I'm thinking about getting into the pokemon games. Where should I start?

 
 
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<.<
Or you can emulate anything pre-DS and just buy yourself a 3DS.

Emulate anything that came out before Diamond and Pearl (FireRed/LeafGreen/Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald).
What is an emulator and what does it do?
It's a downloadable program for your PC that allows you to emulate a game's ROM for free.

It's stealing.
As in, illegal.
As in, bad.

Don't do it if you have any self-respect.
It's not illegal to play a ROM of a game you own, IIRC. That's the reason that site for ROM downloads wasn't immediately nuked.
Yeah pretty much, since you can theoretically make your own ROM without much of an issue playing a ROM of a game you already own is fine.

I used to play pokemon emulators when I'd lost the cartridges, I could have easily downloaded the ROMs for the most recent 3DS games at the time too, but I don't think that's right (nor is it legal) given that I didn't own them myself. Now that I do, I could but I'd rather play them on the 3DS anyway <.<

But yeah, emulators aren't inherently wrong at all.
If you are using them to avoid paying for content, then yeah that's obviously bad.
Unfortunately, due to Nintendo policy, it's still a big fat no no.

From Nintendo's corporate information page:
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There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.
So no, it is still very much illegal to own and use Nintendo ROMs. Emulators themselves are a grey area, and you won't get in trouble for having them. But ROMs are clearly labeled within copyrighted domain.
Ahh, must have had it the other way around then.


 
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Hmm...
Or you can emulate anything pre-DS and just buy yourself a 3DS.

Emulate anything that came out before Diamond and Pearl (FireRed/LeafGreen/Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald).
What is an emulator and what does it do?
It's a downloadable program for your PC that allows you to emulate a game's ROM for free.

It's stealing.
As in, illegal.
As in, bad.

Don't do it if you have any self-respect.
It's not illegal to play a ROM of a game you own, IIRC. That's the reason that site for ROM downloads wasn't immediately nuked.
Yeah pretty much, since you can theoretically make your own ROM without much of an issue playing a ROM of a game you already own is fine.

I used to play pokemon emulators when I'd lost the cartridges, I could have easily downloaded the ROMs for the most recent 3DS games at the time too, but I don't think that's right (nor is it legal) given that I didn't own them myself. Now that I do, I could but I'd rather play them on the 3DS anyway <.<

But yeah, emulators aren't inherently wrong at all.
If you are using them to avoid paying for content, then yeah that's obviously bad.
Unfortunately, due to Nintendo policy, it's still a big fat no no.

From Nintendo's corporate information page:
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There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.
So no, it is still very much illegal to own and use Nintendo ROMs. Emulators themselves are a grey area, and you won't get in trouble for having them. But ROMs are clearly labeled within copyrighted domain.
Riiiiight. Ok. Well that's kind of lame, then.

If you own the games and have a cartridge-to-PC cable, though, you're allowed to rip them as long as you don't have to get around a DRM (if I'm reading everything correctly).


 
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yeah but how fucking desperate would you have to be to do that

i remember when gaming was literally just

- press the power button
- play

fuck this generation


 
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Hmm...
yeah but how fucking desperate would you have to be to do that

i remember when gaming was literally just

- press the power button
- play

fuck this generation
Hacks. Modded games. I've played several of them that were patched versions of Fire Red and they were crazy awesome. A lot of them offer increased difficulty, which makes the campaign an actual challenge; most of them include a different region and sometimes new Pokemon.


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Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.
YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?
Yeah a little hard to hear, but what he does on screen should be enough I think.
Ok. Got it. Now how do I get the games?
Site called Emu paridise, search Pokemon red, click the search result called Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent) ROM

Then you want to look down the quick navigation and hit Download links and then click Download Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent)

Enter and hit verify for the capcha and the download should start
It says windows can't find the right program to open it. What did I do wrong?
Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 08:22:55 PM by Chakas


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Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.
YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?
Yeah a little hard to hear, but what he does on screen should be enough I think.
Ok. Got it. Now how do I get the games?
Site called Emu paridise, search Pokemon red, click the search result called Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent) ROM

Then you want to look down the quick navigation and hit Download links and then click Download Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent)

Enter and hit verify for the capcha and the download should start
It says windows can't find the right program to open it. What did I do wrong?
What, the zip or the ISO?


 
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ugh

he probably needs fucking winrar or some shit

this is another reason why you shouldn't bother pirating--it's so fucking needlessly complicated


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I like hugs and making the world a better place. That and guns. Lots and lots of guns.
Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.
YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?
Yeah a little hard to hear, but what he does on screen should be enough I think.
Ok. Got it. Now how do I get the games?
Site called Emu paridise, search Pokemon red, click the search result called Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent) ROM

Then you want to look down the quick navigation and hit Download links and then click Download Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent)

Enter and hit verify for the capcha and the download should start
It says windows can't find the right program to open it. What did I do wrong?
What, the zip or the ISO?
zip


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Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.
YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?
Yeah a little hard to hear, but what he does on screen should be enough I think.
Ok. Got it. Now how do I get the games?
Site called Emu paridise, search Pokemon red, click the search result called Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent) ROM

Then you want to look down the quick navigation and hit Download links and then click Download Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent)

Enter and hit verify for the capcha and the download should start
It says windows can't find the right program to open it. What did I do wrong?
What, the zip or the ISO?
zip
get winrar


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ugh

he probably needs fucking winrar or some shit

this is another reason why you shouldn't bother pirating--it's so fucking needlessly complicated
yes

getting software for a commonly used file type is complicated


 
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ugh

he probably needs fucking winrar or some shit

this is another reason why you shouldn't bother pirating--it's so fucking needlessly complicated
yes

getting software for a commonly used file type is complicated
it is when the alternative is:

