Is Esports a legitimate sport?

T6 · July 18, 2015, 12:10:44 AM

Stop biting people, Suarez

Also, you're not American?

Thun · July 18, 2015, 12:18:00 AM

Quote from: T6 on July 18, 2015, 12:10:44 AM

Also, you're not American?

I am.

So many feels were had when this happened. After been made to look like a villain, he ended the season a hero.

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Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:19:36 AM

Quote from: Jono on July 17, 2015, 11:45:16 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 17, 2015, 11:41:14 PM
The average age for a baseball fan at this point is in their 50's, and attendance is just below/on par with soccer attendances for MLS games.

It's fallen out of favor with our generation in favor of American football and soccer.
Average age is 50s? Lol nah, I see mostly young people in the stands and on sports pages talking about it.

"The baseball audience is old and getting older: "The average World Series viewer this year is 54.4 years old, according to Nielsen, the media research firm. The trend line is heading north: The average age was 49.9 in 2009"

http://awfulannouncing.com/2013/kids-aren-t-watching-baseball-but-why.html

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Attendance is only poor at Marlins, Rays, and Phillies games because those are the worst teams with the worst fanbases. Games will get around 30-40k in attendance at every other stadium. Dodger Stadium nearly sells out every game with around 50k people.

"League Baseball's regular season ended on Sunday and with it, paid attendance for the league (the number of tickets sold) came in at 73,739,622 with average attendance per game at 30,346"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2014/09/29/winners-and-losers-mlb-attendance-in-2014-nearly-74-million-through-the-gate/

I'll give you that one, though since there are so many games (192 or something), it feels like most, if not all really don't matter. Still, your point wins.

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Soccer is only important during the World Cup apparently and football is always gonna get the most attention no matter what.

True football in America will always get the most attention. That's the main sport and will be for a long time. But it doesn't only matter every 4 years, and a lot of Americans feel that way. There is a reason many European teams (primarily English ones) come over here for friendly matches. They see the investment in American fans, and we provide better EPL (English Premier League) coverage for matches every Saturday, than even England does for the most part.

As for the domestic league and the fans, well look.

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Really, I could go on. The fact that you think it matters every 4 years only shows your ignorance on the issue.

T6 · July 18, 2015, 12:21:27 AM

I think we could just agree that both Sports have their ups and downs and Esports Sucks, because its no Sport

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:22:01 AM

Quote from: Suarez on July 18, 2015, 12:07:14 AM

Quote from: Jono on July 17, 2015, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: T6 on July 17, 2015, 11:35:26 PM
Baseball is great though
This

Its America's Pastime so fuck soccer
>Americans
>don't like one sport because it's "boring"
>likes another sport that is ten times more boring

dafuq

The newer generation (our generation) feels the same way you do. It's what is fueling the sport over here. Those people who grew up in the 90's and late 80's, now old enough to have kids, are attending the games and bringing their kids to it as well.

I personally can't stand baseball because nothing is consistently happening. It's the same reason I'm finding American football more and more boring as well. Only 7 seconds of action and then commercial breaks. It's literally America in a nutshell with the horrible advertising. It's why I enjoy watching basketball more so now too. I like a sport where there isn't constant stopping and things can change in an instant.

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:23:09 AM

Sorry for the long video posting, but I am very passionate about it. Anyone who thinks American's don't enjoy the sport really are stupid and living in the 90's. There is more than enough evidence that Americans love the sport.

Verbatim · July 18, 2015, 12:23:46 AM

i must be ahead of my time, because i think all sports are boring

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:27:35 AM

truly you are so grossly incandescent

Thun · July 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2015, 12:22:01 AM

personally can't stand baseball because nothing is consistently happening. It's the same reason I'm finding American football more and more boring as well. Only 7 seconds of action and then commercial breaks. It's literally America in a nutshell with the horrible advertising. It's why I enjoy watching basketball more so now too. I like a sport where there isn't constant stopping and things can change in an instant.

It's like I'm standing in front t of a mirror.

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:29:18 AM

Quote from: Suarez on July 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2015, 12:22:01 AM
personally can't stand baseball because nothing is consistently happening. It's the same reason I'm finding American football more and more boring as well. Only 7 seconds of action and then commercial breaks. It's literally America in a nutshell with the horrible advertising. It's why I enjoy watching basketball more so now too. I like a sport where there isn't constant stopping and things can change in an instant.
It's like I'm standing in front t of a mirror.

I'm not sure what that means lol

All I know is that they had to speed up baseball because it was taking so long, American's on average are moving away from the sport, and other sports are rising. I blame that on the internet and how connected it has made us with the rest of the world.

T6 · July 18, 2015, 12:31:31 AM

Jesus nerds

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:32:01 AM

You're a brit who likes baseball

literally fucking weird

only japs, cubans, and americans care about it

T6 · July 18, 2015, 12:33:23 AM

I'm not British

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:33:51 AM

of course you're not

T6 · July 18, 2015, 12:35:14 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2015, 12:33:51 AM

of course you're not

I enjoy basketball more, Slam Jam

Thun · July 18, 2015, 12:43:31 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2015, 12:29:18 AM

I'm not sure what that means lol

I mean that's exactly what I think about all mentioned sports in your post, like exactly. Hell, I pay for a latino package of TV channels to save money and get muh La Liga without paying for all the usual American sports broadcasters. It's fuckin great.

