Quote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:53:44 PMyeah but what if making more money is a negative then you're communist
yeah but what if making more money is a negative
Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:53:59 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:53:44 PMyeah but what if making more money is a negative then you're communistwhich is a positive
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:54:04 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:52:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objectiveand as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steamthat makes no sense, verbcross platform is something that exists for almost everything
Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:52:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objectiveand as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steam
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objective
this is a negative
Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:54:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:54:04 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:52:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objectiveand as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steamthat makes no sense, verbcross platform is something that exists for almost everythingso i can purchase and play zelda on my PC, legally and morally
we're obviously talking about multiplatform games here if we're comparing the amount of money the publishers/devs make on a console sale vs a pc sale. console exclusives don't play into this conversation at all.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:56:25 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:54:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:54:04 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:52:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objectiveand as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steamthat makes no sense, verbcross platform is something that exists for almost everythingso i can purchase and play zelda on my PC, legally and morallythat's a console exclusiveyou didn't answer my question, and LC says the same thingcross platform is what we're on about
Quote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:53:44 PMyeah but what if making more money is a negative in our current society it takes money to make art. so if you want more art to be produced you have to support the people who are actually making it. not the people who are looking to double or triple dip for pure profit on the same piece of art while the actual artist makes very little by comparison.
Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:57:16 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:56:25 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:54:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:54:04 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:52:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objectiveand as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steamthat makes no sense, verbcross platform is something that exists for almost everythingso i can purchase and play zelda on my PC, legally and morallythat's a console exclusiveyou didn't answer my question, and LC says the same thingcross platform is what we're on aboutwell, i'm not
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:55:28 PMwe're obviously talking about multiplatform games here if we're comparing the amount of money the publishers/devs make on a console sale vs a pc sale. console exclusives don't play into this conversation at all.because they invalidate your entire position
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:57:50 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:55:28 PMwe're obviously talking about multiplatform games here if we're comparing the amount of money the publishers/devs make on a console sale vs a pc sale. console exclusives don't play into this conversation at all.because they invalidate your entire positionas i said, they're not part of the conversation at all. if you're going to do a comparison of how much money is made per copy of a game between console and pc you're going to have to use a title that's on both. otherwise i could throw out a claim like devs make more money from the xbox than they do on the ps4 per copy because halo is on the xbox and not the ps4.
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 08:06:13 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:57:50 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:55:28 PMwe're obviously talking about multiplatform games here if we're comparing the amount of money the publishers/devs make on a console sale vs a pc sale. console exclusives don't play into this conversation at all.because they invalidate your entire positionas i said, they're not part of the conversation at all. if you're going to do a comparison of how much money is made per copy of a game between console and pc you're going to have to use a title that's on both. otherwise i could throw out a claim like devs make more money from the xbox than they do on the ps4 per copy because halo is on the xbox and not the ps4.if you want to purchase a lesser-quality version of a game in order to support the developers more, then that's your prerogative and i respect thatpersonally, i need more of a reason to sacrifice my enjoyment of a game to give extra support to those who made it
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 08:08:56 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 08:06:13 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:57:50 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:55:28 PMwe're obviously talking about multiplatform games here if we're comparing the amount of money the publishers/devs make on a console sale vs a pc sale. console exclusives don't play into this conversation at all.because they invalidate your entire positionas i said, they're not part of the conversation at all. if you're going to do a comparison of how much money is made per copy of a game between console and pc you're going to have to use a title that's on both. otherwise i could throw out a claim like devs make more money from the xbox than they do on the ps4 per copy because halo is on the xbox and not the ps4.if you want to purchase a lesser-quality version of a game in order to support the developers more, then that's your prerogative and i respect thatpersonally, i need more of a reason to sacrifice my enjoyment of a game to give extra support to those who made itok
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 08:09:19 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 08:08:56 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 08:06:13 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:57:50 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:55:28 PMwe're obviously talking about multiplatform games here if we're comparing the amount of money the publishers/devs make on a console sale vs a pc sale. console exclusives don't play into this conversation at all.because they invalidate your entire positionas i said, they're not part of the conversation at all. if you're going to do a comparison of how much money is made per copy of a game between console and pc you're going to have to use a title that's on both. otherwise i could throw out a claim like devs make more money from the xbox than they do on the ps4 per copy because halo is on the xbox and not the ps4.if you want to purchase a lesser-quality version of a game in order to support the developers more, then that's your prerogative and i respect thatpersonally, i need more of a reason to sacrifice my enjoyment of a game to give extra support to those who made itoktoo bad that's all bullshit and that's not why you play games on PC at all
Quote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:48:11 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:36:05 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...use thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/its the canadian versionif it's under 500 i'll be okayget as close as you canthanks hunwtf literal slave driver https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6pg7hThis will do what you want, but not at 500, this is the best it could get and still actually work low price makes it harder to make things actually work.so you're telling me it's impossible to get something equivalent in power to a console for the same pricecuz my ps4 was 450 CAD bucks and it can run pubgi appreciate your effort here but i guess this is just a testament to the true versatility of pc gaming
Quote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:36:05 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...use thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/its the canadian versionif it's under 500 i'll be okayget as close as you canthanks hunwtf literal slave driver https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6pg7hThis will do what you want, but not at 500, this is the best it could get and still actually work low price makes it harder to make things actually work.