1. have game
2. press the power button
3. play game

fucking idiot

you shouldn't have to download any wacky fucking software just to play a simple game


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ugh

he probably needs fucking winrar or some shit

this is another reason why you shouldn't bother pirating--it's so fucking needlessly complicated
yes

getting software for a commonly used file type is complicated
it is when the alternative is:

1. have game
2. press the power button
3. play game

fucking idiot

you shouldn't have to download any wacky fucking software just to play a simple game
yes

wacky software

that a huge amount of site use to pack files

yes

that huge wacky software


 
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yes

wacky software

that a huge amount of site use to pack files

yes

that huge wacky software
wow, that was coherent

explain to me how
1. flip power switch
2. play game

is less complicated than downloading bullshit software

how is that less complicated


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ugh

he probably needs fucking winrar or some shit

this is another reason why you shouldn't bother pirating--it's so fucking needlessly complicated
yes

getting software for a commonly used file type is complicated
it is when the alternative is:

1. have game
2. press the power button
3. play game

fucking idiot

you shouldn't have to download any wacky fucking software just to play a simple game
yes

wacky software

that a huge amount of site use to pack files

yes

that huge wacky software
Thats probably why he can't wrap his head around mods.


 
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Thats probably why he can't wrap his head around mods.
yeah that's totally it


 
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you know what i use to "pack files"

my fucking harddrive.

i don't need "winrar"

incan is an idiot


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you know what i use to "pack files"

my fucking harddrive.

i don't need "winrar"

incan is an idiot
am i being tricked right now

is this serious or not i can't tell


 
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am i being tricked right now

is this serious or not i can't tell
you still haven't explained how you shouldn't be able to just double click on an icon to immediately play the game

why do you have to download five thousand fucking programs, and why is that better than playing on the original, real device

yes, anything more than A SINGLE BUTTON PRESS is an overcomplication--it shouldn't take any extra downloads at all

the fact that you can't understand this is pathetic


 
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actually no, you're absolutely correct

everything should have you download a few extra programs first in order to work

that's how things should be--what the fuck is a default!?

incan for president 2016
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am i being tricked right now

is this serious or not i can't tell
you still haven't explained how you shouldn't be able to just double click on an icon to immediately play the game

why do you have to download five thousand fucking programs, and why is that better than playing on the original, real device

yes, anything more than A SINGLE BUTTON PRESS is an overcomplication--it shouldn't take any extra downloads at all

the fact that you can't understand this is pathetic
you download 3 things, one is commonly used (win rar)

the emulator and then games ISO, the emulator and win rar are easy to install

Then after that games are just download and mounting an ISO

On top of this, with a powerful enough system you can make a game run better, and in a lot of cases actually enhance the graphics

It's all super, super simple to use.


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Let's get back on topic though, this is about helping someone get into Pokemon rather then a talk about emulation.


 
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you download 3 things, one is commonly used (win rar)
too much

pressing one button > downloading three programs
fuck that shit
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It's all super, super simple to use.
it's not a matter of how simple it is to USE, shithead

should you have to do it at all

no
no you shouldn't
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I like hugs and making the world a better place. That and guns. Lots and lots of guns.
Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.
YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?
Yeah a little hard to hear, but what he does on screen should be enough I think.
Ok. Got it. Now how do I get the games?
Site called Emu paridise, search Pokemon red, click the search result called Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent) ROM

Then you want to look down the quick navigation and hit Download links and then click Download Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent)

Enter and hit verify for the capcha and the download should start
It says windows can't find the right program to open it. What did I do wrong?
What, the zip or the ISO?
zip
get winrar
I already have it


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Here you go Chakas, a tutorial.
YouTube

Is it just me or is his voice hardly audible?
Yeah a little hard to hear, but what he does on screen should be enough I think.
Ok. Got it. Now how do I get the games?
Site called Emu paridise, search Pokemon red, click the search result called Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent) ROM

Then you want to look down the quick navigation and hit Download links and then click Download Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Independent)

Enter and hit verify for the capcha and the download should start
It says windows can't find the right program to open it. What did I do wrong?
What, the zip or the ISO?
zip
get winrar
I already have it
Should be able to extract it then right? And then load the ISO with the program.


 
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Jesus fuck. All I'm getting from this is that Verb wants life to be a perfect cake walk where his every want is delivered instantly.


 
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I already have it
that's what you use to open it with

you can't just click on the file--you have to tell it to open it with winrar, and then you gotta sift through a bunch of shit to find the emulator

it's very unintuitve

Jesus fuck. All I'm getting from this is that Verb wants life to be a perfect cake walk where his every want is delivered instantly.
are you saying you wouldn't want that?
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I already have it
that's what you use to open it with

you can't just click on the file--you have to tell it to open it with winrar, and then you gotta sift through a bunch of shit to find the emulator

it's very unintuitve

Jesus fuck. All I'm getting from this is that Verb wants life to be a perfect cake walk where his every want is delivered instantly.
are you saying you wouldn't want that?
Do I want it? Sure. Of course I do.
Do I realistically think it could happen or actively wish everyday for it to be that way?
Not really, no. It isn't physically possible so I choose not to waste time hoping for it.


 
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except this is a case where it is possible

i have a game--i put it in the machine, and i flip the switch
now i'm playing the game

no extra downloads
no sifting through files
just... playing the game

that's how it should be


 
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except this is a case where it is possible

i have a game--i put it in the machine, and i flip the switch
now i'm playing the game

no extra downloads
no sifting through files
just... playing the game

that's how it should be
Sure. But the game I want to play can't be done in that fashion sometimes. It either just isn't available to me or can only be done in a certain way that isn't done in your fantasy world of ease.


 
 
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