals. To say otherwise is dumb.Just because they're not emotionless bricks doesn't mean they're not professionals.
Is the Spartan 4 program the "true" spartan program?
