IMO on Halo 4.

CyberGama · February 19, 2015, 02:48:30 PM

Ok, this has to stop, people keep giving this game shit as mother fucking COD, people keep giving this game praise like it's god, IMO both of them have some points, but at the same time wrong. You want to know what my view of Halo 4 is? A massive disappointing game that's so mediocre, and yet it has a great story. 5/10, that's what this game gets, not a 4 or a 6, a mediocre 5/10 with a great story. Thats how i view Halo 4.

True Turquoise · February 19, 2015, 02:50:17 PM

I like Halo 4.

Septy · February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM

It has a mediocre story.

CyberGama · February 19, 2015, 02:52:32 PM

Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM

It has a mediocre story.

>Opinion

I view it as a great story, but if you feel like it has a mediocre story, that's fine.

CyberGama · February 19, 2015, 02:53:21 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 02:50:17 PM

I like Halo 4.

You like a mediocre game that has a good story?

The Waifu Master · February 19, 2015, 02:55:19 PM

Halo 4 had the easiest multiplayer in the series.
Despite the fact I was a mediocre player in previous titles, usually ending up in the upper half of scoreboards most matches, in H4 I almost always ended up at the top when I was Matching with randoms.

True Turquoise · February 19, 2015, 03:03:15 PM

Quote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 19, 2015, 02:53:21 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 02:50:17 PM
I like Halo 4.

You like a mediocre game that has a good story?

Halo is mediocre.

I still like it.

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM

I always pictured Halo 4 as the bastard child of Halo that got way too influenced by Call of Duty. By that I mean the Multiplayer. It was a mess and the community showed that since it had the biggest and quickest drop off of any Halo ever.

As for the story, well I honestly think making John actually a character who talks was a good thing, but the level designs themselves were horrible. John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.

True Turquoise · February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM

John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.

Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

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but the level designs themselves were horrible

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PSU · February 19, 2015, 03:49:16 PM

Halo 4 Multiplayer? 3/10 and thats being generous.

Incan · February 19, 2015, 03:49:21 PM

I think a lot of the game was just poorly thought out and just wasn't made very well. The multiplayer just felt bad, it was a hybrid that didn't work in anyway.

The story, although John felt well written, was filled with unlikeable characters and dumb plot points.

The levels themselves just weren't as enjoyable as other games, to the point where the library felt more interesting.

Finally, Spartan ops was a let down.

Naru · February 19, 2015, 04:15:51 PM

The campaign wasn't really memorable, the fucking Forerunner mission was so damn atrocious. Multiplayer was eh..

Coco · February 19, 2015, 04:34:43 PM

Campaign was pretty decent, but not fantastic, and I don't value the Halo games by their 3-4 hour linear campaigns. I personally don't think that justifies the $60 purchase.

A good multiplayer can keep me invested for hundreds to thousands of hours, and that was not Halo 4. I thought practically every aspect of Halo 4's multiplayer was a downgrade. Reach had a shitty competitive multiplayer, full of randomness, and hand-holding, but I still got my money out of it, because its Forge and custom games were phenomenal (albeit, pretty gray).

Halo 4 had incredibly limited options for custom games (no such thing as asymmetrical gametypes, most basic traits and features like alpha zombies had to be modded in, etc...). Plus (and Reach suffered from this too), the custom games community was practically dead, because the matchmaking community suffered such huge hits. The competitive multiplayer took 2 steps back for every mistake they fixed from Reach and previous titles, and brought hand-holding to a whole new level for the series.

343 has been shit at damage control, in the past, as well. I'm not directly talking about the times they've dropped the ball over things like DLC fiascoes, either. They thought appealing to the competitive community, when they were handling Reach and H4's playlists, meant making the 1 stigmatic "you're gonna get raped by tryhards" playlist, and calling it a day, even though they played nothing like the other 95% of the game, and basically told the average player to avoid it like the plague. I wonder if the playlist manager read the forums, made that one playlist, and thought "now they'll have nothing to bitch about."

Girl of Mystery · February 19, 2015, 06:15:38 PM

Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM

It has a mediocre story.

I bet you liked Halo 3's and Reach's stories

Septy · February 19, 2015, 06:17:56 PM

Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:15:38 PM

Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
It has a mediocre story.
I bet you liked Halo 3's and Reach's stories

3's wasn't great but it wasn't shit. Reach' seas pretty shit.

Girl of Mystery · February 19, 2015, 06:18:53 PM

Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 06:17:56 PM

Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
It has a mediocre story.
I bet you liked Halo 3's and Reach's stories
3's wasn't great but it wasn't shit. Reach' seas pretty shit.

3's was pretty bad.

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

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but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler

Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 06:25:32 PM

Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:18:53 PM

Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
It has a mediocre story.
I bet you liked Halo 3's and Reach's stories
3's wasn't great but it wasn't shit. Reach' seas pretty shit.
3's was pretty bad.

It was alright. Halo 4 easily had the best narrative of any of them. Reach's flaw was that Bungie didn't seem to realize that just because you show characters faces, it doesn't mean we'll suddenly care about them. Really the only development in that was Noble 6 and Jorge.

