Okay, I'm not actually "done" (but I still hate the fuck out of Bayonetta)

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How is Bayonetta any more disgustingly disproportionate than Zero Suit Samus, R. Mika or Quiet?

Because none of them look like they ran afoul of Procrustes.


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How so? Is it also intuitive that a man wouldn't play a game that exploits his gender? I'm not following your train of thought on this one
Well, yeah. I wouldn't watch a movie like Magic Mike XXL because I think Channing Tatum is a disgusting sex symbol who is used as a puppet to exploit the male gender.

When it comes to male exploitation, it's easier to use films as an example rather than games. If Magic Mike had a game, I wouldn't play it, because I consider Magic Mike to be a little bit misandric.

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I probably don't count but, one of my favourite games ever is The Witcher 3 (Coincidentally an RPG), and there's definitely a lot in that game that you'd consider misogynistic. But it fits in the universe of the world and the characters display more than just sex appeal. It's also a world full of some pretty grim stuff, I'd find it more weird if that kind of stuff wasn't included. It makes sense for the game to have it, and I'm not going to scream misogyny, the game does it well. I just have a different view on sexuality, which is basically what this is boiling down to.
I won't deny that there's games out there that can play with sexuality in a way that isn't offensive, but I've just seen it happen so very little. To use another film example, I don't know if you've seen Requiem for a Dream, but towards the end, there's a very gruesome sex scene. It's not titillating at all--it's supposed to be sad and almost terrifying. And I wouldn't consider that misogynistic--and it was a necessary part of the story.

So that sort of thing is possible, but it's just very difficult.
I guess where you draw the line is just a lot further than where I draw it. Like I agree with the message you're trying to say here, but I disagree with you on what constitutes "offensive sexuality". I haven't played Bayonetta so I can't comment on that, but a few of the other things you've mentioned in this thread I wouldn't consider offensive.


 
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Because none of them look like they ran afoul of Procrustes.

I have no idea what that is, but you're wrong that there's a difference.







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Because none of them look like they ran afoul of Procrustes.

I have no idea what that is,

I didn't think anyone would. You should catch up on your Greek mythology.


 
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I didn't think anyone would. You should catch up on your Greek mythology.

I've got all the time in the world when I begin studying theology.


 
 
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'she's a plant guise'

has to be the weakest excuse for fanservice I have ever heard in my life


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How is Bayonetta any more disgustingly disproportionate than Zero Suit Samus, R. Mika or Quiet?

Don't know who r mika is. Quiet isnt even disproportionate. She looks like a normal human, although she's pretty well endowed and like naked for no good reason.

Bayonetta is like just weird as fuck looking. Like her legs are longer than any real humans and her hips are like twice as wide as the rest of her and shit

I also never said any of those characters are good examples of sexy and strong. Imo the new tomb raider and Sam from gears of war are good examples
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As long as the sexuality is handled tastefully, it's passable. Bayonetta's is not. Samus is not.
Depends what games in the Metroid series tbh, primarily other m though
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Don't know who r mika is.



Any Street Fighter female will do.

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Bayonetta is like just weird as fuck looking. Like her legs are longer than any real humans and her hips are like twice as wide as the rest of her and shit.

No worse than Samus.

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I also never said any of those characters are good examples of sexy and strong.

Yeah, and I never insinuated that you did.

But "you people" keep telling me "it's not a problem", when clearly it is.


 
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Depends what games in the Metroid series tbh, primarily other m though

I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure this is her most canon and iconic appearance:



 
 
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actually as someone who hasn't ever played a metroid game it's the robot that I genuinely thought was a dude that comes to mind when someone says metroid tbh

My nintendo fan friend got really pissed when we were playing smash yeaaaars ago because i kept messing up what a character was


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But why so mad about a character thats existed for years?

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But why so mad about a character thats existed for years?

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Because it took the position of a potentially useful and interesting character in one of his favourite game series.


 
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not to mention he was hyping this the fuck up


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But why so mad about a character thats existed for years?

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Because it took the position of a potentially useful and interesting character in one of his favourite game series.
But he's going on about feminism and so on....where hes just a bit flustered that something didnt go the way he wanted it to, theyre not all that related.


Thats life for you.


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not to mention he was hyping this the fuck up
He should, of all people, know better.

Hell I even find it quite ironic  really. Its great.


 
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But he's going on about feminism and so on...

Because he believes he is right in his dislike for the character and everyone else is wrong, and he's trying to convince other people of his beliefs while everyone else does the same to him.


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TBH im surprised he's not more mad about Corrin. He fucking hates FE: Fates


 
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TBH im surprised he's not more mad about Corrin. He fucking hates FE: Fates
He was a garbage choice, too. Six FE characters? Are you fucking for real?
FE has more representation than Zelda now.

