I finally finished WindWaker HD

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · October 23, 2015, 06:26:07 PM

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Luciana · October 23, 2015, 06:29:13 PM

You saw it as bad? Really? He had enough time to become more than just some power hungry ass hell bent on power. He was wise, poised, and powerful.

If there was a bad iteration of Ganondorf, it was Twilight Princess because he had no exposure until the last 5% of the game. Aside from his design in TP, he was garbage.

Deesbee · October 23, 2015, 06:32:26 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 23, 2015, 06:29:13 PM

You saw it as bad? Really? He had enough time to become more than just some power hungry ass hell bent on power. He was wise, poised, and powerful.

If there was a bad iteration of Ganondorf, it was Twilight Princess because he had no exposure until the last 5% of the game. Aside from his design in TP, he was garbage.

Re-read the OP

Verbatim · October 23, 2015, 06:32:32 PM

Now you just need to finish/play Super Mario World, and you will have finished my three favorite games of all time.

Azure · October 23, 2015, 06:33:02 PM

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Verbatim · October 23, 2015, 06:33:59 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 23, 2015, 06:29:13 PM

You saw it as bad? Really? He had enough time to become more than just some power hungry ass hell bent on power. He was wise, poised, and powerful.

If there was a bad iteration of Ganondorf, it was Twilight Princess because he had no exposure until the last 5% of the game. Aside from his design in TP, he was garbage.

lol luci just went full fuckazoid

Epsira · October 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM

Quote from: Azure on October 23, 2015, 06:33:02 PM

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Do you read Shokugeki no Soma?

Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:32:32 PM

Now you just need to finish/play Super Mario World, and you will have finished my three favorite games of all time.

What's the other one besides that and Wind Waker?

Verbatim · October 23, 2015, 06:36:05 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
Now you just need to finish/play Super Mario World, and you will have finished my three favorite games of all time.
What's the other one besides that and Wind Waker?

Super Metroid. The holy trinity.

Yeah, all my favorite games are Nintendo. Fuck me, right?

Epsira · October 23, 2015, 06:38:17 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:36:05 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
Now you just need to finish/play Super Mario World, and you will have finished my three favorite games of all time.
What's the other one besides that and Wind Waker?
Super Metroid. The holy trinity.

Yeah, all my favorite games are Nintendo. Fuck me, right?

Don't worry Verb, you have this to look forward to

Azure · October 23, 2015, 06:38:24 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM

Quote from: Azure on October 23, 2015, 06:33:02 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Do you read Shokugeki no Soma?

Maybe

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · October 23, 2015, 06:39:06 PM

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GAMERG0D · October 23, 2015, 06:59:43 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:36:05 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
Now you just need to finish/play Super Mario World, and you will have finished my three favorite games of all time.
What's the other one besides that and Wind Waker?
Super Metroid. The holy trinity.

Yeah, all my favorite games are Nintendo. Fuck me, right?

Why SMW over SMB3?

Anyway OP you should play the other 3D games.

Epsira · October 23, 2015, 07:01:52 PM

Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 23, 2015, 06:59:43 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
Now you just need to finish/play Super Mario World, and you will have finished my three favorite games of all time.
What's the other one besides that and Wind Waker?
Super Metroid. The holy trinity.

Yeah, all my favorite games are Nintendo. Fuck me, right?
Why SMW over SMB3?

Anyway OP you should play the other 3D games.

I confess to being a Metroid Prime fan. I really enjoy that game. I recently went back to Prime 2 and enjoyed it, maybe even more then the first in some ways.
I haven't played Super Metroid though, unfortunately. But I've played Fusion...

GAMERG0D · October 23, 2015, 07:05:08 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 07:01:52 PM

Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 23, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
Now you just need to finish/play Super Mario World, and you will have finished my three favorite games of all time.
What's the other one besides that and Wind Waker?
Super Metroid. The holy trinity.

Yeah, all my favorite games are Nintendo. Fuck me, right?
Why SMW over SMB3?

Anyway OP you should play the other 3D games.
I confess to being a Metroid Prime fan. I really enjoy that game. I recently went back to Prime 2 and enjoyed it, maybe even more then the first in some ways.
I haven't played Super Metroid though, unfortunately. But I've played Fusion...

I enjoy the MP games too, but I have this thing in the back of my head that tells me that 2D games are superior so I can't decide between preferring MP or Super Metroid.

Super Metroid is a fantastic game though.

Prime 2 was more of a different game compared to Prime and Metroid design in general. You have these ammo types and these suits that protect you from this atmosphere. It feels like a different game.

GAMERG0D · October 23, 2015, 07:10:31 PM

I should talk about Zelda since that's what the OP is.

I haven't beaten WW I'll admit, I've been in every dungeon but the last one though.

I have an irrational fear of Seahats and water in games in general. I couldn't beat Metroid Prime until 3 years ago because I was scared of the aquatic creatures. In Fallout 3 and NV I still can't go near bodies of water because of Mirelurks and Lakelurks.

Anyway I prefer the other 3D Zeldas because of the easy difficulty and long sailing. And again with the Seahats.

OOT and MM are just masterpieces, if I said this about TP I'd be laughed at. I like TP the most, not because OW THE EDGE, because of the dungeons and the story in general. It's a more story heavy game (except if you count all the MM sidequests). I shouldn't really say story heavy at all because the story in Zelda games isn't exactly a huge feature. I like the items in TP, I liked being a wolf.

I enjoy SS too but it's really monotonous, the dungeon design is grand and the music is great too but it's so repetitive.

Big Boss · October 23, 2015, 07:12:37 PM

Wind Waker is the best. Love the music.

