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I’ve been grinding Falco in Melee and I have to say his punish game is so free. I already think my day 3 Falco would get better results overall than my year 3 Sheik. You don’t get hard countered by DI/tech away and it just feels like the neutral game is always in your control. I still feel like death % against fox is 0 because all the 20XX pools foxes ever want is to cheese stocks as much as possible and not play the game, but it feels much more even than playing a waveshineable character.


 
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feeling like posting more predictions

So, I think I have an idea of how many characters will be in the final roster, and it's pretty much just based off of (possibly incorrect) assumptions of how the Smashdown mode will work. In order for the mode to make any sense mathematically, and assuming it's a 4-player only, the final number of playable characters has to be divisible by 4. Otherwise, the remainder of fighters will not enough for each player.

The official website recognizes 71 different characters, including Mii and Echo Fighters, and it treats Pokémon Trainer as one fighter. Based on these observations, we could be looking at a final roster total of 72, 76, 80, or perhaps even 84. Any more than that doesn't seem likely to me.

Then again, if we assume that 1v1 and 1v1v1 are possible in Smashdown, then the total would have to be divisible by 2, 3, and 4. That leaves us with only two (realistic) numbers—72 and 84.

So, the way I see it, if my stab-in-the-dark assumptions are correct, we're going to receive either 9 or 13 more character announcements before December 7th (or just one, I guess, but that would be super lame and I severely doubt Sakurai would do us like that).

I'm gonna bank on 84, personally. Oh, and if you're wondering if the process of unlocking characters will fuck with Smashdown, I also predict that the mode will only be available once all characters have been unlocked. This also means that there won't be DLC (but that's more wishful thinking on my part than anything else).

13 new characters is also very convenient, because I just so happen to have whittled down my predictions to precisely that number:

ABSOLUTE SHOO-INS
#1. Geno
#2. Shadow (Echo of Sonic)
#3. Skull Kid

WOULD PUT MONEY ON
#4. Banjo & Kazooie
#5. Ken (Echo of Ryu)
#6. Isabelle (Echo of Villager)

PRETTY GOOD CHANCE BUT MAYBE NOT
#7. Decidueye
#8. Dixie Kong (Echo of Diddy Kong)
#9. Rex

WILD CARDS, LOW ODDS, BUT I GET TO BRAG IF I'M RIGHT
#10. Spring Man
#11. Ribbon Girl (Echo of Spring Man)
#12. Isaac
#13. Marx

Trying to play it safe for the most part, nothing too crazy. Marx will be the hardest of reads, I don't actually expect him though.

Would not be surprised if Bandana Dee, Rayman, or some other Gen VII Pokémon turned up instead, but I'm not banking on it. These are the ones I'm locking in. I almost had Viridi and Sora as wild cards, but decided against it.
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hi
- skull kid
- geno
- banjo
- incineroar
- isaac

- shadow
- isabelle
- ken
- dixie
- black shadow

Chorus Kids: maybe


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So, I think I have an idea of how many characters will be in the final roster, and it's pretty much just based off of (possibly incorrect) assumptions of how the Smashdown mode will work. In order for the mode to make any sense mathematically, and assuming it's a 4-player only, the final number of playable characters has to be divisible by 4. Otherwise, the remainder of fighters will not enough for each player.
I've heard that it probably ends once there aren't enough fighters for the next match. The total would have to be a multiple of 2, 3 and 4 at the same time for it to work otherwise and that restricts potential DLC too.


 
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Decided Hilda as a Zelda Echo would be brilliant and extremely likely, but it's too late for me to lock her in now.

Someone brought up to me that Skull Kid (or just Majora) may be a boss, not a character, because the Moon being an Assist Trophy kind of takes away his one most obvious option for a Final Smash. Not sure how to feel about that.


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
If we get Shadow are we gonna get some damn cursing up in Smash or nah

Also what are the chances we get another Sonic stage like Chemical Plant Zone or Metropolis Zone
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So what are the chances that EVERY character gets an echo?
ehhhhhhhh

admittedly, you could probably give most of the cast an echo, but some would be rather tricky, like g&w and ICs


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So what are the chances that EVERY character gets an echo?

