I'm thinking about getting into the pokemon games. Where should I start?

 
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- obtain the console
- unbox the console
- set up the console (power supply + TV connection)
- obtain the game
- unbox the game
- insert the game
- set the TV to the right channel / settings
- press power button
- play
i get what you're trying to say, but

some of these shouldn't count as steps, because they're intuitively obvious to anyone

you'd be hard-pressed to find an individual who doesn't know the basic functions of a TV, or what you're supposed to do with an unopened box <_<

it's not about the number of steps
or the complexity of the steps

it's about questioning the necessity of the steps

"should i have to do this?"
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no
"why is this necessary?"
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it isn't
"would i be better off doing it another way?"
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yes

this is all ignoring the fact that piracy makes you a reprehensible fuck, of course
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Its necessary if you want to play the game?


 
 
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Its necessary if you want to play the game?
which is bullshit
it shouldn't be necessary

that's my argument, dumbass
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- do I have to spend a fair amount of money on an outdated system and game that I might not even like? No.
- do I have to spend time searching the internet for a good deal on one and then wait days or weeks for it to be delivered? No.
- why is all of this necessary? It isn't.
- Would I be better off not spending the time and money and instead rather just take 10 minutes to download it and get the extra emulator options? Perhaps.
you misunderstand the point

i'm not asking "do i have to"
i'm asking "should i have to"--big difference

should you have to spend money on a game and its console?
ethically speaking, in our capitalist system, that's what we have to do, yes

should you have to download anything to play it on PC?
no--there is no logical/ergonomic reason that you should need anything but the ROM

once you weigh the "should you"s, playing the real deal will always round out to be the superior option
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Like I said, I'm not interested in debating the ethics of emulators or downloading ROM's.
that's what it boils down to

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There is, though. A ROM is just the file format that holds the game's code. It's desgned to only work on and be read by the designated Nintendo system. You need something else, an emulator, to emulate that system / console and run the ROM on it.
i realize this

but you're forgetting winrar--why is winrar necessary

ignoring for the moment that an emulator should just come packed with each ROM, unless you specify otherwise


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ignoring for the moment that an emulator should just come packed with each ROM, unless you specify otherwise
Wait, are you saying that an emulator should come prepackaged with every ROM?


 
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ignoring for the moment that an emulator should just come packed with each ROM, unless you specify otherwise
Wait, are you saying that an emulator should come prepackaged with every ROM?
i'm saying when you download a ROM, there should be an option on the downloading wizard (unchecked by default) that, when checked, will allow you download the required emulator as well, just in case you need it

maybe that's already a thing--i wouldn't know

it's just to expedite the process just a little bit--and make it more intuitive for the technologically disinclined
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ignoring for the moment that an emulator should just come packed with each ROM, unless you specify otherwise
Wait, are you saying that an emulator should come prepackaged with every ROM?
i'm saying when you download a ROM, there should be an option on the downloading wizard (unchecked by default) that, when checked, will allow you download the required emulator as well, just in case you need it

maybe that's already a thing--i wouldn't know
That assumes there's only one emulator out there. There are dozens, depending on the system it's emulating. Also different emulators that work on different architectures. You can't play a Windows emulator on a Mac, a Mac emulator on an iPhone, etc.


 
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i mean, what do i care if it's harder for thieves to be thieves?

i'm just saying, if you're gonna bullshit about emulation being "simple", at least admit that it could be a LOT simpler

That assumes there's only one emulator out there. There are dozens, depending on the system it's emulating. Also different emulators that work on different architectures. You can't play a Windows emulator on a Mac, a Mac emulator on an iPhone, etc.
i said "the required emulator" for a reason

all those caveats would be brought attention to on the wizard

have a checkbox for windows users
have a checkbox for mac users

if it's still a question of which emulator they should use, i'm not sure why that would really matter--just... pick one
or, have an entire list of available emulators (the most popular, maybe) and check the one you want
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I like hugs and making the world a better place. That and guns. Lots and lots of guns.
am i being tricked right now

is this serious or not i can't tell
you still haven't explained how you shouldn't be able to just double click on an icon to immediately play the game

why do you have to download five thousand fucking programs, and why is that better than playing on the original, real device

yes, anything more than A SINGLE BUTTON PRESS is an overcomplication--it shouldn't take any extra downloads at all

the fact that you can't understand this is pathetic
you download 3 things, one is commonly used (win rar)

the emulator and then games ISO, the emulator and win rar are easy to install

Then after that games are just download and mounting an ISO

On top of this, with a powerful enough system you can make a game run better, and in a lot of cases actually enhance the graphics

It's all super, super simple to use.
Keep in mind that I am 48. I grew up with other things. I have no idea what I'm doing. It opens up in zip and I click it and it says that Windows can't open the file. How do I launch it anyway? Maybe I'm starting it wrong.