But yeah no, Bayonetta broke the camel's back.

However, I've tried out Cloud, and he's actually pretty fun. So there's that.


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Don't know who r mika is.



Any Street Fighter female will do.

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Bayonetta is like just weird as fuck looking. Like her legs are longer than any real humans and her hips are like twice as wide as the rest of her and shit.

No worse than Samus.

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I also never said any of those characters are good examples of sexy and strong.

Yeah, and I never insinuated that you did.

But "you people" keep telling me "it's not a problem", when clearly it is.
this is one of the few controversial things I agree with verb and I guess you about (although no where near as extreme)
I have no problem with sex or sexy characters but fan service tier shit like bayonetta and quiet bothers me. Not really Because of some great exploitation of women and rape-culture but just that it's pathetic and degrading and paints the industry in a bad light.


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Depends what games in the Metroid series tbh, primarily other m though

I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure this is her most canon and iconic appearance:


In any game after Metroid Prime 3 it's definitely an issue


 
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Like, okay, I saw Corrin's footage, and he looks fun, but again--6 FE characters?...


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Depends what games in the Metroid series tbh, primarily other m though

I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure this is her most canon and iconic appearance:


most people who don't play metroid would have no idea that was samus. I certainly didn't until she was in smash without the suit. Hell my girlfriend thought samus was a boy until recently


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Now that I think about it, Darth Vader would've been perfect for that game. Super Force Tornado Final Smash anyone?


 
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most people who don't play metroid would have no idea that was samus. I certainly didn't until she was in smash without the suit. Hell my girlfriend thought samus was a boy until recently

That's what I like about Samus. She was genderless until the end, and then you realised, "Hey, I just enjoyed a game where I played as a girl. And she wasn't helpless, she was a badass."

But then you also realised that she was basically wearing nothing, and when you die, your suit "falls off". It makes me question why they'd do something like that.

So what's the point of a skin-tight, high-heel wearing curvaceous Zero Suit Samus if she's such a badass when you strip (not intentional) her of these things?



 
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Now that I think about it, Darth Vader would've been perfect for that game. Super Force Tornado Final Smash anyone?

I wouldn't mind Vader or Yoda being in Smash.


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most people who don't play metroid would have no idea that was samus. I certainly didn't until she was in smash without the suit. Hell my girlfriend thought samus was a boy until recently

That's what I like about Samus. She was genderless until the end, and then you realised, "Hey, I just enjoyed a game where I played as a girl. And she wasn't helpless, she was a badass."

But then you also realised that she was basically wearing nothing, and when you die, your suit "falls off". It makes me question why they'd do something like that.

So what's the point of a skin-tight, high-heel wearing curvaceous Zero Suit Samus if she's such a badass when you strip (not intentional) her of these things?
Supposedly the Zero Suit...suit works as an undersuit for the armor, like the black undersuit that the SPARTANs use in Halo. But yeah, the way it was designed doesn't seem to be utilitarian or really practical compared to other under armors.


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Now that I think about it, Darth Vader would've been perfect for that game. Super Force Tornado Final Smash anyone?

I wouldn't mind Vader or Yoda being in Smash.
They would've been fun to play as to be honest, and the Force allows for a wide array of abilities to use.


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Depends what games in the Metroid series tbh, primarily other m though

I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure this is her most canon and iconic appearance:


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her most canon and iconic appearance:
fucking kek really


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TBH im surprised he's not more mad about Corrin. He fucking hates FE: Fates
He was a garbage choice, too. Six FE characters? Are you fucking for real?
FE has more representation than Zelda now.

But yeah no, Bayonetta broke the camel's back.

However, I've tried out Cloud, and he's actually pretty fun. So there's that.

I mean I honestly dont blame you at all about hating Bayonetta TBH
I dont agree, and I think she looks like a relay fun character to use, but hey....
also I kinda saw it coming from a mile away.

As for Corrin, I have no Idea why the hell Sukerai is so Obsessed with Weeb Emblem. Don't be surprised when Smash NX rolls around and the entire Roster has been replaced by Fire Emblem characters and includes a touch your little sister mini-game.

I would have liked to see someone like Snake or even Big Boss...Hell I bet Microsoft giving nintedo free shit all of the sudden was to try to coax them to put Chief in Smash Bros...and we still have jack shit for representation for Metroid. Samus is so fucking bad she might as well not even be in the game....and how is it they were able to pull of Rosalina and Luma but the Ice Climbers were some kind of technical impossibility?

And if this was about "Promoting New Games" where the fuck is YoKai Watch (Oh god please don't ever actually do that) or Xenoblade Chronicles X? Why is there no Galactic Federation Mii outfit?

But at the end of the day i'm probably going to main him because of the whole dragon transformation thing



Anyway, wanna spar in Smash Bros? are you on Wii U or 3DS?