Understandable.

I'd argue that it would be better to but a system and get each game as you complete the previous, just because playing it through an emulator just isn't the same experience as playing the real deal.

Get a DS lite and play Hoenn

I'd argue that it would be better to but a system and get each game as you complete the previous, just because playing it through an emulator just isn't the same experience as playing the real deal.

But I don't got no moneys

Quote from: Prime Headphase on August 14, 2015, 06:50:20 AM

I'd argue that it would be better to but a system and get each game as you complete the previous, just because playing it through an emulator just isn't the same experience as playing the real deal.

But I don't got no moneys

Gameboy off of Ebay/craigslist. How many hours would you expect to put in per day?

Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.

YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?

Quote from: Incan on August 14, 2015, 11:13:57 AM

Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.

YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?

Yeah a little hard to hear, but what he does on screen should be enough I think.

What are the Yellow/Emerald/Platinum games? Are they some big updated rerelease with all the monsters from the other two, or just add-ons?

What are the Yellow/Emerald/Platinum games? Are they some big updated rerelease with all the monsters from the other two, or just add-ons?

The former. Except they still have some missing monsters. They're advertised as big updates, but they're basically just cash-grabs.

Quote from: Revolver Snake on August 13, 2015, 03:23:02 PM

Your definition of what's fun and what isn't is not law.

Explain to me in detail how cheating makes the game more fun, then.

You're gonna fucking fail so fucking hard.

Meanwhile, allow me to explain precisely why playing the game properly is infinitely more fun and rewarding than cheating could be, because you're apparently too fucked in the head to figure it out yourself.

Developers spend many months carefully crafting these games. Every little thing in the game was created by somebody, and it's all meant to be observed and enjoyed. If I'm walking myself into a new area, I'm going to absorb each and every little bit of it that I can, not only to immerse myself in the game's world and narrative, but to appreciate all of the subtle nuance that the developer's put into the game at the game's pace.

No one likes to grind--but it's all part of the game. Taking away grinding by speeding through the entire game is taking away all that nuance, all the experience, and all the immersion. What used to be a long, arduous, yet rewarding journey is now a ten minute victory given to you on a silver platter, with no real work, effort, or passion involved.

All these precious moments I have from my childhood of searching for hours in tall grass in search of ONE rare Pokémon--sure, I hated searching for that long, but if I could just expedite the whole process, it would have lost ALL its value. The value would have been destroyed completely.

If you don't see the value in subtlety, or nuance, or patience, or adversity, or "the journey", but you DO see value in ruining all that? Just for a quick victory? Then you're just too stupid. And I'm a destination type person.

Quote from: Revolver Snake on August 13, 2015, 03:42:02 PM

Simply saying "Cheating is wrong because cheating=wrong" is what I meant about non-critical thinking.

Well, it's a good thing I never actually did that, then. Lying shithead.

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That's not how I meant it.

"I say things that I don't mean."

How intelligent.

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Except you can't run out of that game. It's endless.

Games can be broken or lost or sold or given away. If you want another copy, you should buy it again. Piracy just makes you a thieving cunt.

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"Only my opinion matters because I'm a boy scout who doesn't want to break the rules." - Verbatim

I could say that I enjoy seeing piss on the Mona Lisa. I don't, but regardless of what you think, my opinion is just as valid as yours.

Bullshit. Opinions are nothing but SHIT. You have to BACK THEM UP.

And you've failed to do even do that.

If you CAN'T back it up, or if you back it up POORLY, then your opinion is as good as wrong.

Why do you care about how others play their games?

Entertainment is completely subjective; some may prefer Pokemon with cheats, does that mean that there's something wrong with them? No, that's just how they want to play.

Cheating may be more fun for them, not everyone has the same tastes. Some might not want a challenge, they may prefer to be unstoppable in Pokemon because they find that more fun.

Just because you don't enjoy cheating/think it's wrong, doesn't mean others share the same opinion. They can play Pokemon however they want, it's not affecting you.

Your analogy of cheating being like taking a piss on the Mona Lisa is completely different in this case.
People who cheat at single player Pokemon aren't ruining the game of another person, they're simply 'pissing on their own painting'.


On the topic of emulation, I personally think it's alright if you already own the game and are emulating it to enhance your experience.

Quote from: Pichuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu on August 14, 2015, 02:48:02 PM

Why do you care about how others play their games?

Because some ways are better than others, objectively.

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Entertainment is completely subjective; some may prefer Pokemon with cheats, does that mean that there's something wrong with them?

Yes.

The rest of your post is just you repeating yourself in three or four different ways, so fuck it.

What you have to do is demonstrate how cheating isn't an objectively bad way to play.
You're going to fail.

Well I need to know what your definition of "a bad way to play" is.
I've thought of cheating as a way to add extra enjoyment to my games (i.e. access cut content, test how the cheats interact with the game, just see what playing the game without limitations feels like).

I don't see how it's wrong to find this fun.

I really don't know if you think any of this is okay. If you don't, then I guess I failed.

There isn't a 3DS emulator yet IIRC.

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Quote from: Revolver Snake on August 13, 2015, 11:53:39 AM

Or you can emulate anything pre-DS and just buy yourself a 3DS.

Emulate anything that came out before Diamond and Pearl (FireRed/LeafGreen/Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald).

What is an emulator and what does it do?

It's a downloadable program for your PC that allows you to emulate a game's ROM for free.

It's stealing.
As in, illegal.
As in, bad.

Don't do it if you have any self-respect.

It's not illegal to play a ROM of a game you own, IIRC. That's the reason that site for ROM downloads wasn't immediately nuked.

Yeah pretty much, since you can theoretically make your own ROM without much of an issue playing a ROM of a game you already own is fine.

I used to play pokemon emulators when I'd lost the cartridges, I could have easily downloaded the ROMs for the most recent 3DS games at the time too, but I don't think that's right (nor is it legal) given that I didn't own them myself. Now that I do, I could but I'd rather play them on the 3DS anyway <.<

But yeah, emulators aren't inherently wrong at all.
If you are using them to avoid paying for content, then yeah that's obviously bad.

Unfortunately, due to Nintendo policy, it's still a big fat no no.

From Nintendo's corporate information page:
So no, it is still very much illegal to own and use Nintendo ROMs. Emulators themselves are a grey area, and you won't get in trouble for having them. But ROMs are clearly labeled within copyrighted domain.

Nothing unfortunate about it, actually.

the only thing that's unfortunate is that people who emulate games don't immediately explode and die afterwards

Shit happens. Gameboy dies one day, can't play pokemans until you get another one. Or, you're out in your day and didn't want to lug around extra equipment or didn't feel like planning out which video games you'd want to spontaneously play.

Make no mistake, emulating is no replacement for the real thing. It's "acceptable" use.