 
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and if you're an iphone user, it should just say "fuck you"

emulating games on a phone is a whole new branch of scum
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I like hugs and making the world a better place. That and guns. Lots and lots of guns.
and if you're an iphone user, it should just say "fuck you"

emulating games on a phone is a whole new branch of scum
IPhones are a disease


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and if you're an iphone user, it should just say "fuck you"

emulating games on a phone is a whole new branch of scum
But emulating is the only way I can play Shin Megami Tensei in a civilized tongue.


 
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and if you're an iphone user, it should just say "fuck you"

emulating games on a phone is a whole new branch of scum
But emulating is the only way I can play Shin Megami Tensei in a civilized tongue.
you don't gotta use your phone, though!

unless you do, for some reason
i don't see why you would, though
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and if you're an iphone user, it should just say "fuck you"

emulating games on a phone is a whole new branch of scum
But emulating is the only way I can play Shin Megami Tensei in a civilized tongue.
you don't gotta use your phone, though!
But I don't want to be the nerd that carries a PSP everywhere. Also, it had an actual iPhone release too, so it's not like I'm committing Nintendocide.

BTW Android > iPhone
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But I don't want to be the nerd that carries a PSP everywhere.
::)

i mean, i carry my 3DS to places sometimes, and i've had people say "is that a DS? cool!" as they passed by
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Also, it had an actual iPhone too, so it's not like I'm committing Nintendocide.
what do you mean

edit:
never mind, i know what you're saying now
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and by the way, i was saying you don't have to use your phone or your psp--if you're gonna emulate it at all, why couldn't you just download it on PC like a normal thief

i just HATE the idea of jailbreaking phones like HELL, especially for the purpose of doing illegal shit
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and by the way, i was saying you don't have to use your phone or your psp--if you're gonna emulate it at all, why couldn't you just download it on PC like a normal thief

i just HATE the idea of jailbreaking phones like HELL, especially for the purpose of doing illegal shit
Because I don't like emulating on PC, controls never feel right. At least on touchscreen/a handheld it doesn't feel completely wrong.


 
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fuck you
I mean the HTC One is good for games


 
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Because I don't like emulating on PC, controls never feel right. At least on touchscreen/a handheld it doesn't feel completely wrong.
gamepads?...

i can't honestly envision it being less awkward on a touch screen, considering the PSP doesn't use one
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I mean the HTC One is good for games
no... phones are just not for games, at all--that's the bottom line

if they were, you wouldn't need to illegally jailbreak them
which is deplorable as fuck, by the way
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shut the fuck up you fuckin asshole bitch nigga bitch faggot cunt bitch dick licker


 
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apparently it's legal to jailbreak in the US, though, even though it fucking goddamn well shouldn't be

fucking cunts
i hate people so much


 
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fuck you
I mean the HTC One is good for games
no... phones are just not for games, at all--that's the bottom line

if they were, you wouldn't need to illegally jailbreak them
which is deplorable as fuck, by the way
but.. but i like my SIF game....


 
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wait wait wait

"On October 28, 2012, the US Copyright Office updated their exemption policies. The jailbreaking of smartphones continues to be legal "where circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of [lawfully obtained software] applications with computer programs on the telephone handset."

>lawfully obtained software

sorry, cunts
piracy isn't lawful


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>this thread is about pokemon


 
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no, it isn't--at all

it's about a guy who wants to play pokemon, but lacks the funds to do it, so he's gonna steal it at the behest of a proud thief

sorry for not being okay with that
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Because I don't like emulating on PC, controls never feel right. At least on touchscreen/a handheld it doesn't feel completely wrong.
gamepads?...

i can't honestly envision it being less awkward on a touch screen, considering the PSP doesn't use one
SMT is a Famicom game, I emulate it on PSP. It's also turn-based, so it works alright with a touchscreen.

And then I have to go to the process of setting up the gamepad to use different buttons if I want to go that route, and it's just not worth it.