Girl of Mystery · February 19, 2015, 06:26:42 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:25:32 PM

Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
It has a mediocre story.
I bet you liked Halo 3's and Reach's stories
3's wasn't great but it wasn't shit. Reach' seas pretty shit.
3's was pretty bad.
It was alright. Halo 4 easily had the best narrative of any of them. Reach's flaw was that Bungie didn't seem to realize that just because you show characters faces, it doesn't mean we'll suddenly care about them. Really the only development in that was Noble 6 and Jorge.

Reach's flaw was that it shit on the canon.

True Turquoise · February 19, 2015, 06:29:17 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

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but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler
Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.

Spoiler

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 06:29:48 PM

Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:26:42 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
It has a mediocre story.
I bet you liked Halo 3's and Reach's stories
3's wasn't great but it wasn't shit. Reach' seas pretty shit.
3's was pretty bad.
It was alright. Halo 4 easily had the best narrative of any of them. Reach's flaw was that Bungie didn't seem to realize that just because you show characters faces, it doesn't mean we'll suddenly care about them. Really the only development in that was Noble 6 and Jorge.
Reach's flaw was that it shit on the canon.

Last I checked the only canon they switched up was John Halo being on the planet and Spartan 3's having MJOLNIR armor, though Noble team was the only one to get it.

Regardless of the canon cutting, it also didn't feel like a real invasion at all the entire game. The only time it felt like a war was that one cutscene that lasted 20 seconds with all the Warthogs, and all the ships warping to Reach after Jorge was kill.

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 06:30:11 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:29:17 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

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but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler
Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.
Spoiler

I hate you. Then again, I love Iri too much. I have a related picture. One sec.

True Turquoise · February 19, 2015, 06:31:05 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:30:11 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

Quote
but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler
Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.
Spoiler
I hate you. Then again, I love Iri too much. I have a related picture. One sec.

>.>

Girl of Mystery · February 19, 2015, 06:41:43 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:29:48 PM

Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Septy on February 19, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
It has a mediocre story.
I bet you liked Halo 3's and Reach's stories
3's wasn't great but it wasn't shit. Reach' seas pretty shit.
3's was pretty bad.
It was alright. Halo 4 easily had the best narrative of any of them. Reach's flaw was that Bungie didn't seem to realize that just because you show characters faces, it doesn't mean we'll suddenly care about them. Really the only development in that was Noble 6 and Jorge.
Reach's flaw was that it shit on the canon.
Last I checked the only canon they switched up was John Halo being on the planet and Spartan 3's having MJOLNIR armor, though Noble team was the only one to get it.

Regardless of the canon cutting, it also didn't feel like a real invasion at all the entire game. The only time it felt like a war was that one cutscene that lasted 20 seconds with all the Warthogs, and all the ships warping to Reach after Jorge was kill.

List of Reach's retcons

Cheat · February 19, 2015, 06:45:41 PM

I actually really enjoyed 4's Multiplayer. It was a lot less random and aggravating than Reach's was, and it had a wider range of customization options (and had better competitive play possibilities). I know a lot of people hated the loadouts, but those could be disabled in settings and, if you knew where to find it, you could download games without sprint being available.

My two gripes were the removal/boost of basic qualities (grenade pickup off of bodies, unlimited sprint, reload times, etc.) and the auto-pickup on objective items. Holy shit is it annoying to have a power weapon and accidentally run over the flag when you're trying to cover your team.

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 06:48:31 PM

Quote from: Lemön | The British Sod on February 19, 2015, 06:41:43 PM

List of Reach's retcons

Ah, thanks for that.

Yeah I can see why that upsets people who've read the books (I haven't) but come on, seeing the Pillar of Autumn take off with that music and literally seeing Halo 1 set off WAS kind of cool, right?

While the game wasn't perfect, I thought the ending was honestly pretty beautiful. A good way for Bungie saying goodbye.

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 06:51:11 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:31:05 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

Quote
but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler
Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.
Spoiler
I hate you. Then again, I love Iri too much. I have a related picture. One sec.
>.>

Spoiler

True Turquoise · February 19, 2015, 06:52:26 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:51:11 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

Quote
but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler
Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.
Spoiler
I hate you. Then again, I love Iri too much. I have a related picture. One sec.
>.>
Spoiler

Oh...

Oh

Luciana · February 19, 2015, 06:53:36 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:52:26 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

Quote
but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler
Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.
Spoiler
I hate you. Then again, I love Iri too much. I have a related picture. One sec.
>.>
Spoiler
Oh...

Oh

Well technically Saber doesn't know that's her daughter, but whatever. I think it could still remind her.

True Turquoise · February 19, 2015, 06:55:48 PM

Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:53:36 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: True Turquoise on February 19, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Luciana on February 19, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
John Halo is the master at pressing buttons to progress.
Shepard wins that title by far.

I only enjoy all the Halo games because I'm a huge fan boy lol

Quote
but the level designs themselves were horrible
Spoiler
Don't use her to voice your sadness. That's not fair.
Spoiler
I hate you. Then again, I love Iri too much. I have a related picture. One sec.
>.>
Spoiler
Oh...

Oh
Well technically Saber doesn't know that's her daughter, but whatever. I think it could still remind her.

lolwut

.....But she's the exact image of her.