Not only will each fighter get an Echo, each Fire Emblem fighters echo will get it's own echo as well.


 
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Interesting observation posted on r/smashbros:

Within the past 72 days since E3, 33 characters have received blog posts on the official website. This means characters are posted about approximately every other day. If the rate at which characters are posted about remains constant, the entire known roster should be covered within the next 79 days—which leaves us at 27 until the game is out.

From this, we can extrapolate that there are indeed 13 more new characters left to announce—which is consistent with my guesswork posted above, where I surmised that there would be precisely 13 characters for a total of 84 in order for the Smashdown mode to make mathematical sense.
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So what are the chances that EVERY character gets an echo?
Very unlikely. We'll get quite a few, probably the same amount of echoes as newcomers. (4 - 5 each) but I wouldn't count on more than that.


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Real talk, if pre-patch Diddy and Sheik come back in Smash 4.5 I’ll never complain about Bayonetta or the overwhelming number of FE characters ever again


 
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whatever amiibos you have can be used to unlock characters right away, so that's neat

i picked up an isabelle amiibo a few months ago because it was like $2 at some thrift store, and i don't intend on wasting money on any more, so hopefully she'll be playable so i can use that


 
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Aren’t amiibos DLC?
this was months before i initiated my embargo

if i were a figure person, i wouldn't be opposed to buying them for collecting purposes though
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Aren’t amiibos DLC?
this was months before i initiated my embargo

if i were a figure person, i wouldn't be opposed to buying them for collecting purposes though
You would rather be a creepy figure collector dude than someone who buys DLC? 😂
i'd rather make hot glue videos with them than buy DLC


 
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dude fuck plup, jesus christ


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dude fuck plup, jesus christ
did he choke or beat somebody you like


 
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dude fuck plup, jesus christ
did he choke or beat somebody you like
i just don't like the guy—which is sad, because he used to be one of my favorites (mostly because he plays samus)

but there's a pengboys video of him playing against shiz (they were both streaming), and he's just the most insufferable person to listen to—not that this is the only video of him being a cunt or anything, this has been building up for a while

i think he and leffen have the worst attitude a top 5 player could have about the game, because it's not a good look for the community as a whole—the constant whining and salt from both players whenever they lose (especially to hungrybox) is just so cringe and embarrassing to watch
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so, there was gonna be a direct for the 6th, but an earthquake has caused them to delay it to the 9th


 
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so, there was gonna be a direct for the 6th, but an earthquake has caused them to delay it to the 9th
never mind, a date hasn't been confirmed

someone linked the UK nintendo twitter to me when i got the news, and i read "7/9/18" which i assumed meant "september 9th" because my brain just glazed over the "7" i guess

sorry, i'm just fucking retarded—in my defense it was 3 AM
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If the direct is another FE character reveal, I’ll straight up wash my hands of this game before it even comes out.


 
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If the direct is another FE character reveal, I’ll straight up wash my hands of this game before it even comes out.
Hard read: Skull Kid + Incineroar + Isabelle (echo)
or
Isaac + Incineroar + Isabelle (echo) + Matthew or Felix (Golden Sun echo)

The only other FE rep that's likely is Black Knight. There will not be another FE Unique.


 
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it won't be a big character IMO

new animal crossing game + isabelle echo announced alongside it is my guess

it could also very well be isaac, since he has earth-based moves (according to some golden sun fans i know), which would explain why they'd choose to delay the direct
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There’s actually a fair bit of discussion about Isabelle on Smash Twitter, but they actually think Goku is likely so I’m taking that with a grain of salt.

Not gonna lie if they put a new Zelda character in I don’t personally see Skull Kid being the first one they go to (or Midna/Wolf Link rip), maybe a secondary villain from one of the later games (I.e: Zant), or even that fat dude that destroys the bridge of eldin