Super Smash Brothers

Elai · December 28, 2015, 09:09:48 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2015, 09:08:07 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 09:06:43 PM
So does everyone here use a GameCube controller too?
i try to, but i had to use the gamepad when we played

Why?

I actually like using the gamepad, the only problem I have is the shield/grab thing. But apparently that can be changed.

Verbatim · December 28, 2015, 09:10:42 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 09:09:48 PM

Why?

I actually like using the gamepad, the only problem I have is the shield/grab thing. But apparently that can be changed.

so i could play without having to go downstairs

TB · December 28, 2015, 09:11:11 PM

Gamecube controller the best

Verbatim · December 28, 2015, 09:14:50 PM

never liked it tbh

there has to be some design that hasn't been invented yet that would be optimal for playing this game

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 09:15:48 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 09:06:43 PM

So does everyone here use a GameCube controller too?

Wii U Pro controller

>.>

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 09:16:42 PM

I have to reach further on the game pad so I do certain things just a bit slower than I could do, and in Smash that matters. Not a method I like to play.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 09:18:57 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 28, 2015, 09:15:48 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 09:06:43 PM
So does everyone here use a GameCube controller too?
Wii U Pro controller

>.>

How do you like it? Do you think it's better than the Gamecube controller?

Verbatim · December 28, 2015, 09:20:32 PM

I think it's actually tournament illegal to use anything else other than the GameCube controller. Not sure. CK can confirm that.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 09:24:04 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2015, 09:20:32 PM

I think it's actually tournament illegal to use anything else other than the GameCube controller. Not sure. CK can confirm that.

What? Why?

Quote from: CK97 on December 28, 2015, 06:08:16 PM

Care to weigh in?

Verbatim · December 28, 2015, 09:25:04 PM

Just what I heard. I can't think of a good reason.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 09:26:21 PM

When you say "tournament illegal", you mean at actual physical tournament locations, right? Not online tournaments that SSB4 provides?

Verbatim · December 28, 2015, 09:27:34 PM

Yeah, physical tournaments.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 09:30:32 PM

I don't see myself ever going to those, so that's okay.

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 09:42:03 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2015, 09:20:32 PM

I think it's actually tournament illegal to use anything else other than the GameCube controller. Not sure. CK can confirm that.

Pretty sure Pro controllers are the only alternative actually.

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 09:43:15 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 09:18:57 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 28, 2015, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 09:06:43 PM
So does everyone here use a GameCube controller too?
Wii U Pro controller

>.>

How do you like it? Do you think it's better than the Gamecube controller?

Havent played Smash 4 with a gamecube controller. I expected to try and play Melee's speed if I was using one so I just stuck with the controller I had. If I get another job soon I'll get the adapter and buy one finally.

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 09:44:44 PM

Here are the rules for Smash 4 at Evo

http://evo.shoryuken.com/additional-rules/

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Nintendo 3DS, 2DS, or WiiU gamepad are not allowed. Pro Controller as well as GameCube controllers are allowed for Smash Bros. for WiiU.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 09:53:07 PM

From what I'm hearing, the Pro controller isn't half bad.

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 10:01:16 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 09:53:07 PM

From what I'm hearing, the Pro controller isn't half bad.

It's the gamepad's button layout, but way easier to reach.

I won't say it's better than the gamecube controller though since I haven't used it on Sm4sh.
But it's clearly the more popular choice than the Pro controller.

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 10:53:09 PM

Prehistoric if you want to watch some gameplay of some pretty great Fox players, here ya go.
CK you might know a few more so feel free to add to them.

Megafox

YouTube

Shofu

YouTube

a nice little guide off Smashboards detailing moves, combos, etc.

CK97 · December 28, 2015, 11:21:07 PM

Yeah, wireless controllers (Gamepad, 3DS, Wiimote) tend to be banned at tourneys, the ones in my city included. Pro controller is allowed, however.

In terms of Fox players to watch, the two best ones out there right now are Larry Lurr and Megafox. Megafox actually happens to be in my city and we're good friends, we're heading to Shockwave together this summer. Me and him played some online friendlies tonight so if you wanna see some replays of us playing, I can send them (albeit our play was somewhat sloppy due to it being online >_>).

Here's some quick guides about competitive Smash:

The Neutral

YouTube

Zoning

YouTube

Reads

YouTube

Edgeguarding

YouTube

Elai · December 28, 2015, 11:26:54 PM

Quote from: CK97 on December 28, 2015, 11:21:07 PM

Pro controller is allowed, however.

What's the general concensus on their quality? Are they a viable option, or is the GC controller still recommended?

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Me and him played some online friendlies tonight so if you wanna see some replays of us playing, I can send them (albeit our play was somewhat sloppy due to it being online >_>).

I'll watch them if you send them to me.

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Here's some in-depth guides about competitive Smash:
The Neutral
YouTube
Zoning
YouTube
Reads
YouTube
Edgeguarding
YouTube

Shit, I got some watching to do. Thanks man.

CK97 · December 28, 2015, 11:31:05 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 11:26:54 PM

What's the general concensus on their wuality? Are they a viable option, or is the GC controller still recommended?

I use the Gamecube controller so I honestly cannot answer that question accurately

CK97 · December 28, 2015, 11:38:07 PM

Basically the highlight of Megafox's Smash 4 career right here:

YouTube

Dabuz is top 3 in the world.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 11:44:55 PM

I love it when you guys find stuff for me to watch.

Anyways, Rocket, I tried out the Y button for jumping -- holy hell. Once I get used to it, it's going to change my game completely.

Right now I have X to grab and Y to jump with joystick jumping and vibration turned off.

CK97 · December 28, 2015, 11:50:35 PM

What region are you in? There could be some weekly tournaments in your area.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 11:52:28 PM

Quote from: CK97 on December 28, 2015, 11:50:35 PM

What region are you in? There could be some weekly tournaments in your area.

I live in Toronto. Though I hardly think I'm tournament ready.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 11:54:24 PM

Like right now, I just wanna get good at Smash so I can compete with you guys and my friends (though you guys are waaaay better than my IRL amigos).

It all depends on how much I improve over the next couple of months.

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 11:55:49 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 11:44:55 PM

Anyways, Rocket, I tried out the Y button for jumping -- holy hell. Once I get used to it, it's going to change my game completely.

Until I finally did that, I'd consistently do a double jump when I didn't want to and miss so many opportunities.

R o c k e t · December 28, 2015, 11:57:00 PM

Quote from: Falco on December 28, 2015, 11:54:24 PM

Like right now, I just wanna get good at Smash so I can compete with you guys and my friends (though you guys are waaaay better than my IRL amigos).

It all depends on how much I improve over the next couple of months.

I don't play with people on Smash regularly so I'm always up for it.

Elai · December 28, 2015, 11:59:13 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 28, 2015, 11:57:00 PM

I don't play with people on Smash regularly so I'm always up for it.

Sick, dude. I don't have much of a life so I reckon I'll be playing this quite a bit. Especially considering there's so many characters I still haven't played as.

Just wish there was a way for us to communicate during matches for maximum improvement.