Quote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:36:05 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...use thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/its the canadian versionif it's under 500 i'll be okayget as close as you canthanks hun
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...
if you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truth
Quote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:50:49 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:48:11 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:36:05 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...use thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/its the canadian versionif it's under 500 i'll be okayget as close as you canthanks hunwtf literal slave driver https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6pg7hThis will do what you want, but not at 500, this is the best it could get and still actually work low price makes it harder to make things actually work.so you're telling me it's impossible to get something equivalent in power to a console for the same pricecuz my ps4 was 450 CAD bucks and it can run pubgi appreciate your effort here but i guess this is just a testament to the true versatility of pc gaming450 cad is like 360 usd, dude. Your money is shit but it's not 50 cents to a dollar shit.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 18, 2017, 08:27:34 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:50:49 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:48:11 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:36:05 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...use thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/its the canadian versionif it's under 500 i'll be okayget as close as you canthanks hunwtf literal slave driver https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6pg7hThis will do what you want, but not at 500, this is the best it could get and still actually work low price makes it harder to make things actually work.so you're telling me it's impossible to get something equivalent in power to a console for the same pricecuz my ps4 was 450 CAD bucks and it can run pubgi appreciate your effort here but i guess this is just a testament to the true versatility of pc gaming450 cad is like 360 usd, dude. Your money is shit but it's not 50 cents to a dollar shit.i know i'm rounding up bro
Quote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 08:35:20 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 18, 2017, 08:27:34 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:50:49 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:48:11 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:36:05 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...use thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/its the canadian versionif it's under 500 i'll be okayget as close as you canthanks hunwtf literal slave driver https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6pg7hThis will do what you want, but not at 500, this is the best it could get and still actually work low price makes it harder to make things actually work.so you're telling me it's impossible to get something equivalent in power to a console for the same pricecuz my ps4 was 450 CAD bucks and it can run pubgi appreciate your effort here but i guess this is just a testament to the true versatility of pc gaming450 cad is like 360 usd, dude. Your money is shit but it's not 50 cents to a dollar shit.i know i'm rounding up broDon't you mean down?I mean, even 400 cad is like 310ish usd
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 18, 2017, 08:39:27 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 08:35:20 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 18, 2017, 08:27:34 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:50:49 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:48:11 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on July 18, 2017, 06:36:05 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 06:28:34 PMif you look, that's about $200 more than what he askedjust say "it's really difficult/impossible to build a working PC for that cheap" if that's the honest truthI'll do it, its impossible for him to get a PC that can play PUBG at min specs with that price, the GPU alone is 269.99 USD...use thishttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/its the canadian versionif it's under 500 i'll be okayget as close as you canthanks hunwtf literal slave driver https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6pg7hThis will do what you want, but not at 500, this is the best it could get and still actually work low price makes it harder to make things actually work.so you're telling me it's impossible to get something equivalent in power to a console for the same pricecuz my ps4 was 450 CAD bucks and it can run pubgi appreciate your effort here but i guess this is just a testament to the true versatility of pc gaming450 cad is like 360 usd, dude. Your money is shit but it's not 50 cents to a dollar shit.i know i'm rounding up broDon't you mean down?I mean, even 400 cad is like 310ish usd idk all i know is that i looked up "400 dollar pc rig" and on the canadian partpicker it comes to 668
That being said though, a PC is a pretty big purchase. It's something you'll use a lot and presumably not just for playing a handful of games. The difference in quality of parts (noise levels, power consumption, built quality, durability), performance (loading times, FPS, lag, speed of games and everyday tasks) and lifespan (how long you'll continue to be able to run "recent" software) is pretty huge between a $250 PC you salvaged together and a $500 one. It is of course your choice, but because a PC is never just a small purchase and you'll probably want something that'll last you quite a bit, you might want to consider saving up a bit more and go for a better computer altogether.
Quote from: Flee on July 19, 2017, 05:53:59 AMThat being said though, a PC is a pretty big purchase. It's something you'll use a lot and presumably not just for playing a handful of games. The difference in quality of parts (noise levels, power consumption, built quality, durability), performance (loading times, FPS, lag, speed of games and everyday tasks) and lifespan (how long you'll continue to be able to run "recent" software) is pretty huge between a $250 PC you salvaged together and a $500 one. It is of course your choice, but because a PC is never just a small purchase and you'll probably want something that'll last you quite a bit, you might want to consider saving up a bit more and go for a better computer altogether.If you are going PC - you might as well go for the absolute MAX'd out specs. Why would you build one that is just on par with a console? You will be forced to upgrade if you want to play more recent games.You will struggle to even get a "PC master race"-tier PC for 500. For 200 you can maybe some 32-bit motherboard with an integrate GfX card and the power supply is a phone charger with a 12 Amp fuse. Build a case from a cereal box (endless customisation options there) and you probably don't have enough money left for a keyboard mouse and monitor so you have to steal them from your school. Pirate Windows XP, and use your smartphone as a HDD.After all that, you get home, plug in your beast, wait for the 512k RAM to boot up your BIOS, GRUB your pirated WinXP, load up YT and tell everyone in the comments that you are a member of an elite club.
It's impossible to build an affordable PC. - Update: Ordered, part list in OP.