Epsira · October 23, 2015, 07:16:16 PM

Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 23, 2015, 07:05:08 PM

You have these ammo types and these suits that protect you from this atmosphere. It feels like a different game.

This is my one big criticism of the game. In a series defined by exploration, restricting that feels very counter-intuitive. For any game with open spaces and a lot to explore, that's counter-intuitive. Being restricted from those places by capability-based boundaries like in Prime I is okay because you still have a large area to explore and running into these obstacles incites player curiosity, rather than herding them through a breadcrumb trail of small safezones. Moreover, the ammo system is really easy to exploit, and thus feels more like an obligatory chore than a restriction encouraging new styles of play. It feels almost like a player punishment than challenge. In the context of the Metroid series trying to take such a basic weapons capability from Samus strikes many players as odd and uncomfortable (but in my opinion not bad itself). Taking away agency players expect invariably alters their perception of new mechanics.
I had a lot more to say about the ammo system in particular when I played the game, but nothing comes to mind right now. I actually have it at home on a friend's gamecube, so I might go back and illustrate my point more later.

Spartan · October 23, 2015, 07:16:51 PM

I don't like Zelda that much, but Wind Waker was a fantastic game.

nosejob · October 23, 2015, 07:17:00 PM

WW is my favorite Zelda. A lot of people hated the sailing but I actually loved it.

Epsira · October 23, 2015, 07:20:38 PM

Quote from: Mistanosejob on October 23, 2015, 07:17:00 PM

WW is my favorite Zelda. A lot of people hated the sailing but I actually loved it.

Some people have no taste for adventure.

WW was my favorite in the series before I played MM. I still really like WW, but MM resonates with me more personally.

nosejob · October 23, 2015, 07:22:55 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 07:20:38 PM

Quote from: Mistanosejob on October 23, 2015, 07:17:00 PM
WW is my favorite Zelda. A lot of people hated the sailing but I actually loved it.
Some people have no taste for adventure.

WW was my favorite in the series before I played MM. I still really like WW, but MM resonates with me more personally.

Haven't actually played MM, thinking of picking up 3d though.

GAMERG0D · October 23, 2015, 07:33:03 PM

Quote from: Mistanosejob on October 23, 2015, 07:22:55 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: Mistanosejob on October 23, 2015, 07:17:00 PM
WW is my favorite Zelda. A lot of people hated the sailing but I actually loved it.
Some people have no taste for adventure.

WW was my favorite in the series before I played MM. I still really like WW, but MM resonates with me more personally.
Haven't actually played MM, thinking of picking up 3d though.

Do eet

Big Boss · October 23, 2015, 07:38:12 PM

I really didn't like Majora's Mask. Couldn't even finish it.

Epsira · October 23, 2015, 07:42:26 PM

Quote from: Mistanosejob on October 23, 2015, 07:22:55 PM

Quote from: Epsira on October 23, 2015, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: Mistanosejob on October 23, 2015, 07:17:00 PM
WW is my favorite Zelda. A lot of people hated the sailing but I actually loved it.
Some people have no taste for adventure.

WW was my favorite in the series before I played MM. I still really like WW, but MM resonates with me more personally.
Haven't actually played MM, thinking of picking up 3d though.

As a Zelda title it's different in a lot of ways. There's still a central story, but there's more side-quests. There are still items, but there's a lot of masks which function to change gameplay and/or fulfill quest objectives. I like how the controls handle for all of the main masks, and it adds depth to gameplay more than other Zelda titles. A lot of people don't like the "3 days mechanic" but I think it adds a real sense of peril and incentive to both act upon and question the experience.
One of my favorite things about it is the role the player embraces through storytelling (the beginning being one of my favorite game beginnings of all time). Instead of being preordained as the legendary hero, the player becomes that through their actions and perseverance in an openly bleak and dire situation. The game has very mature tones for being a children's game, additionally.
I could write a long essay about why I like MM so much, but this illustrates a few things I really like about it.

Luciana · October 23, 2015, 08:23:27 PM

Quote from: Mr Whiteflame on October 23, 2015, 06:32:26 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 23, 2015, 06:29:13 PM
You saw it as bad? Really? He had enough time to become more than just some power hungry ass hell bent on power. He was wise, poised, and powerful.

If there was a bad iteration of Ganondorf, it was Twilight Princess because he had no exposure until the last 5% of the game. Aside from his design in TP, he was garbage.
Re-read the OP

Well time to kill myself

Zonda · October 24, 2015, 01:06:59 AM

>tfw $60 for a GameCube copy and $90 for WWHD on Wii-U in my region

Genghis Khan · October 24, 2015, 01:56:08 AM

My favorite game of all time was Ocarina of Time until I played Majora's Mask in 2000.

1. MM
2. ALttP
3. OoT

Epsira · October 24, 2015, 02:11:53 AM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on October 24, 2015, 01:56:08 AM

My favorite game of all time was Ocarina of Time until I played Majora's Mask in 2000.

1. MM
2. ALttP
3. OoT

A Link to the past was my first Zelda game. Those are wonderful memories.
But Majora's Mask still wins even though it's the most recent Zelda I've played. If I picked a top 3:

1. MM
2. WW
3. ALttP

Luciana · October 24, 2015, 02:40:54 AM

I'll be the one to say it.

I think Majora's Mask is vastly overrated, and while I beat it, I didn't nearly enjoy it as much as its predecessor.

Epsira · October 24, 2015, 02:42:56 AM

Quote from: Luciana on October 24, 2015, 02:40:54 AM

I'll be the one to say it.

I think Ocarina of Time is vastly overrated, and while I beat it, I didn't nearly enjoy it as much as its descendent.

My opinion is very much the opposite.