And holy shit, we went way off topic.

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 12:46:39 AM

Quote from: Suarez on July 18, 2015, 12:43:31 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2015, 12:29:18 AM
I'm not sure what that means lol
I mean that's exactly what I think about all mentioned sports in your post, like exactly. Hell, I pay for a latino package of TV channels to save money and get muh La Liga without paying for all the usual American sports broadcasters. It's fuckin great.

And holy shit, we went way off topic.

Ohhh right. I don't follow La Liga because it's literally 2 teams and 18 fuck faces, so yeah.

But still, I want it again.

Thun · July 18, 2015, 12:58:58 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2015, 12:46:39 AM

Ohhh right. I don't follow La Liga because it's literally 2 teams and 18 fuck faces, so yeah.

2 teams?
2 TEAMS?!

You literally can't say that anymore with Atletico Madrid winning the title in 2014. They just sold a massive chunk of stock to some Chinese company as well, so they got that spending money. They beat Madrid 4 consecutive times this season including the 4-0 demolition in January.

Valencia for crying out loud won 1 and drew 1 against Madrid and were just bought out by a billionaire who is assuming all debt and resuming work on their new stadium. That was literally the only thing holding them back from becoming true contenders once again.

Fuckin Sevilla man, FUCKIN SEVILLA! Dat heart. 5 SPANISH CLUBS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.

O LE LE
O LA LA
SER DEL BARCA ES
EL MILLOR QUE HI HA

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · July 18, 2015, 02:35:40 AM

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Flee · July 18, 2015, 04:50:48 AM

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Mattie G Indahouse · July 18, 2015, 05:48:15 AM

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an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

>Physical exertion.
>Playing a game like Halo.
Pick one.

Mattie G Indahouse · July 18, 2015, 05:52:08 AM

Quote from: Azumarill on July 17, 2015, 09:52:19 PM

strictly speaking, yes, it is a sport. gamers are NOT athletes, and it is NOT an athletic competition, but it is indeed a sport, in the classical understanding of the word.

It's not a sport since there's nothing that involves "physical exertion". There's skill but there's nothing that involves physical activity so it's not going to fall under the term sport like what football does. It's an Esport but it's not the term sport without the "e" in front of it.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · July 18, 2015, 06:10:16 AM

Its a sport, but it doesn't make them athletes.

Pippen · July 18, 2015, 06:19:31 AM

Quote from: FatherlyNick on July 18, 2015, 06:10:16 AM

Its a sport, but it doesn't make them athletes.

I think they're allowed the athlete visa in the US....

Rinev · July 18, 2015, 08:58:03 AM

I see it as a sport the same way poker or chess is a sport.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · July 18, 2015, 09:03:09 AM

Quote from: Pip on July 18, 2015, 06:19:31 AM

Quote from: FatherlyNick on July 18, 2015, 06:10:16 AM
Its a sport, but it doesn't make them athletes.

I think they're allowed the althete visa in the US....

*sigh*

Flee · July 18, 2015, 09:40:48 AM

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Rinev · July 18, 2015, 09:45:42 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 18, 2015, 05:52:08 AM

It's not a sport since there's nothing that involves "physical exertion". There's skill but there's nothing that involves physical activity so it's not going to fall under the term sport like what football does.

They use some physical exertion in their hands. They type incredibly fast, which requires a bunch of training, and even risk injuries while playing.

Physical exertion is "the activity of exerting your muscles in various ways to keep fit", So you can argue that they need to build up muscles in their hands to play like they do. Now, I'm not saying that it's on the same level as 'regular' sports, but it can fit the definition of a sport.

Luciana · July 18, 2015, 10:51:58 AM

Quote from: Suarez on July 18, 2015, 12:58:58 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2015, 12:46:39 AM
Ohhh right. I don't follow La Liga because it's literally 2 teams and 18 fuck faces, so yeah.
2 teams?
2 TEAMS?!

You literally can't say that anymore with Atletico Madrid winning the title in 2014. They just sold a massive chunk of stock to some Chinese company as well, so they got that spending money. They beat Madrid 4 consecutive times this season including the 4-0 demolition in January.

Valencia for crying out loud won 1 and drew 1 against Madrid and were just bought out by a billionaire who is assuming all debt and resuming work on their new stadium. That was literally the only thing holding them back from becoming true contenders once again.

Fuckin Sevilla man, FUCKIN SEVILLA! Dat heart. 5 SPANISH CLUBS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.

O LE LE
O LA LA
SER DEL BARCA ES
EL MILLOR QUE HI HA

Yeah I guess but... come on. It's still massively tipped in their favor. Do you really see it being as competitive as the EPL or MLS anytime soon? Maybe in 5 years time, but not now.

We really need a soccer/football thread. It's fun to find someone as passionate about the sport as I am.